S.O.P.: check Inara for best sell locations for (whatever I plan to mine); Load limpets and go mining; finish mining then go back to Inara again and check best sell locations; fly there and make lots of credits. Bottom line: high end mineral prices change constantly. During the hour to 1.5 hours it takes me to mine the best minerals, the sell locations change. This may not be realistic enough for some but it is what it is. GL HF
When is VOID OPAL nerf coming?
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The amount of time is stuff all compared to other activities and their respective payouts. Overall prices could be halved and it'd still be a superior money spinner.
But again, overall prices are not being nerfed, just the case where a market is flooded.
Really? So, then tell me why NPC ships transport water or any other incredibly low profit item?
Thanks for the info. So it would seem that mining in general is getting a nerf?
.... what?
Genuinely, I don't understand your question. Did you leave out a word or something?
If you mean "Why do NPC ships transport water or any other incredibly low-profit item?"... because they're high-demand-volume, stable trade items, maybe?
If you mean ""Why don't NPC ships transport water or any other incredibly low-profit item?"... see above. They do transport low-value items, frequently. It's worth noting, profit margins on things like Water, Biowaste, can be up to 700cr and is relatively stable, compared to Palladium, which is much less stable, and the margins can degrade as low as 200cr, if not a loss.
But regardless, NPC trade ships don't affect the galaxy or it's markets. Markets are influenced entirely by player activity and BGS states.
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IKR, now you can only make 100m an hour on them, what's a credit farmer to do?I have fond memories of the nerf to passenger missions.
With all of the "Really Broke" stuff in the game, why in Zeus' __hole are we "adjusting" mining? And the folks saying it's not a nerf, keep drinking the Koolaid. Been playing since release and lived through many "not nerfing" statements that were rubbish. Besides, when was the last patch where stuff was changed that didn't break other stuff, or just not work at all? That's right been over a year. Fleet carriers were delayed to FIX things, not "adjust" things currently working. I grinded out 40 bil on each of my accounts, so don't flipping care in that regard. Just seems so typical they waste time and energy on things that don't need fix'n. No salt, just the truth. We will see when the patch is released. My money is on mining will be nerfed, intended or unintended, ending the nice gravy train we have enjoyed. If I am wrong, I will admit it and eat humble pie. Not thinking I will taste that pie though.
What possible use do you think you will have for that much money?
I mean if getting it was fun I could understand it but most people don’t refer to fun activities as a grind.
Whether you would call it a nerf or not is up to you but the intention is AIUI that stations that only want a handful of any core mined product will no longer be stupid enough to pay over the odds for it but stations that actually need them will still pay more.
It is supposed to be all the materials that were introduced with core mining, Painite and LTD pre date Core mining and already have supply and demand pricing.
No exploit, just the correct combination of system states.
A.C.Clarke's first law of the BGS : Any sufficiently advanced BGS is indistinguishable from magic.
By effort you mean looking up alternative sell sites on a web page like everybody already do?
Or just understanding what causes good prices. I find that much easier.
3 days is the maximum length for Pirate Attack, so on this tick the prices must drop to about half...
...right on schedule
Wish I'd seen this thread about an hour earlier, really.
Depending on how the demand effects pricing, that's probably going to be the worst possible way to find good sell prices, since anywhere they recommend will quickly become saturated, and anywhere that's got enough player traffic to have recently-updated prices is going to be saturated even quicker...
Knowing how to find them without that? That'll be where the big profits are.
Knowing enough about what causes the pricing to be able to predict where the next high price will be and be sitting in the docking bay ready with a full hold of Void Opals for when it suddenly jumps upwards? Exceptionally big profits are possible.
I mean, it's three different system states. That's as close to magic as it can be.
Jokes aside, I wish I could say I can predict system states like Gandalf Doncaster.
Correct, it might lead to sites getting saturated faster. But there are two factors here you are not considering.
Time - If you spend a lot of time finding a good sale place to earn a higher sale price - that time is lost farming. Earning a lot of money quick is not only about highest sale price, it is about efficiency.
Number of people - The sites have a lot more people reporting in compared to you alone or your squadron. Finding a rare high price sell site which those people have not already found is going to take a lot more time, which leads to loss of time farming.
Just jumping from station to station hoping to find one will indeed not work out very well, no matter how big your squadron is. You need to know before you set off.
But there are much smarter ways to use the big data sets that EDDB and similar provide to work out where undocumented good prices might be now, or where good prices will be tomorrow, or where a good price could be encouraged to show up in a couple of weeks time.
Obviously anyone who does build a data analysis tool to do this will keep it to themselves or their friends because making it public knowledge will defeat the point. Some hints, for people who want to try:
- think carefully about the difference between system and station data in EDDN
- think especially carefully about the behaviour of Pirate Attack
- be prepared to collect (and store) a lot of EDDN data over several months to detect patterns
It can take 7-10 hours to get 576 void opals... It's not a fast process. It drains you and makes you not want to play the game anymore. It's not unbalanced. Have you ever mined a full cargo of void opals?
Everyone has use for the money. It's a play style thing. Get in do stuff come out sell. It's very time consuming. But in the end it pays out and you can play other things. If that doesn't exist there is no point in mining. And people couldn't play how they wanted.
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Fighting an opposed war for a week makes Voipals look like a childs effort. And you'll walk away with a pittance by comparison. It's simply not a valid reason for the exorbitant payout, unless you want to make the case for equal pay for equal effort.
And then there's exploration...
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