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If we were invited by Frontier to a meeting to discuss this game like adults, and you went on a big rant about the suits at game companies with their marketing agendas and the "suckers" who buy the DLC and the "UI is a disaster" and it's unfinished and "back in my day" and "Windows NT" and "I'm a computer expert".... Well, I'm sorry but I'd call you out on whining. To your face.
Your comments are based on a lot more than observations. For example, we can't observe young people becoming conditioned to not expecting value for money. You're just taking a swipe at young people. Somehow they're partly responsible for what you believe is a shame of modern software companies. Not like back in the day, of course.
This is a forum about a game, not about our world views and grumpy concerns. I have a few grumpy world views of my own, about some games particularly native apps looking like cheap casino gaming lounges for their in-app gold coin spruiking. But this isn't the place for that. I don't know which post I'm more alarmed at, yours or the one about patch notes in the other thread. I mean... the time spent bashing out these essays could be spent helping new users, or building parks and coasters! Which is where I'm off too now. Good luck, I'm unsubscribing from this thread. [up]
Don't put words in my mouth. I never said young people were responsible for the shame of modern software companies. I said they have been conditioned to accepting pretty much any kind of what I consider to be greedy and unscrupulous behavior by software companies. I'm saying it's not their fault, this is the world they are growing up in.
As for the UI being a disaster, let me ask a few questions.:
Do you believe that the Blueprint filter system is adequate?
Do you like having to type in a keyword in the search box in My Blueprints, and then having to do it again after you close it?
Do you think that in My Blueprints, having 2 subcategories for buildings is adequate, when the game generated blueprints have multiple subcategories, including themes which are conspicuously absent from My Blueprints.
Are you ok with huge dialogs which are mostly blank space taking up 2/3 of the screen?
Are you ok with unmovable dialogs that can't be resized?
If you are ok with all these things, then my argument is not going to affect you. But frankly, I'm not. I expect at least the basic capabilities almost every application made for Windows has.
These aren't things you fix with patches. These are things that should be inherent in the game design from the beginning.
Many people on this forum have stated that in their opinion the game is not finished. I wasn't the first and I probably won't be the last.
And I CAN observe that young people have been conditioned to accept less for their money, because I've been watching the gaming world since it began. Perhaps, I should have said people, but it's been my experience that the younger players are less offended by the way the gaming world cuts corners and basically shafts the public than we older players.
Again, I'm not accusing Frontier of doing this. My comments regarding corporate attitudes was a generality which you should have understood because you are obviously an intelligent person and probably well educated as well. Nobody gets offended if Ubisoft or EA are accused of this behavior. So why is stating what most people are well aware of considered a rant. I never said "I"m sick and tired of" or " this really ❤︎❤︎❤︎❤︎es me off" or anything that might have indicated anger. I was strictly stating my opinion. You call it whining. I call it a criticism. And by the way you missed three very important words in that quote: "seems to be." That indicates an observation. It's an opinion. You can disagree with it, but don't attack me for having it.
I do help other people on other threads. I try to answer their questions, IF I know the answer myself. I do this for other games as well. And I do build parks and coasters, which is why I make the comments I do because I'm constantly running into issues, like those above, that make park design more of a chore than it should be.
If I were to be invited to a meeting with Frontier, I would tell them exactly what I think. I probably wouldn't use the word "disaster" to describe the UI but I certainly would let them know what I think are its shortcomings.
I don't believe I ever used the phrase "back in the day." I try to avoid that particular phrase because of my father's constant "back in my day" lectures.
As for the patch notes. They are basically nonexistent. They tell us they're fixing bugs, but not which ones, so how are we to know what has been fixed? Blizzard, for example, in any game, releases patch notes weeks before the patch is active listing every change made. What we are getting from Frontier qualifies more as press releases than patch notes. Even shareware creators make lists of changes with each update.
You seem to take my comments personally since you don't attack my arguments, but me personally. Did I insult you personally with my criticisms?
Are you one of the developers? Since I haven't seen any responses to any of these criticisms made by others as well, not just me, I doubt it. In fact, I haven't seen Frontier respond to any issues with anything but vague promises and generalities, since the forum began back in alpha, although I admit I haven't read every thread on the forum so they may have elsewhere.\
By the way, do you ever actually plan to challenge my observations or are you just offended because I say them and I am a senior citizen and therefore not worth listening to?
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