Founded on a synthesis/crafting overhaul
G5 before tripling drops and you ask me what the needle is? There was noway to tell contents of planets and you just rolled and rolled the dice. And when you were done rolling you were binning eandom stuff in the hope you wont need them, which was wrong of course. Ah and the cargo ingredients. You give me a hard time believing you managed to G5 anything under that regime.
It was certainly possible. I had my own fleet (though smaller than it is today) G5 engineered before the engineering revamp came. I'm hanging on to the size 5 legacy shield of my Cutter to this day still, you simply can't make one like that anymore.
God that must have been painful. I scraped together only 2 meagre shield boosters (full bins, mind you, randomly acquired by "just playing") and said "erf this" when I saw the requirements with cargo ingredients - wasn't that for tier 2 already?
It’s called having a strategy, and realizing that the best way to achieve your goals was to pursue them in parallel, rather than serially. It did help that my main ships at the time were an exploration Hauler and my Cobra Mark III, so it wasn’t like I had thousands of modules to do. At the time, credits was still scarce enough that BGS work consumed most of my income, and I really wasn’t in a hurry to move to larger ships because I still prefer how smaller ships handle in Supercruise.
And of course I was busy collecting other things, just in case I needed stuff for synthesis. So by the time Engineers dropped, I had sufficient stores to get my two workhorses to G3 and G4, with three G5 modules IIRC. And when those bins filled up again, I’d G5 whatever I could, and use the rest to improve the G3s and G4s. Because G3s and G4s were highly underrated under the old system.Strategy I had none. I didn't use spreadsheets nor 3rd party apps. The SRV was fun - I enjoyed the sonar blipping and signal resolution minigame. It's just the the yields were meagre. The only thing I could pull off reliably was restocking the SRV with synthesis, but even finding anything more advanced than T1 materials for restocking or the combat buff? Forget it. Once I used the T1 combat ammo buff vs goliath. It wasn't worth it imo - waste of mats for too short a benefit. Especially considering we had to juggle inventory space for a bloated list of ingredients of which it is impossible to remember what is needed when and which.It’s called having a strategy, and realizing that the best way to achieve your goals was to pursue them in parallel, rather than serially. It did help that my main ships at the time were an exploration Hauler and my Cobra Mark III, so it wasn’t like I had thousands of modules to do. At the time, credits was still scarce enough that BGS work consumed most of my income, and I really wasn’t in a hurry to move to larger ships because I still prefer how smaller ships handle in Supercruise.
It also helped that my raw materials bin was overflowing due to enjoying flyving the SRV, and prospecting on planets as part of a group effort to plumb the secrets of the Stellar Forge… at least until Frontier moved that function to the detailed surface scanner.
Fun fact, some of my G4s, thanks to random rolls, were actually better than many G5s, and some G3s better than many G4s, and approached G5 quality occasionally. So some of those low quality G5s were stored to be used in new ships, which I started acquiring rapidly post-Passengers, once income inflation reached ridiculous levels. It also helped that the Diamondback Explorer (and before that, the Asp Explorer) shares a FSD size with so many medium and several large ships, so when I acquired a new ship, I always had a G5 (or occasional super-G4) FSD waiting, along with power plants, weapons, shields, etc. It’s a trend that continues to this day.
I will admit I never bothered to G5 my thrusters until after the Passengers update, falling short of Prof. Plain’s unlock requirements. My ships had some pretty sweet G3 thrusters, though.
I didn’t need to use spreadsheets or 3rd party apps (aside from consulting coriolis.io occasionally) to implement my strategy. It was simply realizing how the system worked, and utilizing its strengths, rather than frustrate myself with its weaknesses.
I couldn't even make G1 reliably - why would I bother about G3 and G4 when I couldn't even get the basics going?
I guess that’s why I often refer to the “forum recommended” method of engineering (both pre- and post-2.0) as inefficient, the equivalent of passing by a $50 dollar bill on the street because you’re too busy with other things to pay attention to the world around you.
Ohhh god no
to get there ( 1000000ls and 2 seconds to get there ) .Surely the relogging is optional, unless one wishes to 'grind'?
Here’s why I preferred the old spawn system. Traveling above the orbital plane is much faster vs traveling straight to your destination, as well as much less prone to interdictions (player or NPC). Most mission destinations were far enough from the primary to guarantee at least one HGE would spawn. And when one did spawn, it would always be along your flight path, so no need to divert.Ohhh god no
the above the orbital plane and go out X amounts of ls at a slow speed and then one might pop up ? I prefer the new system . At least I know that the HGE is there but I may not be quick enough
With up to 50 or more required pieces of G5 manufactured materials required to max a ship out it's not really optional if you want to get anything done in a timely manner, especially not with a large fleet of ships that you all want to engineer.
Oh, I'll remember that - I appear to have done exceptionally well without relogging, and in a timely manner... I guess the key word is 'timely' though, some might consider today to be timely, others 'soon'.
With a grapple attached, of course!What feature i hope will be refreshed:
Front end of the sidewinder, make that winch and cable work
