"White knights" - come out come out wherever you are!

There is an existing, simple definition. A White Knight defends the indefensible. This is fairly objective & easy to remember.
So it's almost never used 'correctly', at least here.

I was going with how the term is used, and your description hardly ever fits the bill.

The irony in being labeled a white knight often goes like this:

Person A criticizes the game
Person B disagrees with the assessment.
Person A labels person B the White Knight.

The irony is this. Person A blames person B for not being able to handle criticism of the game, while person B just disagrees. But person A is therefore also saying that his criticism of the game is beyond discussion. In other words, those who use the term White Knight are often hypocrites.

Exactly. So no one thinks they are a white knight, even if it is evident to the wider community sleutelbos.
The wider community being a couple of people, namely you and those who agree with you.

By the way, what you describe there is the ad populum fallacy, even if the wider community is broader than you and yours. So you're excusing using a fallacy by means of another one.

Nice rabbit hole. Deep.
 
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So it's almost never used 'correctly', at least here.

I was going with how the term is used, and your description hardly ever fits the bill.

The irony in being labeled a white knight often goes like this:

Person A criticizes the game
Person B disagrees with the assessment.
Person A labels person B the White Knight.

The irony is this. Person A blames person B for not being able to handle criticism of the game, while person B just disagrees. But person A is therefore also saying that his criticism of the game is beyond discussion. In other words, those who use the term White Knight are often hypocrites.


The wider community being a couple of people, namely you and those who agree with you.

By the way, what you describe there is the ad populum fallacy, even if the wider community is broader than you and yours. So you're excusing using a fallacy by means of another one.

Nice rabbit hole. Deep.

So we're all agreed it's a load of tosh then?
 
From what I've seen, terms like "white knight" and even "shill" are simply euphemisms for somebody who disagrees with any criticism of the game.

Happy with supercruise? SHILL!
Think the dev's do their best to give people what they've asked for? WHITE KNIGHT!
Okay with the potential to earn money? SHILL!
Willing to accept the possibility of PvP or piracy? WHITE KNIGHT!

Etc...
 

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So we're all agreed it's a load of tosh then?

And therein lies the problem! I think anyone being rude, personal or overly aggressive whether defending or attacking the game should be warned, and then have their fingers removed so they can't type anymore! If they try and use text to speech, then their tongue is next!
Too harsh? :eek:
 
White Knights was my favourite Grandmaster Flash song :)

'Take it you mean 'White Lines'...or hilarious play on words? Hmmm!

Anyhoooo, to the matter at hand - my favourite thing about 'white knights' is that they take any negative feedback - about a little space ship game - highly personally! Yeah, I know...sounds ridiculous right!?


In response to the alter ego of the much-missed, most creative, influential musician of any generation...very rarely do they provide 'too many good arguments' in response to a critique & conversely, very rarely do the aforementioned criticisms come in the form of 'the game is crap' with no examples or back up.


...& thanks for the inclusion of 'Ad Hominem'...just waiting for 'Straw man' now...then 'Woohoo - BINGO!'


...& Sleuty most definitely isn't a textbook fan-boy/apologist/white knight - like Cmdr M <oh no, you don't get to report me that easily again :D> - nope, he just winds up people through the medium of d̶a̶n̶c̶e̶ passive-aggressive expediency!
 
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Mastering the defensive stance is not enough for chivalric honours imho. A true White Knight must show proper dedication to the cause. Anyone you can't name as predictably taking the opposite stance before clicking on any random critical thread is an amateur at best, and a genuinely debating individual at worst.

Like a Master Troll, a True Knight is a thing of beauty, but there aren't that many about.
 
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