That would actually be quite cool.
What's with all the guys using female avatars?
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That would actually be quite cool.
Pretty much this. It's all eye candy. I almost made a female Holo Me, but I was already invested in the male version I had made in beta so he won the coin flip.
Honestly I don't understand why people are hung up on "gender" of a piece of a 2D holo image. Even if they were real though, it's an incredibly silly thing to be bothered about.
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Brett C
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This for me as well. I have two accounts, and both RP female characters (mother and daughter as it happens). "Juniper" (my main) is the character I RP in every game that gives me the option. I started writing some backstory for the "daughter", which is then intertwined with the mother, and it's growing to the point of becoming a short story / novella.
I can't really imagine RPing a bloke. For me, that would just feel weird.
Juniper:
Her somewhat rebellious and angry daughter:
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What's with all the girls using male avatars? 
Odd how that usually never comes up whenever this topic is mentioned.
It's just a game after all, it's nice to have the option for players to make the characters they want.
Odd how that usually never comes up whenever this topic is mentioned.It's just a game after all, it's nice to have the option for players to make the characters they want.
Heh, I'm not surprised this has come up again.
As a gaymer, I'm still befuddled by straight players finding titillation by using female avatars. (I don't have any problem with people role-playing as a different gender. FemShep was my Shep.) When I use a male avatar, that avatar is me. Sure, it might not look like me, but I'm playing as that character. Staring at my avatar's rear end would be too much like staring at my own; it's hard to separate the two in anything approaching an RPG. Maybe it's just easier to separate for straight guys because the avatar is a different gender.
It's likely a lack of imagination on my part, but I'm still a bit confused.
As a gaymer, I'm still befuddled by straight players finding titillation by using female avatars. (I don't have any problem with people role-playing as a different gender. FemShep was my Shep.) When I use a male avatar, that avatar is me. Sure, it might not look like me, but I'm playing as that character. Staring at my avatar's rear end would be too much like staring at my own; it's hard to separate the two in anything approaching an RPG. Maybe it's just easier to separate for straight guys because the avatar is a different gender.
It's likely a lack of imagination on my part, but I'm still a bit confused.
Nah, its a fantasy (it is!!)world, really and people can pose to their hearts delight That's why we play, seriously, I will only ever fly a paper plane Wheter CMDR's want to do that as male or female avatars does not bother me in any way, are they bothered that Cmdr willi and I, are "Natural Born Pigs" if they are, tough luck Cmdr's and Comdrette's (just made that up )
As some have pointed out in another thread, there seems to be a move towards a more androgynous look, which is a shame, I think, but it happened before, Anyone remember Twiggy ? Hmm I guess not.
But of course a really "hot" avatar might just divert the attention of the the predators for just a sec...
Cheers Cmdr's
That's why we play, seriously, I will only ever fly a paper plane Wheter CMDR's want to do that as male or female avatars does not bother me in any way, are they bothered that Cmdr willi and I, are "Natural Born Pigs" if they are, tough luck Cmdr's and Comdrette's (just made that up )As some have pointed out in another thread, there seems to be a move towards a more androgynous look, which is a shame, I think, but it happened before, Anyone remember Twiggy ? Hmm I guess not.
But of course a really "hot" avatar might just divert the attention of the the predators for just a sec...
Cheers Cmdr's
In that case, take Keira Knightley.
Why is it even something to raise a fuss about?
It's the internet and people need attention - even if they have to generate it themselves.
Bless the creators for Solo mode.
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You're not wrong, but... personally, I don't think you're reflecting what's actually going in on these conversations. It's about gender essentialism, but since (male) society doesn't know how to talk about it and is heteronormative, the conversations always end up coded as being about sexuality.
This guy (the OP) is probably a gender essentialist. (I'll assume male here, but doesn't need to be... and I'm about to make some more serious assumptions for the sake of making a point.) His biological sex is male, he's probably considered cisgender, but moreover he actually experiences maleness. He has an actual 'gender identity', in the way that not all men do. Imagining roleplaying a female character in a game is a bit dysphoric. (Calling it gender dysphoria is a bit like calling an itch 'agony', but you see what I'm getting at.)
A lot of other people don't really experience essential gender identity in the same way, I think. And it's sort of this hidden divide, and a pretty damaging one. Because... take trans people. Kind of by definition, they actually have gender identities. They experience dysphoria 24/7 in their own bodies because the gender identity they experience ain't the body they're in. And because we don't really know how to say "hey, about half (maybe) of people experience gender identity and half don't", trans people are often stuck unable to explain dysphoria to people like me.
Me being someone who has a biological sex, obviously, but doesn't really get the big deal about gender identity. I'll roleplay male characters, female characters, whatever, and it's all the same to me. Gender dysphoria doesn't really make sense to me. But for people like me, it's really tempting to fight back against the first group by really stressing that hey, we're straight, obviously we like looking at the other sex.
So... I could be wrong in this instance (maybe some people really do just want a slice of pornography with their gaming... I mean... Tomb Raider), but I think generally when you see a heteronormative argument pop up like this, it's a pre-emptive defence against other imagined heteronormative arguments. It's all about saying "No, I'm straight!" (...arguably, the real problem going on here isn't objectifying women, but in this instance it's the implicit assumption that not being straight is 'less'.)
And to the OP: if you don't really have a strong sense of gender identity, you're probably going to play opposite sex characters quite a bit, even a bit more than half the time. Why a bit more? Because you play a same sex character pretty much your whole life. Both men and women regularly find it 'novel' to play the other sex in games... hence the (rough) truism that all female characters in games are played by men, and all women in games play male characters. Though the second half of that is a lot to do with abuse too.
Ah, well, some of us have ActuallyLookLikeAMutatedCaveman privilege, I guess.
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TLDR most of the thread but:
I often use female avatars in games for various reasons:
1) The male avatars in most games tend to have this rugged bodybuilder look, which feels more out of place for me than the female avatars. Elite isn't very bad in this regard, but still in VR the female avatar feels like a closer match (as long as I don't look down at "my" chest).
2) In multiplayer games making it harder for other players to determine the real gender of the player may help prevent gender discrimination.
3) I don't always want to play as "me", and if I play as a fictional character, why not female. Gender generally doesn't play a major role in games where it can be selected.
I often use female avatars in games for various reasons:
1) The male avatars in most games tend to have this rugged bodybuilder look, which feels more out of place for me than the female avatars. Elite isn't very bad in this regard, but still in VR the female avatar feels like a closer match (as long as I don't look down at "my" chest).
2) In multiplayer games making it harder for other players to determine the real gender of the player may help prevent gender discrimination.
3) I don't always want to play as "me", and if I play as a fictional character, why not female. Gender generally doesn't play a major role in games where it can be selected.
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Ahh not all women though, and that is also quite shallow. I tend to play as a virtual self so I make a male character in games.
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Old trollbait is still old. Try harder, OP.
It's a first-person game.
I've never understood why people find it strange that some straight guys like to create female avatars.
They are straight guys so why would they want to spend their gaming time looking at a male character? This is especially true when playing a third person game. Makes sense to me that a guy is perfectly happy watching the butt of a female character rather than watching the butt of a male character.
Whilst some people claim to be confused about this issue, I have to wonder if they might actually in truth be confused about something else entirely...
It's a first-person game and nice "you must be gay" jab there, real classy, lost a lot of respect for you there.
You're just a weirdo.
You know, when you put it like that... I'd frown heavily on any straight male, that prefers looking for hours at the butt of a burly dude, than that of a round curvaceous female one..
It's a first-person game.
It's a first-person game.
It's a first-person game.
It's a first-person game. And your bum never leaves your chair anyway.
I'm sure you can but it's a first-person game.
It's a first-person game.
It's a first-person game.
Jesus Christ
When I was an EVE pilot, my corp IC explained to me that "People make pretty characters of their preferred sex because they want to look at someone they find sexually attractive without feeling guilty".
I thought "Ah, that explains why my toon is friendshipdriving gorgeous then"
It's a first-person game.
It's a first-person game.
It's a first-person game.
It's a first-person game.
It's a 3D game. Especially in VR.
It's a first-person game.
It's a first-person game.
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