When you don't log in because you remember there is more grinding to do...

[WR3ND]

Big boys just play the game, and don't feel the need to get all the latest gadgets jest because they are there and other people have them. They are not essential for funtimes.

If you'd have been going on the expedition last year - before the toys came out - you'd had participated in the expedition and had fun, without having engineer/guardian tech. What's changed?

Why is 10LY extra jump range essential to participation anyway? If it because you hate jumping and want to reduce it by 30%, then maybe the expedition isn't really the thing for you anyway?

Not that the Engineer unlock and G5 FSD are much of a chore. an evening or two of play perhaps, when mixed with other activities?

It's just so I can get it out to Beagle Point. I go exploring in my Vulture most of the time I'm playing the game, so that's the main reason I want to take it along for this, even though there are better suited ships, of course.

All my ships have G5 FSDs already, but to get my Vulture up to the needed distance, I have to max it out. So while I'm out getting the stuff for it, I decided I might as well get enough for all my ships.

The situation seems kind of funny to me, in a way, doing this to myself. I'll more than likely get back at it soon enough, though the prospects aren't very appealing.

...

Oh, as for hanging with the big boys, I'm not sure how people can fully upgrade their ships with the Engineers for things like the PVP meta and so on. Not sure I'd ever get there, even if I wanted to.

 

[Rafe Zetter]

I probably should have never set my goals on taking my Vulture, The Ronin on Distant Worlds 2. Now I must get all the stuff to upgrade its FSD sufficiently for my goals, which involve doing the same thing over and over and over and over again. Now I hear of the Guardian module FSDs through the grapevine...

Am I kidding myself? This isn't the game I signed up for, but if I want to pretend to hang with the big boys, this is what I must deal with. There isn't a better way other than just giving up the ghost and taking my Cobra or the like. If you want to hang, you have to put in the work, but that isn't really why I play this game.

It's my choice, and I know it, but knowing the option is there, I'm driven to want to achieve it. The cost, however, seems to be more than I'm willing to stomach, so I'm at a bit of a loss. Maybe I just don't have what it takes.

I haven't been able to bring myself to login in more than a month. This isn't the game I wanted to play.

What a strange predicament I find myself in.

This is the hook games use to devour your soul - ED moreso than others.

 

[Robin of Spiritwood]

1) fly the Vulture to a HiRez
2) get bounties for an hour
3) buy a T6, hauler or DBX
4) D rate all the things, except the FSD
5) borrow a G5 A rated FSD from another ship
- all Done!

 

[Rafe Zetter]

Wr3nd, have you also noticed how there's now a complete lack of ingame community events announced in the forum? I don't mean CG's or major events like DWII, I mean the SRV races, the meet n greets - the epic tales like Bomba Luigi's rescue - people just derping around and asking to meet people "coz reasons".

I've not seen one of those for a logn time, if I said a year I doubt I'd be far off.

When was the last buckyball run?

Seems most of that "emergent content" created by enthusiatic community members has all but died out?

 

[Penny Umbra]

That stuff hasn't all gone Rafe. It's just been moved to a different part of the forum, where it's harder to find. https://forums.frontier.co.uk/forumdisplay.php/100-Community-Events-Media-amp-Creations

 

[BigBANGtheory [VR]]

Take a break... Go play something else... Come back when Beyond Chapter 2 releases.

Yeah that's good advice and pretty much where I am at.

 

[CMDR Harada]

100% in agreement with OP.

Haven't had the will to log in and play for 6 months. I drop in, look at the boards... think about it doing something else... and then log out.

 

[Kilostream]

100% in agreement with OP.

Haven't had the will to log in and play for 6 months. I drop in, look at the boards... think about it doing something else... and then log out.

I always find it interesting that so many people that have quit the game, still feel the need to drip on the forums about it, months later.

Play the game or don't, dude!

 

[Red Anders]

I probably should have never set my goals on taking my Vulture, The Ronin on Distant Worlds 2. Now I must get all the stuff to upgrade its FSD sufficiently for my goals, which involve doing the same thing over and over and over and over again. Now I hear of the Guardian module FSDs through the grapevine...

Am I kidding myself? This isn't the game I signed up for, but if I want to pretend to hang with the big boys, this is what I must deal with. There isn't a better way other than just giving up the ghost and taking my Cobra or the like. If you want to hang, you have to put in the work, but that isn't really why I play this game.

It's my choice, and I know it, but knowing the option is there, I'm driven to want to achieve it. The cost, however, seems to be more than I'm willing to stomach, so I'm at a bit of a loss. Maybe I just don't have what it takes.

I haven't been able to bring myself to login in more than a month. This isn't the game I wanted to play.

What a strange predicament I find myself in.

I have to say that of all the possible 'grinds' that the game presents, if you're honestly only looking at engineering an FSD and it prompts that reaction you should probably give the rest of engineering a very wide berth.

Under both the new and old engineering systems the only thing that presents any difficulty mind-numbing repetition is getting the datamined wake exceptions.

OK a quick trip to Dav's Hope and a few relogs is repetition too but it's 10-15 minutes of a job to collect the chemical processors, distilleries and manipulators you'll need there, either directly or by collecting enough other crap to trade for them. Then you just need to find a planet with phosphorous, manganese and arsenic (not hard) and do a bit of driving - it's not going to take you more than 15-20 minutes to find the arsenic you need and you'll have enough of the other two to fill a boat by the time you've got it.

 

[Spacecat]

Sounds like you created your own problem. I'd just take my DBX instead.

 

[Pendergast]

I've been to nearly all the known nebulae in our quadrant of the galaxy in my Vulture, and yet dealing with the Engineers is making me second guess my play style choices for something which many people seem to do much more proficiently. Guardian tech? What what? My goodness...

There's plenty of time, but my motivation is waning. We'll see how it goes, and I'll more than likely pull it together, but honestly, this isn't my style of play.

Thanks for letting me vent a bit here. I really only have myself to blame for this, I suppose, though I do somewhat question the gameplay methodology behind it. On the other hand, many others seem to have a much better time of it than I do. I'm just not as driven for this sort of thing.

Everyone different. The 5k to Palin nearly made me uninstall and took me a week to do. But I have fully engineered to G5 over 10 ships, then I did it again when 3.0 dropped. Don't find it a grind at all.

 

[DeathStroke]

Right there with ya OP. Saw the new 'puzzle' and modules, thought I'd give 'em a try. Did the 'puzzle' (FD, you suck at puzzles btw, either too hard or too easy, no middle ground), got a pathetic amount of materials, calculated how many times I would need to grind the 'puzzle', and said 'F that!', and started up a different game. Haven't played ED in weeks, have no intention of playing ED until the Q2 patch hits.

 

[Yosharian]

I probably should have never set my goals on taking my Vulture, The Ronin on Distant Worlds 2. Now I must get all the stuff to upgrade its FSD sufficiently for my goals, which involve doing the same thing over and over and over and over again. Now I hear of the Guardian module FSDs through the grapevine...

Am I kidding myself? This isn't the game I signed up for, but if I want to pretend to hang with the big boys, this is what I must deal with. There isn't a better way other than just giving up the ghost and taking my Cobra or the like. If you want to hang, you have to put in the work, but that isn't really why I play this game.

It's my choice, and I know it, but knowing the option is there, I'm driven to want to achieve it. The cost, however, seems to be more than I'm willing to stomach, so I'm at a bit of a loss. Maybe I just don't have what it takes.

I haven't been able to bring myself to login in more than a month. This isn't the game I wanted to play.

What a strange predicament I find myself in.

Youre using a Vulture to go exploring? Seriously?

 

[Brrokk]

I always find it interesting that so many people that have quit the game, still feel the need to drip on the forums about it, months later.

Play the game or don't, dude!

This. It's some weird kind of obsession. I never post on the forums of games I don't play.

 

[-VR- Max Factor]

I probably should have never set my goals on taking my Vulture, The Ronin on Distant Worlds 2. Now I must get all the stuff to upgrade its FSD sufficiently for my goals, which involve doing the same thing over and over and over and over again. Now I hear of the Guardian module FSDs through the grapevine...

Am I kidding myself? This isn't the game I signed up for, but if I want to pretend to hang with the big boys, this is what I must deal with. There isn't a better way other than just giving up the ghost and taking my Cobra or the like. If you want to hang, you have to put in the work, but that isn't really why I play this game.

It's my choice, and I know it, but knowing the option is there, I'm driven to want to achieve it. The cost, however, seems to be more than I'm willing to stomach, so I'm at a bit of a loss. Maybe I just don't have what it takes.

I haven't been able to bring myself to login in more than a month. This isn't the game I wanted to play.

What a strange predicament I find myself in.

I wouldn't bother with the Guardian module if I were you. Totally no needed. You have plenty of time for DW2 (i'm going too) and I intend to bring a Krait if its any good. I will have to engineer it as much as possible, but I still won't grind for it. I will carry on playing how I usually play. Plenty of time to upgrade the ship in bits and pieces. As long as my FSD is grade 5 (and that i probably one of the easiest to get), that is all I need.

Basically take your time, don't rush, enjoy the journey as much as you can. Try to combine activities too.

 

[Navigare Necesse Est]

This. It's some weird kind of obsession. I never post on the forums of games I don't play.

Nor do I. But Elite is different.

 

[lokvette]

Nor do I. But Elite is different.

I dont even post on some forums I do play.

I logged in about 3 days back to back last week, got a bit closer to the bubble, but i've not really played since last October. I haven't quit ED as NNE says its Elite, It's in my bones love or hate the game, and at the moment we are "on a break" but I still come here near on every day, emm maybe it is some kind of obsession is there a doctor in the house.

 

[S3B4ST13N]

I haven't been able to bring myself to login in more than a month. This isn't the game I wanted to play.

Absolutely agree.
I knew some expectations wouldn't be met at launch; I was okay with that, and I'm willing to wait for them (legs/atmo/rare alien pelt hunting).
But the grind for everything just threw me off. I don't want instant-gratification, but I do want gratification for my efforts which I don't get. The effort/reward ratio is really poor in ED, IMHO. It's simply not fun for me.

To me, all the grind in ED is busywork. Nothing more. It's busywork to cover up the fact there's really not much in the game yet. ED needed at least another year or two in development before release (it honestly felt like a rush job; an MVP they needed to get out to make some money as quickly as possible).

I'm patient, I have hopes - but, as of right now... "This isn't the game I wanted to play."

 

[NeilF]

I hit this point a good while ago. I realised I was just earning CRs and Engineering my ship for when (IF) the game added some new content/depth for me to truly enjoy. ie: I was biding my time. The game basically started breaking for me then.

IMHO for 2+ years little depth has been added to the core gameplay. Instead shallow developments have been bolted on, many of which were not even necessary and which after a short amount of time sit collecting dust.

The game mechanic depth I imagined when signing up to the kickstarter is still a thing of fantasy, with only Wings and Planetary Landings showing any sort of glimpse of it. Most other developments have been questionable/wasted/pointless IMHO...

As I've said before, I'd love to know how some of the major developments done over the past two years made it out of meetings to the development department. eg:-

• CQC - How/why did it get greenlit as a stand alone game instead of investment into the core game?
• Generation Ships? - When's the last time you went to one? Did you even get an hours game time out of? Did you even go to one?
• Multicrew - I've posted my thought on this elsewhere - https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...is-now-coming-back-to-bite-ED-in-the-boosters!
• Etc...

I've not signed into the game for ages now... and my last hope I feel is Q4 with FD openly announcing some long over due (bar raising?) core improvements, and a DLC which I'm hoping is some impressive atmospheric landing work.

 

[Navigare Necesse Est]

I gave up with 2.1, but whenever I ask myself to maybe check the other new stuff, I'll think about the engineering overhead and all that deffered grinding I dint do yet and I just don't bother about it anymore.