So, just to add something to the earlier idea: if it's a little space station - then perhaps we need to find a way to send a docking request
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In fact this is my bet, hyperspacing with a UA and 12 cores on board causes the player to jump to a new (thargoid) location.
I love the tiny space-station theory (even if it is a tiny bit implausible).
Wasn't there something like that in a Douglas Adams book - about a species sending a massive battle fleet out to obliterate their enemies, but due to a freak scaling accident they arrived really really tiny and ended up being eaten by a dog or something like that..
These might end up being the least scary aliens, ever.
Wasn't there something like that in a Douglas Adams book - about a species sending a massive battle fleet out to obliterate their enemies, but due to a freak scaling accident they arrived really really tiny and ended up being eaten by a dog or something like that..
These might end up being the least scary aliens, ever.
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So potentially a theory is that.
The UA has 12 <unknown items> attached, perhaps SAP 8s.
The UA is faulty, it's <unknown items> are leaking toxic matter and (assuming they're SAP 8s), perhaps also leaking the crystalline matter mentioned in the SAP8 description : http://elite-dangerous.wikia.com/wiki/Sap_8_Core_Container
This is why the UA (despite seeming to be a space going entity) degrades and explodes. This is also why it damages any ship carrying it.
Replacing the offending damaged items may cause the UA to become functional and to whatever it is it's designed to do.
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I believe Ratking has 12 cores and a UA and has been hyperspacing about.
The UA has 12 <unknown items> attached, perhaps SAP 8s.
The UA is faulty, it's <unknown items> are leaking toxic matter and (assuming they're SAP 8s), perhaps also leaking the crystalline matter mentioned in the SAP8 description : http://elite-dangerous.wikia.com/wiki/Sap_8_Core_Container
This is why the UA (despite seeming to be a space going entity) degrades and explodes. This is also why it damages any ship carrying it.
Replacing the offending damaged items may cause the UA to become functional and to whatever it is it's designed to do.
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I believe Ratking has 12 cores and a UA and has been hyperspacing about.
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Another theory(that is propaply not new). Its about these markings on the side of the UA. There are two different sets of markings:
The thing they remember me to is the Mayan number system.
More about it here:
http://gwydir.demon.co.uk/jo/numbers/maya/
A decoder for this numbers can be found here:
http://www.dcode.fr/maya-numbers
But the numbers i get out are quite strange and some parts of the markings are also open to interpretation(the middle part of the left one, especially).
Not sure if this leads somewhere, but there are quite some similarities.
The first picture gives this number, for example: 3662467707273 or 3662282107273. And with another Interpretation it could also be: 183306107273.
The left one could be 6859252, 137130852, 135603252 or 2711243252.
Not sure if this could be a coordinate. How long are the coordinates ingame? Cant look right now.
The thing they remember me to is the Mayan number system.
More about it here:
http://gwydir.demon.co.uk/jo/numbers/maya/
A decoder for this numbers can be found here:
http://www.dcode.fr/maya-numbers
But the numbers i get out are quite strange and some parts of the markings are also open to interpretation(the middle part of the left one, especially).
Not sure if this leads somewhere, but there are quite some similarities.
The first picture gives this number, for example: 3662467707273 or 3662282107273. And with another Interpretation it could also be: 183306107273.
The left one could be 6859252, 137130852, 135603252 or 2711243252.
Not sure if this could be a coordinate. How long are the coordinates ingame? Cant look right now.
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Just a thought, while you guys are out filming as a wing, I wonder if you're all actually watching the same animation.. I mean, if player1 sees it puff green and player2 sees it puff purple (confirm over comms, or by in-game time stamping your vids maybe?) Then it might indicate randomness for the player.
On the other hand, it would confirm you are all seeing the same render and the howls etc are actually generated for all players sycronously. If that's the case, filming the UA from three different angles and editing the videos together would make it possible to see 'all sides at once' if you see what I mean?
Yes I was going to put in a comedy comment about that... But having done the Black/White/Zebra crossing comment earlier I thought I was pushing my luck!
Exactly, there are loads of possibilities. Maybe it's not alien? Maybe it is, but has been repurposed / reprogrammed by humans for their own purposes (remember, every single one found so far has been inside another ship, not "in the wild"). Maybe they're trying to communicate with us, in "our own" language? Maybe it's a probe relaying/parroting our own signals - "Find the human beacon trasmitting [morse code], kill them all!"
And it isn't necessary to understand the origins or structure of a language/comms protocol in order to communicate. Learning languages is one of my hobbies, and I often learn new phrases without having any idea how those words are spelt, or if it's one word or two, or what they mean verbatim. I just learn how to pronounce them and the context in which they're used, and that often suffices. To outsiders, Morse isn't "English" or even Latin-based. From observations they would just map "... _ _ _ ..." to a distress signal, without knowing or needing to know the "middle step" that it translates to "S.O.S".
I'm still wracking my brain trying to think of reasons why it emits Morse... That's the only thing it does - bar explode/disappear - that we can actually understand.
The thing is - if it can identify a system, using the same name that we use, it must have a subspace link to the same galactical data that our ships do. That strongly suggests a human link, or an alien that's able to understand human communication.
As a scanner it's pretty rubbish - given the toxicity - and as a beacon, it's also rubbish - it only lasts 5 minutes - so what's it trying to achieve by broadcasting the Morse?
And, again, why does the Fed navy want it?
I know, I'm coming up with more questions than answers here... Sorry!
The thing is - if it can identify a system, using the same name that we use, it must have a subspace link to the same galactical data that our ships do. That strongly suggests a human link, or an alien that's able to understand human communication.
As a scanner it's pretty rubbish - given the toxicity - and as a beacon, it's also rubbish - it only lasts 5 minutes - so what's it trying to achieve by broadcasting the Morse?
And, again, why does the Fed navy want it?
I know, I'm coming up with more questions than answers here... Sorry!
I'd like to extend the theory on the previous page a bit further to include Starship One....
Maybe I'll grab a few SAP8s tonight and see what happens when they degrade to 0%.
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- Assuming they are SAP8s as above
- Leaky UAs have a hazy "warping" field around them, the crystalline matter inside the SAP8s on the UA are causing this http://elite-dangerous.wikia.com/wiki/Sap_8_Core_Container
- The escaping crystal matter is visible as the blue twinkling lights around the UA
- Starship One was carrying a faulty SAP8, actually a UA with leaky SAP8s
- The leaking crystalline matter reacted with the warp field generated in the period Starship One's FSD was charging resulting in a large power surge
- Starship One was "lost" on jump
- Presumably no high-energy wake was left behind
- Ships in the same wing with tethered jump drives experienced effects similar to forced dropping out of warp/supercruise
Maybe I'll grab a few SAP8s tonight and see what happens when they degrade to 0%.
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There is an easy test here: has the UA been taken and recorded in one of the ongoing CG plague systems?
If the UA is behind these outbreaks, then its behaviour should change once in such a system.
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I think it has been tested in the early days, but nothing obvious, but we didnt know what to look for then (do we now?)
I have been hunting a lot recently. Only found 6 Hafnium convoys so far, but when I get one I will :
1) Test at a Medical CG
2) Take it to Nimoy to test everything before selling it
I cant see any other ideas that are not just cotton candy. Wish more people would hunt rather than make silly suggestions.
Yes it has. Nothing happened. If Rizol72s theory is correct, that does not matter. The Mycoid virus is quit harmless to humans, except for the plastic eating.
^^ is pretty much my thought about that. Something about the morse that gets left at the door is the heavy stylisation of it. This is why audio analysis looking for "morse" didn't work, because *structurally* it's morse, but the sounds are heavily stylised, consecutive dits don't sound the same, but are still distinguishable from dahs, which also differ generally if they are consecutive.
If this quote is also correct:
...then it would make sense that (assuming this is of thargoid origin) they might be trying to reach out using "one of our own languages", and fundamentally, morse is a pretty basic communication method. But like when learning any foreign language, when you speak it you do it "with an accent".
FWIW, this is all just lore theorycrafting and I don't think its going to help "solve" the UAs at all. On a slight tangent, given all our analysis and interest kicked off from someone suggesting "Did you try listening to it?", I do genuinely wonder if there's really any more to it. I have nothing solid to back up that claim, but it's also why I'm going down the path of looking for Trinkets of Hidden Fortune. I've exhausted my capabilities looking at this, and there's a lot of interesting discussion that I can't really contribute much to because it's out of my knowledge domain, so I'm looking for other ideas.
People here seem to be all over the Sap 8-core containers, so someone might work out something with them, but the Trinkets fascinate me a little because they seem to be just as rare (only available through Elite or Founder missions, or incredibly rarely from WSS, I encounter Hafnium 178 much more than trinkets and yet Hafnium is worth 100 times as much). No reason. Just a hunch.
I was just going to suggest the same thing explicitly!
I remember that, in the early days, someone brought it to Leonard Nimoy reporting nothing of interest. BTW he didn't sell it.
My thoughts about Leonard Nimoy station and the Wings Video, is that they just put two new things (the UA and LN station) together just for editing and story reasons. Just that. But it is worth a try.
Sure, but I am also considering the possibility it's not the Mycoid virus, but something humans have designed for "pacifying" troublesome populations (using alien technology). That could explain the Morse and the plagues, if true.
Is there a recording from the visit you mention? Maybe we have to look at the Morse code it emits while in such a system, and we sure weren't looking for that previously.
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...so yeah, I'm not entirely sure it wants to communicate, but ultimately we can theorise all we want; without a testable theory we're just swinging in the breeze.
And I agree - I don't think there's anything else other than the Morse in the sound.
The visual analyses being presented about the UA, however, are interesting and I do wonder if there is something there to crack. Not a clue what, though!
The light activity coming from the 'head', and 'legs' is certainly interesting, as is the visual distortion, and of course, the 'fireflies'... They are very interesting indeed.
Specifically on the 5 minutes bit - we don't know for certain that it degrades/is destroyed in space. Rather we know that it is destroyed in space after being scooped up, held for certain period and then dumped. A wild animal might die after being captured, held in captivity for a period and then released, but that doesn't mean animals can't handle the wild.
If the UA can't survive space, then where did the Feds (or whoever) find it? Underground? In some kind of container in space? It's possible whatever was done to them by the Feds before we get our hands on them is what causes them to degrade and be destroyed.
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Just curious, when people are recording the UA's, has anyone ever tried turning their graphics settings to low?
Reason I suggest that, in all the videos there's clearly parts of the UA lighting up which seem relatively consistent, and I wondered if it wasn't just an artefact of the lighting engine. Turning the graphics down to low would presumably eliminate such artefacts by simply not trying to render them in the first place (lighting effects are usually the first to go, as they can be pretty expensive to get right). But if it's still "lit up", at the very least, it's intentional and perhaps the source of the lighting.
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