I'm a deep space explorer that spends most of my time tens of thousands of light years away from civilization. I was wondering if it were possible to incorporate Vista Genomics into a fleet carrier as either part of Universal Cartographics OR it's own service. I think this would be a good way to support more deep space exploration.
I am an explorer too and i like to travel with my carrier. With exploring i can keep my upkeep for the carrier and only need to mine some days for tritium beside exploring. Thats totally fine and i like this kind of gameplay. Now, without „Vista genomics“ module or the possibility to sell the data, the carrier is only a repair station.
Last edited:
I support this idea wholeheartedly. This is exactly the same situation as if there would be no UC on Fleet Carriers, making them useless to anyone doing deep space exploration.
I was going to create a new thread suggesting the same thing but then found this one, so thought I'd resurrect it instead 
I agree, would be very nice to have VG on the FC. At this stage it wouldn't matter if you can't walk around and talk to someone, just a button in the carrier GUI would be fine. In the future it wouldn't matter if Horizons only players could access it as they wouldn't have data to sell anyway.
I agree, would be very nice to have VG on the FC. At this stage it wouldn't matter if you can't walk around and talk to someone, just a button in the carrier GUI would be fine. In the future it wouldn't matter if Horizons only players could access it as they wouldn't have data to sell anyway.
Completely agree!! I prefer it out in the void, and have been here the Errant Marches for nearly 18 months. I made one round trip to purchase the suit and am not liking the idea that I again have to return to sell my data whilst I can offload my carto data on the carrier. Even if we don't get legs on carriers I would be happy with a menu option to sell.
I am neither explorer, not FC owner.
OP, if your most concern for getting credits while exploring to pay upkeep cost, maybe it would be better option to accumulate upkeep cost until return to the "civilization" and only then pay it accumulated?
Then you have a chance to sell your exploration/genetic data on one of the stations and pay to your carrier crew salary for all the months spent on long trip.
Maybe as an option you should pay a fraction of upkeep cost while exploring (like to fulfill everyday needs of crew - pay for food, entertainment etc) and major part after return. This would reduce probability of abandoned FCs parked just next to the bubble.
OP, if your most concern for getting credits while exploring to pay upkeep cost, maybe it would be better option to accumulate upkeep cost until return to the "civilization" and only then pay it accumulated?
Then you have a chance to sell your exploration/genetic data on one of the stations and pay to your carrier crew salary for all the months spent on long trip.
Maybe as an option you should pay a fraction of upkeep cost while exploring (like to fulfill everyday needs of crew - pay for food, entertainment etc) and major part after return. This would reduce probability of abandoned FCs parked just next to the bubble.
It sounded more to me like they don't want to return to civilization at all, which prior to EDO was completely viable. Now deep space exploration includes cataloging stuff on planets, which unlike the discovery of the planets themselves... forces you to come back.
The delayed payment would be exploited in the sense that one would just have to never bring the FC back to civilisation to avoid upkeep altogether.
Visitors supporting the upkeep of a deep space FC is nice, however most explorers are not bothered by the cost (selling cartographic data to your own FC is generally more than enough): the concern is the inability to sell the genetic data, because if anything bad happens, you lose the data, and exobiology is extremely slow, time consuming and only pays a fraction of cartographic data.
Additionally, it is very time and resource consuming to move with an FC from one side of the galaxy to another, only to sell data.
yup, I see.
I was not aware of the ability to have Universal Cartographics service on the FC. As Vista Genomics is only part of on-foot (Odyssey) experience, then most probably we'll see it added to FC not sooner than adding concourses to fleet carriers.
The issue is not only about being or not being able to sell exo data to carriers. It's a bigger inconsistency issue around exploration and exobiology data "processing". It's all data after all. A bunch of zeroes and ones stored on some data storage device. And yet:
I hope it gets reworked soon. I really do.
- explo data survives when you die on foot, exo data doesn't
- explo data survives when you crash your SRV, exo data doesn't (moreover: mats gathered in SRV do survive SRV crash! even though they are not data but smth physical!)
- explo data can be sold to a carrier, exo data can't
I hope it gets reworked soon. I really do.
I would really like to see the review of Vista data management in regards to EDO and FC's gain some traction. I think LifesAJourney summed it up very succinctly regarding the bigger issues around exploration and data handling. On a game play note I know I am one of many who would like to see the return of pre-EDO's viability in not having to return to the bubble.
I did find a link on the issue tracker at confirming status (https://issues.frontierstore.net/issue-detail/38744)
I'm not sure at this stage if our input there would help escalate this or not, I am considering opening up another ticket using (with authors permission) the valuable input here for another ticket.
I did find a link on the issue tracker at confirming status (https://issues.frontierstore.net/issue-detail/38744)
I'm not sure at this stage if our input there would help escalate this or not, I am considering opening up another ticket using (with authors permission) the valuable input here for another ticket.
I support the OP's suggestion, but my understanding was that exobiology data is more than just data - the genetic sampler takes and stores actual physical biological samples that you then sell to VG, which is why it behaves differently to data.
Now, granted there is an inconsistency with how all other materials are collected (
), but I do understand what FDev were trying to achieve with Exo samples.Anyway - +1 OP!