Those used to have bad guys and were a harder scenario because there wasn't much cover and the power and ammo were right in the middle. Then somewhere along the line the bad guy spawns vanished....
What exactly is the purpose and future of on foot game play in ED?
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To the end that some people enjoy it, it doesn't need anymore justification than that. I'm glad you're content with staying in your ship and it's great that you have the option to carry on enjoying your ship based gameplay and pretend legs doesn't exist without penalty. The scope of the game was never supposed to stop at ships though and it's also great that there is ground stuff for those that want it.
Unlocking the engineers just requires you to do specific things but those only add specific effects. You can upgrade all your stuff to g5 without an engineer unlock
If you go with a Larceny mission they're deserted, however if you just drop on one randomly there are often scavs about.
But cannot add mods. If you want to avoid the Ody engineers, you need to find the suit weapon with the one or if you are really lucky, two mods already installed. Some of the mods are really useful.
Correct. They are useful, but not mandatory.
Strictly speaking no engineering for foot or ship has been mandatory.
Right, but as someone whos done extensive settlement raiding, settlement restoration, ground combat zones, and some exo, g5 weapoms and suits perform just fine. The engineering effects are nice bonuses, but if someone didnt want to grind the engineer access out, they can perform well without it
I did it in G3 well into the Thargoid war. My first G5 suit was done for the AX restoration jobs.
When I
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Agreed, I've been doing very well, thanks, with a G5 suit (with 2 effects added as it was a G3 purchase) and G5 weapons, only 1 of which had 2 effects added when purchased, the others are just G5.
I almost never take larceny missions. So unless it's changed again recently I have not seen any scavs at those sites for literal years.
It isn't COD in space, so would need a much bigger rework than your suggestion, allegedly.
And, if it had such, there would be complaints that it was just like every other 'done to death' FPS game...
The 'on foot' whole shebang needs to be scrapped. Its rubbish.
Compared to shooters.
AI is pants. The weps are just crap.
The suits yeah ill give them credit.
I G5 and modded 3 suits and 3 weps. Since then I haven't gone near on foot gameplay.
I reckon they outsourced it and got what they deserved. Crap!
The recent exploit (data spamming) for powerplay 2.0 sums it up.
They just went down the wrong road!
Space legs for landing on and exploring planets. And we got a sh**show instead.
Im seriously starting to lose faith. Hauling hauling hauling.
Opportunity missed.
Missed the point of space legs! Why does everything have to be pew pew and really poor at that.?
Damn shame.
Compared to shooters.
AI is pants. The weps are just crap.
The suits yeah ill give them credit.
I G5 and modded 3 suits and 3 weps. Since then I haven't gone near on foot gameplay.
I reckon they outsourced it and got what they deserved. Crap!
The recent exploit (data spamming) for powerplay 2.0 sums it up.
They just went down the wrong road!
Space legs for landing on and exploring planets. And we got a sh**show instead.
Im seriously starting to lose faith. Hauling hauling hauling.
Opportunity missed.
Missed the point of space legs! Why does everything have to be pew pew and really poor at that.?
Damn shame.
Elite is first and foremost a space game. I don't know why people say that on-foot gameplay doesn't belong in Elite or its a "separate game within a game".
It would be incredibly stupid for a game that's pretty much a space sim at its core, to not have the ability to walk on planets in your spacesuit. Space isn't just walking around in ships.
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That would be because when you look at the on foot content. It isn't integrated into the game. It's an element to the side of what came before. the only real cross over is that weapons fire goes both ways and you use a ship to get to the ground. Beyond that they really don't interact. Credits are the only resource shared. It's got it's own engineering(which is a system that players rejected for ships) it's own mats and it doesn't interact with the stuff that came before it nor does the stuff from before interact with it beyond guns. We can't scan foot stuff from SRV. Foot stuff can't data link or composition scan. We can't walk around hubs or enter abandoned sites. They share a galaxy but it would have been better for everyone if each one was a stand alone game that had a game engine tuned for what it is. Instead of what we have currently which is a very compromised solution.
Sure, the implementation isn't the best, i agree with that. But Odyssey and on-foot gameplay would've been the natural progression for a game like Elite anyway.
Not really there was already so much space gameplay that hadn't been fleshed out. It was always going to be a huge stretch to add it and have it not suck. In a perfect world with infinite resources maybe natural progression. In elite. No it was just pandering to the screaming fans and it has cost us dearly.
There was already a precedent set as in us being able to land on planets in the first place with Horizons expansion. It was obvious once we had that in the game, the next step was always going to be on-foot content, these 2 things are closely intertwined. Once you do it, you have to do the other thing aswell. Look at EVE, where you have this highly detailed character creator for absolutely nothing because after developing it, they decided to ditch their "on-foot" gameplay and now it just feels weird and incomplete. All you see is your spaceship and your character is non-existent. You can't interact with your character at all and every single interaction between players are trough their ships.
It's like having a NFS game with the devs making a DLC about you being able to paint your car but then they decide to shift focus on developing road markings for the various tracks, instead of them continuing on the obvious progression path as in you being able to fully customize/tune your car.
I'm willing to bet people would not complain about on-foot content if Odyssey also included ship interiors, wich is a very ironic thing because most people complain about on-foot content but would have no problem with Frontier spending half their budged on ship interiors, wich technically is also on-foot content. At least they somewhat partialy fixed it ( altough "fixed" is a very big word ) with us being able to AT LEAST explore our fleet carriers, even if it's in a very limited way.
If for example, Frontier choosed to not develop Horizons and making us able to land on planets in the first place and solely focusing on spaceship gameplay, then you could argue on-foot would be a waste of time, but again, once we we're able to land in the first place, on-foot was a natural progression to the game, at least that's my opinion and how i view this whole thing.
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