So what? The engine is capable to AI wingmen and NPC crew but they're not in the game. Pauses in the change from SC to Normal space to planetary services are not seamless.
I'll quote myself here
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So what? The engine is capable to AI wingmen and NPC crew but they're not in the game. Pauses in the change from SC to Normal space to planetary services are not seamless.
I'll quote myself here
No, it's not (at least not right now). Seamless is expected to mean continuous. But as we see today an instance must be formed for the game to continue which breaks the continuity big time. And this is where big pauses occur for many. This is what the Cobra engine does today.
What you've done is used FDev's clever marketing words saying "yeah, it's seamless" as in the player doesn't have to do anything for the game to continue (instances are formed for them same as the seamless hyper-jumping). But it's not continuous as players expect and want. Players want continuous flight transitioning from space to the planet surface which Elite never will likely provide due to it's P2P / instancing design.
When servers and bandwidth are doing fine I have seamless planetary landings, no pauses. Ergo there are seamless planetary landings in ED. If you experience them all the time is a different matter, there is a thread about it.
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You can go from planetary surface to space using normal flight. It's seamless. Even when using SC, pauses only happen due to server load and bandwidth (IF they happen...).
https://youtu.be/jUGFlDCiJB0?t=80
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That's interesting because I recently saw a video of NMS :x and it didn't look any more seamless than ED...
I guess we will just have to wait till next week to see if NMS is as good as the hype makes out it is.
You're putting yourself a smaller and smaller box there. It's only "seamless" at certain periods... when the moon is full and everyone in the world is asleep.
Nope, not even then. Even when I play at 0300 in the morning, and the servers having a good day... even when there pause to load is really really small... there's a noticeable transition. IT's seamless the same way this is seamless.
AGain, I get that the engine is capable of being seamless, but due to design decisions it's not.
I see the pause or sync pause as a transition from SC warp space to normal, which is what it primarly is. The pause can be explained with time effects due to the warping of space and time coming to an end. That is how I see it, so it doesn't bother me. And the Cobra Engine is capable of seemless planetary landing right know if the game wasn't multiplayer or if you fly from station to planet or planet to planet.
Take a look at the video I added to my last post.
Not for me at the moment. I am out exploring and it is seamless, without any pause at all.
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That's interesting because I recently saw a video of NMS :x and it didn't look any more seamless than ED...
I guess we will just have to wait till next week to see if NMS is as good as the hype makes out it is.
I haven't seen it and I doubt I will play it either. Graphics look pretty bad to me.
Let's put that example into context? A few lines of text on a screen, as a solution to a problem whereby no one knew where to look for materials without rediculous amounts of effort.
In truth it was a bug fix to a problem of their own making
And we know (you're familiar with this
) there's more interesting approaches to that same issue, which add more depth, and even head towards the image of mining DBOBE gave at kickstarter time. ie: You'd be able to go out and discover and utilise stateful mining resources. eg - https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...antity/page8?p=4007154&viewfull=1#post4007154
Will we get mechanics like that? Because in over a year those sort of areas really haven't progressed at all.
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2 problems
1) While this is possible, it doesn't represent the experience of myself or a number of other here.
2) December 15, is a long time ago, transition have gotten worse
3) EVEN this has a seam, the droop from SC to NS is noticeable.
I frikken hate to do this, but this is seamless
[video=youtube;X5XSiww9ZO4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5XSiww9ZO4[/video]
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And you get the same in NMS
Not sure if this has been tried to know for sure - in theory yes.
I know that system to system is definitely not possible because at the new location nothing is there until you hit the hyperspace button (was done during Alpha prior to FD adding in fuel).
Possibly, I don't know. Doesn't seem to be @ 30 sec
[video=youtube;Ff5-44qTjC8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ff5-44qTjC8[/video]
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Let's put that example into context? A few lines of text on a screen, as a solution to a problem whereby no one new where to look for materials without rediculous amounts of effort.
In truth it was a bug fix to a problem of their own making
And we know (you're familiar with this
http://i.imgur.com/C7T6koq.gif
Will we get mechanics like that? Because in over a year those sort of areas really haven't progressed at all.
THIS!!! this is what I've been hoping for!
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is this in the beta yet? if so i may have to fire up as it was not in there last time i looked
if it is then fab, as it does look good, if it isnt then, untill i see it with my own eyes I will always be a little worried after seeing vertical slices of play in watchdogs and Alien CM!
Back when I was playing I never experienced it being seamless when landing or when popping out of SC at a station, this also happened in solo.
Sometimes it got close, but the pause was always there.
I dont know if anyone has watched any of the NMS leaks, now THAT is seamless.
Sometimes it got close, but the pause was always there.
I dont know if anyone has watched any of the NMS leaks, now THAT is seamless.
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Apparently soon. I'm skeptical myself, but it does APPEAR to be good.
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I only have a 16.000 connection, but in 40% of the drops from supercruise to planets there is nothing but a tiny hickup, before continuing into glide. 100% would be nice, but this is no game changer for me. Hyperjumps are more laggy for me, but also not always. I am sure networking will improve over time and the seams will become more seamless. And long gone are the times, where a drop could take 10 minutes or so. At least for me.
That's just a development build. This is seamless as well:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jE7UhIyRnA
Yes, that is seamless. But that's now what gamers experience. Oh, but I wish that it was.