Wait, wait, wait! So even when you`ve bought everything you still have to buy the Beta?

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For free???????????

I can't facedesk hard enough here - so Horizons is FREE is it? That's really funny because I thought people had to pay for it.

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Have you seen their financial report? I really wish people understood reading those better ;)

People paid for Horizons. They get Horizons. They didn't pay for the beta test. They don't get the beta test. I think it's quite simple. I preordered a GTX 970 once and nobody invited me to their factories or gave me a press release sample.
 
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Jex =TE=

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Nope but you clearly can ..

Interesting made up facts there :)

Let me educate you in English - the ? at the end means I'm asking a querstion, not stating a fact though I see the little trap I set for people to jump all over when they didn't have anything to say worked a treat ;)

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No, it's like buying a sandwich and paying an extra 50p to lick the lettuce while it's being made.

LOL can I pay for my knapkin too?!! Please!?? PLEEEEEEEEEEEEASEEE!!!!!????
 

Jex =TE=

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If you didn't pay for Beta access then you clearly don't get access as you haven't paid for it.... if you paid for Horizons you will get exactly what you paid for once it is released.

You've PAID already for the season. Charging again for it is outright muggery and as has been pointed out, beta "testing" is no such thing since every release does NOT fix bugs pointed out by the people playing it.

So it's even worse, it's paying to test their game and then they just laugh at you all as you join the server they pay £500 a month for (they actually use my old 486 it can handle the load) and then they don't fix the bugs.

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Hmmmm English you say?

Yeah it's called a typo. Where you unable to work out what the word is - it's "question"
 
Gosh this thread is bizarre.

How is lack of Beta access effecting your game experience? Its not as if the live servers have been switched off whilst the Beta is running, all this nonsense of being asked to pay to eat a sandwich you've already paid for? What does that even mean? Are you suggesting that your game is ruined unless you pay for it again?

Its not like anything that happens in there is carried over anyway. If its a simple case of not agreeing with having to pay to be a bug tester then don't pay if it means that much to you.

Seriously have a few words with yourselves but if you cant get over it, can you quit with the sandwich analogies please? I missed breakfast after a rubbish night with the daughter and I'm Hank Marvin, and your making it worse!
 
You've PAID already for the season. Charging again for it is outright muggery and as has been pointed out, beta "testing" is no such thing since every release does NOT fix bugs pointed out by the people playing it.

So it's even worse, it's paying to test their game and then they just laugh at you all as you join the server they pay £500 a month for (they actually use my old 486 it can handle the load) and then they don't fix the bugs.

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Yeah it's called a typo. Where you unable to work out what the word is - it's "question"

Good. They aren't charging again for Season 2. Case closed?
 

Jex =TE=

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You're paying for the final, released product, not early access to betas that (let's be honest now) you won't really beta test.

If you're going to actually beta test then you'll have a long list of things that need to be tried, and reports to write up. Actual beta testing is tedious, finicky work.

Stop kidding yourself that you're beta testing. You want early access to fun stuff. And for that you pay.

Call me principaled but when a company uses, cheap greedy tactics like this it tends to show all they care about is money.

We can tell of the quality of this update by looking at it

Planets - big deal we had them in FE2
RNGineers - possibly a weekend to develope? Wheel of fortune on grin
Passengers - waypoints in space! another weekend of coding
MC - 3rd person camera turret game that people won't be using in a month - another weekend's worth of work.

I'm not seeing the value in the purchase here and on top of that, you have to pay to access it as a "beta" - that's cash grabbing hands right there.

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Good. They aren't charging again for Season 2. Case closed?

I'm loaning my 486 for free so they can charge you more.
 
Call me principaled but when a company uses, cheap greedy tactics like this it tends to show all they care about is money.

We can tell of the quality of this update by looking at it

Planets - big deal we had them in FE2
RNGineers - possibly a weekend to develope? Wheel of fortune on grin
Passengers - waypoints in space! another weekend of coding
MC - 3rd person camera turret game that people won't be using in a month - another weekend's worth of work.

I'm not seeing the value in the purchase here and on top of that, you have to pay to access it as a "beta" - that's cash grabbing hands right there.

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I'm loaning my 486 for free so they can charge you more.

Guess you better uninstall then since the whole game is a violation of your "principals."
But then you wouldn't get the desperately needed attention eh?
 
Call me principaled but when a company uses, cheap greedy tactics like this it tends to show all they care about is money.

We can tell of the quality of this update by looking at it

Planets - big deal we had them in FE2
RNGineers - possibly a weekend to develope? Wheel of fortune on grin
Passengers - waypoints in space! another weekend of coding
MC - 3rd person camera turret game that people won't be using in a month - another weekend's worth of work.

I'm not seeing the value in the purchase here and on top of that, you have to pay to access it as a "beta" - that's cash grabbing hands right there.
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As I wrote above, unless you are really, actually beta testing then all you are really doing is getting early access to fun new stuff. I have no issues with them charging people for that.

Now, what would be nice is if FDev refunded your beta price if you submit a real, useful bug report.
 

Jex =TE=

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Guess you better uninstall then since the whole game is a violation of your "principals."
But then you wouldn't get the desperately needed attention eh?

I don't play the tech demo I have right now and attention? I dunno what to say about what is going on in your appeasing brain so eager to hand over your money for nothing. Perhaps I just have a higher standard of morals than you do and take the time to think about the things in front of me. When there's a game in this barebones demo I'll re-invest but during that time, I'll try to at least make an effort, for free by the way though you're welcome to pay me, to steer the game to a more intelligent and deeper game than the unchallenging, easy boring and expensive game we have right now.
 
I don't play the tech demo I have right now and attention? I dunno what to say about what is going on in your appeasing brain so eager to hand over your money for nothing. Perhaps I just have a higher standard of morals than you do...

The word you're looking for is 'entitlement', not 'morals'.
 
Call me principaled but when a company uses, cheap greedy tactics like this it tends to show all they care about is money.

We can tell of the quality of this update by looking at it

Planets - big deal we had them in FE2
RNGineers - possibly a weekend to develope? Wheel of fortune on grin
Passengers - waypoints in space! another weekend of coding
MC - 3rd person camera turret game that people won't be using in a month - another weekend's worth of work.

I'm not seeing the value in the purchase here and on top of that, you have to pay to access it as a "beta" - that's cash grabbing hands right there.

Based on what you can achieve in a weekend, I would humbly advise you to take a few months of your time to actually develop the next contender that will bury both Elite Dangerous and Star Citizen.
 
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