"upgrading" from Clipper to Python has been underwhelming so far

[Iori]

I've been flying Clippers for months, and I decided to try the Python for CZ, maybe the extra large hard point will help me kill stuff faster.

Turns out, it doesn't feel that way at all, the energy capacitor seems to drain faster, so you only do more damage in that initial burst, the turn speed is so slow it is hard to keep the aim at the small ships, and since the speed is also slow, enemy ships just run away from you and going from one target to another is also slower.

I also got my canopy broken as soon as the shields went down, didn't even have time to finish of an NPC Clipper before I had to jump out, I recall the Clipper giving a bit more margin.

It feels that the only thing this ship has over the Clipper is the ability to dock in outposts. I'll probably run a few tests with actual numbers to compare the moneymaking with the Clipper, but lest just say I'm far from sold, plus the lack of style is the biggest problem

 

[h347h]

I've been flying Clippers for months, and I decided to try the Python for CZ, maybe the extra large hard point will help me kill stuff faster.

Turns out, it doesn't feel that way at all, the energy capacitor seems to drain faster, so you only do more damage in that initial burst, the turn speed is so slow it is hard to keep the aim at the small ships, and since the speed is also slow, enemy ships just run away from you and going from one target to another is also slower.

I also got my canopy broken as soon as the shields went down, didn't even have time to finish of an NPC Clipper before I had to jump out, I recall the Clipper giving a bit more margin.

It feels that the only thing this ship has over the Clipper is the ability to dock in outposts. I'll probably run a few tests with actual numbers to compare the moneymaking with the Clipper, but lest just say I'm far from sold, plus the lack of style is the biggest problem

Wait till its A grade, then judge. Having owned both A grade ill never touch a clipper again.

 

[Futuristic Kung Fu]

Just because something looks good on paper doesn't mean it's good in the Real. ( not that I would no , it will still be a few years before I've got enough credits to kit out a Python)

 

[Iori]

Wait till its A grade, then judge. Having owned both A grade ill never touch a clipper again.

Everything is A grade.

 

[Rubbernuke]

With an A grade power distributor, and a good generator, the Python can recharge very quickly.

The only thing the clipper does better is speed. The Python is quite slow, and without good thrusters a brick.

 

[Dubber]

I've got one, for me it's pretty darn good, FA off it turns pretty smartly. Using 3 c3beams and 2 multi cannons for the bigger stuff

 

[CMDR Ellegon]

I have both ships and I am the first to admit that the Python has much better utility. But it is really sluggish by comparison - the Clipper is simply a lot more fun to fly.

 

[Soopyyy]

Python is a tank. You're doing it wrong if you're struggling.

 

[Aussiedroid]

Fly what you enjoy my friend

Personally, I like both but feel the Python is superior in many ways .. just suits me better I guess.

 

[Iori]

Right now I'm using everything A rated (except the life support)

3 Large Gimbaled pulses
2 gimbaled multicannons

Same as in my Clipper but 1 more pulse.

Thing is full of SCBs and Shield boosters.

I'll try the large PA + turrets build later.

 

[Iori]

You can C- or D-rate sensors too without feeling it much and you'll need to for more power with an all-energy build. Especially since burst lasers do draw more than pulses. Also power management. But yeah, pulse lasers always feel wimpy, and they do more DPM than anything... but because their DPS sucks, you have to point at the target constantly... which the Python can hardly do to anything, even an Anaconda. No wonder you're having no fun with it.

I've annihilated many a 'Conda with my build. Of course, that was PvE; not sure how well it'll do in PvP and no desire to find out. But you'll have plenty of PvE fun with it my way.

I'm killing everything with my current build too, is just doesn't feel any faster than it did with the Clipper

 

[CATPAIN KIRK]

Right now I'm using everything A rated (except the life support)

3 Large Gimbaled pulses
2 gimbaled multicannons

Same as in my Clipper but 1 more pulse.

Thing is full of SCBs and Shield boosters.

I'll try the large PA + turrets build later.

Not sure how you manage to drain your weapon capacitor with that setup. I typically use 3 large fixed pulses and 2 med rails and yet have to see my capacitor drain, flying the Python for over 7 months now.

Anyway - the reason you consider it underwhelming might be due to neglecting one of its major advantages over the Clipper, which is weapon convergence.
Unless using some asymmetric loadouts, it pretty much forces you to use gimballed weapons - on the Python, that's entirely unnecessary, resulting in 20% more damage in addition to the extra large hardpoint.

 

[[HJ]-RedRaven]

I've never flown the Clipper, but had no problem dispatching NPC clippers i my Python, even while non-A rated.

A-rated, I still use C3G Pulsex3 and 2 C2G Beams. Pulses and beams on different fire buttons. I can use the pulse lasers for quite a while, and add the beams and drain the cap if I need that burst of extra dps (or if the target flies past me, in which case I know I'll get some re-charge, so do the damage while you still can!)

 

[askavir]

I have both ships and I am the first to admit that the Python has much better utility. But it is really sluggish by comparison - the Clipper is simply a lot more fun to fly.

Exactly the same feeling I had. Kept the Python for some time, ended up going back to the Clipper. Miss the ability to dock at outposts, the extra large weapon and the extra fuel. But the Clipper is way more fun to fly.

 

[Iori]

Trying new set ups, so far the fastest to kill stuff have been one single gimbaled beam and 4 med MC, but I'm wasting 2 large hardpoints with this, for this set up might as well go Fer de lance instead, which can hold the same weapons and is faster.

 

[Skyrun]

The advantage of the python is the better power coupling (7 instead of 6). You get more power to your weapons - you make more damage.

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Trying new set ups, so far the fastest to kill stuff have been one single gimbaled beam and 4 med MC, but I'm wasting 2 large hardpoints with this, for this set up might as well go Fer de lance instead, which can hold the same weapons and is faster.

The FDL has a smaller power coupling than the python so less damage per time.

 

[Stressfest]

I've had 3 clippers, 2 python and one FDL over the past month. I can't seem to find my "thang".. oh and a T9. I think I'll just keep shooting things that move at RES until I get my mojo back

 

[Iori]

The advantage of the python is the better power coupling (7 instead of 6). You get more power to your weapons - you make more damage.

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The FDL has a smaller power coupling than the python so less damage per time.

Power coupling is pretty much irrelevant when you only have one energy weapon and the rest are ballistic. The energy one is just useful until you get the shields down, which is not hard for NPCs in general, as they tend to have weak shields.

 

[Axelsson]

Clipper to Python can be considered a side-grade. I prefer the Python, but the difference in real use is not that big. I fly both quite often. I feel the same for the Fer-de-Lance actually. Its again different, but not more or less as effective as Clipper and Python in a CZ. I don't fly it much because of the stupid bar getting in the way of my view.

 

[Soopyyy]

Clipper to Python can be considered a side-grade. I prefer the Python, but the difference in real use is not that big. I fly both quite often. I feel the same for the Fer-de-Lance actually. Its again different, but not more or less as effective as Clipper and Python in a CZ. I don't fly it much because of the stupid bar getting in the way of my view.

FDL and Clipper are on par, the Python is simply more powerful.