When are geological/biological sites etc going to be back in Odyssey?

I think there seems to be a disconnect with Elite Frontier management and the community, "oh that's confused some people lets change it" thinking its better, but that goes into knowing this is pretty much an extended beta test...

I have only found one bio so far, on a planet claiming it had two. I can safely say overflying areas which were still blue contained nothing at all for quite a few km's...

Geo's should be be something we can enter into the codex?

The one you cant find will be bacteria, they are hard to find, you need to be on the ground to find them. Yes you can enter geo into codex but it only gives you a planet name and not a location, use the scanner either on the SRV or ship to scan them to codex, you can do the same with bio if you don't want to sample them.
 
So wait, WHY did Frontier turn the heatmaps into binary overlays??!??!!

Heatmaps were one of the only things I genuinely LIKED about the EDO content, and now they removed that completely? WHY, because it was actual good content for explorers but we can't have that now can we!!!!?!?!? It was even working well from what I've read!!?!? o_O
 
I have to say that the bumped up level of biologicals was better in Alpha. You had variety in the patches of plants. You had closer clusters of plants.
I don't know why someone thought the heat map was confusing. My only gripe was everything was green sometimes. It wasn't confusing.
 
The one you cant find will be bacteria, they are hard to find, you need to be on the ground to find them. Yes you can enter geo into codex but it only gives you a planet name and not a location, use the scanner either on the SRV or ship to scan them to codex, you can do the same with bio if you don't want to sample them.
You're one of the few so far consistently finding them, got any tips? :)
 
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In other words: We are not fixing it, you are stuck with it. We paint every planet blue with 5% of "not here", look for yourself
"it was causing confusion", you mean, like having different gradient of blue that look like a heatmap ?

But then it's from the same people who thought having raw metals for engineering in biological site was intuitive.
 
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All I want, right now, is for someone to look at the 2 pictures above, and indicate on them where I am most likely to find Volcanic Activity......because I landed at several locations on this planet, and drove around in my SRV for nearly an hour in total, and found not a thing-even though the DSS map suggests there is volcanic activity almost EVERYWHERE.
 
"it was causing confusion", you mean, like having different gradient of blue that look like a heatmap ?

But then it's from the same people who thought having raw metals for engineering in biological site was intuitive.

The only way it was "confusing", IMO, was due to the fact that the Heat Map wasn't working for Volcanic regions, because the planetary tech hadn't yet been finalized. They made a snap judgement made on horribly incomplete data.....though that hardly surprises me.
 
You're one of the few so far consistently finding them, got any tips? :)

I'll run through my process here, as I said earlier for the most part with bacteria alone I wouldn't bother because it is time consuming, but here we go;

First I find a nearby planet with bacteria only, the location map is actually atypical for bacteria, it's usually full coverage so this may have been a different bio, but it did indeed turn out to be bacteria, I'll hide pictures with spoilers, there's a few of them;

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The first thing I do is have a quick look around just in case I am lucky enough to land right near some, but no luck after circling ship I go to the SRV method. I don't know exactly what they look like yet so that's the best option. I'll just point out I landed in a flattish spot so I could do this, mountains aren't any good for hunting bacteria! I drive along slowly gently swinging from side to side but maintaining a roughly straight line until the composition scanner gives a momentary blip then back up a bit so it stays lit, that's my first sample, running the composition scanner tells me it's Bacteria Teela Green and gives me 50k credits codex reward;

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So I grab my first sample and note what it looks like, it's a lighter grey patch on the yellow sand, that will help a lot as I go;

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Now bacteria usually appear in clumps of a few at a time so I look around and find a couple more but they are all to close to my first sample to count.

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This is what my target looks like, so I can scan visually as I drive, I need to get a bit of distance, my second target and a few others a distance away, but to close to the second to scan, so I drive on after these few, stopping every now and then to get out of the SRV at a high spot and jump as high as possible while looking around;

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Now here's where I think something is going wrong, I had to drive many klms to get my third, it used to be around 300mtrs, but even at distances of a klm or more I still couldn't scan a third target, this one must be some 10klms from my first scan, you can see it in the picture. They did mention making some changes in distances for the bio scans, but I think they overdid it because this took me way longer than it should have, I needed go past several good scan candidates to get my full sample scan;

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So that's how I did it, if it helps that's good!
 
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All I want, right now, is for someone to look at the 2 pictures above, and indicate on them where I am most likely to find Volcanic Activity......because I landed at several locations on this planet, and drove around in my SRV for nearly an hour in total, and found not a thing-even though the DSS map suggests there is volcanic activity almost EVERYWHERE.

That's where a heatmap that indicates a higher concentration would be useful.
 
All my heatmaps are just pure blue without any variance no matter what filter I'm using, have I missed something obvious or is this a bug? ..rather frustratingly makes exobiology and materials gathering more or less impractical. For instance, same planet scanned by Conflictx. :unsure:
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exactly the same for me...allthough, this screenshot kills it haha, mine are like 60% to 80% blue, changing filters does nothing, tried to land a couple times to find something, gave up after a while...it is a mess

i really was looking forward to play odyssey, right now...getting kicked every 2 minutes, i think ill give it a try with "old" horizons again, if that turns out to be messy and buggy ill call it...

so sad
 
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Is there a place where it keeps track of what biologicals I can find on the planet and witch ones I have already scanned?
 
Is there a place where it keeps track of what biologicals I can find on the planet and witch ones I have already scanned?

Not really unless you use a third party tool, but they haven't been updated for Odyssey yet so I don't know whether they will give details of bio scans, but they did collect all scans with the composition scanner.
 
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All I want, right now, is for someone to look at the 2 pictures above, and indicate on them where I am most likely to find Volcanic Activity......because I landed at several locations on this planet, and drove around in my SRV for nearly an hour in total, and found not a thing-even though the DSS map suggests there is volcanic activity almost EVERYWHERE.

See I just don't understand. To test I selected a planet at random, a location on the planet at random, hopped in the SRV and drive in a straight line and a less than a minute later found this;

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As you can see around 1.4klm from the ship, a bit more driving I came across some more. Now they were widely scattered here, no bunches of them, just individual features so I think this is an area of low density, both types as well, only two on the body;

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I am actually starting to wonder whether they are actually spawning at all for you! I posted a location on that last planet, Barkan C 2a in this image;

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If they aren't spawning at all for you then you shouldn't be able to see these when you go to those coordinates, that's the only thing I can think because they seem so easy to find for me.
 
See I just don't understand. To test I selected a planet at random, a location on the planet at random, hopped in the SRV and drive in a straight line and a less than a minute later found this;

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As you can see around 1.4klm from the ship, a bit more driving I came across some more. Now they were widely scattered here, no bunches of them, just individual features so I think this is an area of low density, both types as well, only two on the body;

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I am actually starting to wonder whether they are actually spawning at all for you! I posted a location on that last planet, Barkan C 2a in this image;

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If they aren't spawning at all for you then you shouldn't be able to see these when you go to those coordinates, that's the only thing I can think because they seem so easy to find for me.

Yet I landed in half a dozen locations across the planet I posted that pic of, in the areas marked in blue (which was the entire planet, btw) and drove around for ages looking for that distinctive SRV Wave Scanner signal. Didn't find a single thing. Like I said, just show me on that picture where you'd EXPECT to find Volcanic Activity.
 
Yet I landed in half a dozen locations across the planet I posted that pic of, in the areas marked in blue (which was the entire planet, btw) and drove around for ages looking for that distinctive SRV Wave Scanner signal. Didn't find a single thing. Like I said, just show me on that picture where you'd EXPECT to find Volcanic Activity.

Well the answer is everywhere because no matter where I land in the blue I find volcanic features. I would expect in some areas to find more than others, a denser congregation of volcanic features. So far I have never failed to quickly find features, which is why I am puzzled and wondering whether they are spawning for you at all.
 
Well the answer is everywhere because no matter where I land in the blue I find volcanic features. I would expect in some areas to find more than others, a denser congregation of volcanic features. So far I have never failed to quickly find features, which is why I am puzzled and wondering whether they are spawning for you at all.

You inadvertantly highlighted yet another major problem with the Overlay system they gave us. The monochrome blue tells us NOTHING about the size/quality of the volcanics or biologicals you are going to find. Were it not for the lack of the distinctive Wave Scanner sound, I might begin to wonder if I had run across some "volcanics", & just mistaken them for ordinary rocks.
Either way, they should never have removed the heat map without testing it in the live game for a couple of weeks first, to be sure claims of "confusion" were actually valid.
That said, looking at Exploration game-play as a whole, I feel like Odyssey has delivered the "Minimum Viable Product" yet again.
 
You inadvertantly highlighted yet another major problem with the Overlay system they gave us. The monochrome blue tells us NOTHING about the size/quality of the volcanics or biologicals you are going to find. Were it not for the lack of the distinctive Wave Scanner sound, I might begin to wonder if I had run across some "volcanics", & just mistaken them for ordinary rocks.
Either way, they should never have removed the heat map without testing it in the live game for a couple of weeks first, to be sure claims of "confusion" were actually valid.
That said, looking at Exploration game-play as a whole, I feel like Odyssey has delivered the "Minimum Viable Product" yet again.

There seems to be a disconnect between parts of the community and fdev, one example was the twitch based bio scanner, not sure if this was made worse by Covid, but it may have always been there.

You probably did miss things too, really need to fly around the planet or drive with the composition scanner active and look for it to blip.

I literally ran over a bacterial because it looked like it belonged to the surface, only realised it was something worth investigating when the comp scanner did that blip.

I am having issues uploading bacteria, but they appear as circles on the ground and quite easy to miss.
 
There seems to be a disconnect between parts of the community and fdev, one example was the twitch based bio scanner, not sure if this was made worse by Covid, but it may have always been there.

You probably did miss things too, really need to fly around the planet or drive with the composition scanner active and look for it to blip.

I literally ran over a bacterial because it looked like it belonged to the surface, only realised it was something worth investigating when the comp scanner did that blip.

I am having issues uploading bacteria, but they appear as circles on the ground and quite easy to miss.

That makes sense for the Bacterial Colonies, but not for Fumeroles, Vents & Geysers. Any way you cut it, Odyssey's exploration game-play is pretty rubbish IMHO. A serious backwards step, which saddens me deeply.
 
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