Here is the latest from Frontier by obsidian ant.
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uh6-nV-QCaU
VR support 'not at launch' for Odyssey
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Thanks for this DD, looked into it and it is a decent survey. 17,800 respondents etc.
It is another signal that VR ownership amongst ED veterans is likely higher than the marketplace average.
I'd already been looking at FS2020 as a replacement for ED on the basis that if I have to fly in flatscreen I might as well have scenery to look at. With VR support ... well, I have a Reverb G1 so I'm not super thrilled about the G2 thing, but I expect the G1 will be supported sooner rather than later.
I have a couple of thousand hours invested in ED and I'd like to keep playing it, but I'd like to keep playing it in VR. I will buy Odyssey but if Frontier want any money from me beyond that they need to rethink their position on VR.
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In related news MS of all people have shown it is possible to mak a decision and then change it due to customer feedback
MSFS 2020 has gone from No VR in December 2019
To OK we will do our best but no promises and an it won't be at launch
To Probably not at launch but it is a top priority and we have people actively working on it
To the new annoucement VR coming this autumn. Initially for the G2 which is their primary platform but other steamVR headsets coming after
Microsoft Flight Simulator VR Support Confirmed For Fall, But Only Windows MR At First (Update)
Update: Originally this story reported that VR support was only coming for the HP Reverb G2. Now, developers have clarified that it will actually support all Windows Mixed Reality headsets at launch and is coming to other headsets/platforms later. The original post has been completely edited to...uploadvr.com
Quote from AVSIM in October 2019:
"head of Microsoft Flight Simulator Jörg Neumann reveals that although VR support wasn’t initially on the drawing table, that they’re trying to make it a possibility. “It honestly wasn’t our plan [to support VR], but we are listening, and we heard it, so we will try our darnedest to make it happen,” Neumann explains. “Whether or not we’re going to pull it off for launch, […] we can’t commit to that at this point in time, but we have the desire.”
Come on FD... just make a statement like this and we'll all be happy!
Sounds like you’ve misconstrued what happened. Which is familiar :/
They initially said no VR, seemingly reacted to a market push and said they’d try and add VR (probably not for launch), and have now announced partial VR support for approx a few months after launch. Which people are celebrating.
Meanwhile, regarding ED, VR-heads are still quite naturally grumpy about the cessation of VR support for the expansion, and the lack of a firm commitment to adding it after launch.
If FDev were to announce partial support coming a few months after launch, we’d probably celebrate too. Weirdly enough
I'm not following the goalposts all the way over there.
Well here's something funny (vs 'wah, people in VR can shoot blind around corners - no fair!'). Bolded bits done by me...
Microsoft Flight Simulator to Launch on Steam on August 18
Listening to the community has been a priority for the development team since the announcement of Microsoft Flight Simulator in June 2019. Two of the most requested features we’ve been hearing about from the Community are TrackIR and VR support.
Today we are excited to announce that Microsoft Flight Simulator will have TrackIR support available on day one, and VR support will be available later this year in time for the launch of the HP Reverb G2!
news.xbox.com
Microsoft Flight Simulator to Launch on Steam on August 18
Listening to the community has been a priority for the development team since the announcement of Microsoft Flight Simulator in June 2019. Two of the most requested features we’ve been hearing about from the Community are TrackIR and VR support.
Today we are excited to announce that Microsoft Flight Simulator will have TrackIR support available on day one, and VR support will be available later this year in time for the launch of the HP Reverb G2!
Microsoft Flight Simulator to Launch on Steam on August 18; TrackIR and VR Supported - Xbox Wire
In addition to availability on Windows 10 and Xbox Game Pass for PC (Xbox Game Pass for PC is currently in Beta), Microsoft Flight Simulator will also be coming to Steam on August 18. We are thrilled to announce that Steam pre-orders for the Standard, Deluxe, and Premium Deluxe editions of...
news.xbox.com
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Wow you do like to reinvent history to support a narrative . MS said no VR, lots of pressure they said ok we will investigate it.. feedback was really positive at that so they made it a top priority and now it IS confirmed.
This is how good ED is in VR.
I start my session at the other end of our spare bedroom, aka the man cave, aka the cockpit.
I put my headset on and literally walk from the back of the cockpit to the chair. I then sit down, take control of the X52, and away we go.
Each gaming session starts with me walking through the cockpit.
And at the end, I get out of my chair and walk to the back of the cockpit before taking my headset off.
Talk about immersion!
Im sorry, but if you’ve never played Elite in VR you have no idea how amazing this game is.
Of course we’re upset Odyssey isn’t supported!
I start my session at the other end of our spare bedroom, aka the man cave, aka the cockpit.
I put my headset on and literally walk from the back of the cockpit to the chair. I then sit down, take control of the X52, and away we go.
Each gaming session starts with me walking through the cockpit.
And at the end, I get out of my chair and walk to the back of the cockpit before taking my headset off.
Talk about immersion!
Im sorry, but if you’ve never played Elite in VR you have no idea how amazing this game is.
Of course we’re upset Odyssey isn’t supported!
And the following is drastically increasing the Steam percentage since Oculus runs on its own platform:Thanks for this DD, looked into it and it is a decent survey. 17,800 respondents etc.
It is another signal that VR ownership amongst ED veterans is likely higher than the marketplace average.
Then why is MS Valve and HP all partnered together on the Reverb G2 headset?
Not necessarily, Oculus usage on Steam is pretty high:
I'm on a Rift but use Steam still, due to better sale deals (and the fact that if I change headset I'll still have access to my purchases).
Steam will always just be a guideline though, not a comprehensive survey of PCVR, for sure.
Maybe you should reread your own post, since that not what it says :
We seem to have shifted from they just made this change because people complained to they announced they were working on this change long ago. You can't have it both ways it's one or the other.
FDEV can't commit since some people are unable to cope with change and have a tendency to cherry pick what they want to read in a sentence. They've been warning people to expect change since the kickstarter, to no avail in some cases.
"head of Microsoft Flight Simulator Jörg Neumann reveals that although VR support wasn’t initially on the drawing table, that they’re trying to make it a possibility. “It honestly wasn’t our plan [to support VR], but we are listening, and we heard it, so we will try our darnedest to make it happen,” Neumann explains. “Whether or not we’re going to pull it off for launch, […] we can’t commit to that at this point in time, but we have the desire.”
Are you getting this repeatedly wrong on purpose to be annoying?
Try reading the context contained within the linked articles. Or, just, read what people are saying. As they’re representing those events in a perfectly clear and accurate manner.
So not very dissimilar at all to "not at launch" then. The FDEV version is actually far more positive from a VR perspective.
Its just a discussion about possible peripherals for a video game
.At the time of that quote they were aiming for launch, if unlikely to hit it. Whereas FDev have categorically said that they’re not aiming for launch, and have no timeframe for post-launch addition.
So no. FDev’s version is not more positive. It is bizarre that you think so.
Its just a discussion about possible peripherals for a video game
Indeed. But if you’re going spend your time dismissing the legitimacy of related fan concerns, as you have been, you might want to try and at least get the basics right.
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True enough in isolation. The difference is how many times FD have used the xyz not at launch feature.
Maybe FD will deliver VR for odyssey, it's not impossible but the odds our not in our favour. (By our I mean VR users , I am fully away you don't give 2 squits either way)
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So, the takeaway from today’s livestream:
- VR is still ”not at launch”.
- VR is being actively considered.
- Quoted issues are mainly concerns for player nausea.
Player nausea? Jesus Christ that is what pc options are for. Just stick a warning on and let the customer decide what they can handle
Maybe, maybe not wait and see.