If we ever get this option, I'm clearing my save and starting again as 'CMDR SassBeard'. I will be the scourge of FC owners everywhere.
But they could never be strong enough to guarantee success, otherwise, who would attack the carriers? Who right now starts shooting at stations within the no fire zone? No one, because that is instant death. So you're asleep, you wake up robbed even though you spent 20m (random number) on security. Not sure you're going to do finger guns at the screen and say, 'Great gameplay'.
I'll mention it again, because it seems to have not been noticed, even in open only, your FC will be defenceless at some point. You'll have wasted money on defences and lost your cargo, all whilst you're asleep.
I mean, sure, I'm up for it because I don't own one and so consequently, don't spend a lot of my game time filling it up with stuff that can be stolen without me being able to do a thing about it.
Simply this. This game is not the kind of game in which that kind of gameplay happens.They're cross-platform and cross-mode, so it isn't going to happen.
Having someone loot your cargo from Solo when you can't do anything to stop them is NOT fun gameplay.
Before I was a shop keeper I was among other things a pirate. Defenses don't have to be invincible in or order to be a deterrent. Plent of time I've passed up a type 6 for a type 9. I passed up target that worth worth the effort in preference to easy fat scores.
With 10,000 plus FC around there are not shortage of potential targest. It's like that old saying when you are being chased by a bear. You don't need to outrun the bear. You only need to outpace the slowest member of your party.
In this case, hiring persistent NPC guards protects your carrier offline, cross platform and cross modes enough to be an deterrent in preference of other fatter, juicier targets that are easier to pilfer.
Gonna have to disagree with that. I play on PS4. Someone on PC can just destroy my FC and steal? Not to mention they can't stop someone from LTD exploiting/rock reset, imagine some azzhole pirating your FC in the black over and over again doing that just cuz. Then add in wings/squadrons of pirates? Good grief. I would be ok with FC's being attacked somewhat if there were 'rules'. AND you were able to upgrade your FC to withstand a barrage of attacks.As a FC owner, I support this. We look out over our fields of LTDs, Tritium and Credit Towers like the Gods of Olympus survey their celestial treasure hoards totally immune to the thieves and scoundrels of the galaxy. That's just not right.
Yes, pros and cons.Gonna have to disagree with that. I play on PS4. Someone on PC can just destroy my FC and steal? Not to mention they can't stop someone from LTD exploiting/rock reset, imagine some azzhole pirating your FC in the black over and over again doing that just cuz. Then add in wings/squadrons of pirates? Good grief. I would be ok with FC's being attacked somewhat if there were 'rules'. AND you were able to upgrade your FC to withstand a barrage of attacks.
Personally I would hate to see efforts like the DSSA get ganked
I should rephrase. I somewhat, loosely agree with you but there would need to be some staunch rules. I could see that getting exploited and griefing and no different from cheating.Yes, pros and cons.
Never thought about a FC getting completely destroyed w/ Rebuy including all contents. yep that would be end game.I'm thinking that a player would have to use a Fleet Carrier to pirate a Fleet Carrier given their weapons take out any NPC or
live player ship attacking them just like an orbiting station. Being naive I attacked a Capitol Ship when they first came out in
a FAS. 20 minutes and I didn't put a dent in the thing but this was before the new spiffy C&P rules so no big deal.
Meanwhile we cannot even rotate our Fleet Carriers so they at least look good in the sunlight. Doesn't seem likely especially
when players have stored 30 engineered ships and 120 modules on them leaving their home base. That would be the worst
rebuy and an end game for many including me.
Regards
Maybe you are thinking 'hatch breakers' like a Megaship where a player can access their supplies of Tritium, LTDs,Never thought about a FC getting completely destroyed w/ Rebuy including all contents. yep that would be end game.
However I still emphasize if something like that were implemented there would have to be a series of limitations.
While I don't see FC's getting changed to allow piracy, yeah perhaps along those lines. Blowing them up outright will certainly kill the game for many. I would be concerned more for the community efforts of say like the DSSA and what it would do to that. I think it would destroy that benevolent effort.Maybe you are thinking 'hatch breakers' like a Megaship where a player can access their supplies of Tritium, LTDs,
Painite etc. Then there is that problem with the firepower of an orbiting station.
Maybe not if the DSSA players have considered the worse scenario before doing their thing and have a combat response. Some will and others won't. It took awhile for the Fuel Rats to figure it out. So will the DSSA.While I don't see FC's getting changed to allow piracy, yeah perhaps along those lines. Blowing them up outright will certainly kill the game for many. I would be concerned more for the community efforts of say like the DSSA and what it would do to that. I think it would destroy that benevolent effort.
What costs are you referring to? And how would PvP take away from the community building aspect?I think piracy of offline players is a pretty terrible idea, no offense. Fleet Carriers already have enough costs involved, and they're a strong community building aspect; we shouldn't punish players for that.
Current mechanics make it pretty much impossible anyway. Try to do something illegal inside the no fire zone and you'll get obliterated.