Why do people support this game so heavily??
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I've made fantastic friends in this game and have great fun playing it with them, despite all the bugs and flaws in the game itself. Because of that more than anything else I think, I'm in it for the long haul. Honestly, I enjoy playing it more than any game except Dwarf Fortress at the moment, and that has remained true since late 2016.
@OP
I bought the first Elite game on PC in 1987.
I was still playing it in 1999 when I could finally afford a new computer.
When I heard (around 2012?) they were relaunching it and needed funds, I gladly became a kickstarter supporter and paid a STUPID amount of money just so I could play the game.
You seem to know there's something there that you're not quite getting, so let me tell you, and please don't take offence. None is intended, but this game is not like the others.
5 weeks, you say?
Pah!
It takes years to play this game - at least it should. IMHO they've pandered to the "ME, NOW!" crowd and made it too easy, but then, market forces and all that.
The secret is: you need an imagination, and you need to use it.
No offence, but the year is 3304, the place is the Milky Way galaxy, you are the pilot and commander of your very own starship.
The rest is up to you.
Keep playing. Either you'll get it, or you won't.
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I bought the first Elite game on PC in 1987.
I was still playing it in 1999 when I could finally afford a new computer.
When I heard (around 2012?) they were relaunching it and needed funds, I gladly became a kickstarter supporter and paid a STUPID amount of money just so I could play the game.
You seem to know there's something there that you're not quite getting, so let me tell you, and please don't take offence. None is intended, but this game is not like the others.
5 weeks, you say?
Pah!
It takes years to play this game - at least it should. IMHO they've pandered to the "ME, NOW!" crowd and made it too easy, but then, market forces and all that.
The secret is: you need an imagination, and you need to use it.
No offence, but the year is 3304, the place is the Milky Way galaxy, you are the pilot and commander of your very own starship.
The rest is up to you.
Keep playing. Either you'll get it, or you won't.
o7
You have no authority here, and it doesn’t matter how long you’ve played. Your self-appointed gatekeeping is unnecessary. He has every right to say he likes the game, and your opinion doesn’t factor into it.
Rook? Seriously? Who are you, Rod Farva?
Yep, agree that ED could do with some more gameplay, but whose gameplay? Should it be redesigned to emulate your gameplay, my gameplay, Commander Blog's gameplay? How do you know that the way you want to play the game is the exact opposite of how the rest of the community wants to play the game?
Again, can't fault your impeccable reasoning here, nothing has changed since Alpha. Horizons and Beyond, with all the new aspects of the game they introduced are just figments of our collective imagination, it is all an evil conspiracy by DB - he is such a devil ....
That's true. But that's true about pretty much everything in life or games.
There are tasks that need to be done to a specific end. Missions, profit/loss trade, mining, combat, murder, what have you. Depending on what you do in a particular order and time/state, you'll accomplish certain mini-goals that culminate in your overall strategic goals.
An analogy would be something like working on your car. It can be an enjoyable and rewarding thing, but you need to do repetitive tasks to accomplish the goal. Turn a wrench clockwise and you'll usually tighten the bolt. Counter clockwise to loosen. Same with a screwdriver. Apply pressure with other tools to remove ball joints or bearings. Pretty simplistic and repetitive tasks.
But when you keep your eye on the goal, it feels good to have it done.
You have a spread of tools to work the BGS. Use them correctly and you'll do well. Incorrectly and you'll be like the mechanic that gets frustrated and has to have his car towed to a shop.
So I don't look at the little tasks. I see the tools to dismantle and rebuild the BGS. It's a matter of perspective.
To the OP: I kinda skimmed over the original post, and I certainly didn't read any of the other posts, but I'll give you my stock answer as you may actually be interested.
Different people look for different things in a game. Personally I am not looking neccessarily to be entertained by Elite, I am looking to travel to a different place and time and live a life I can't in this one. If only for small spaces of time. I have plenty of "content" to allow me to be a space trader that dabbles in combat and exploration and even interstellar intrigue for those bits of time.
That said, I look forward to more content just as much as the next guy, I just realise that I'm never going to get any thing other than what Frontier wants to (or can) give me. So far, for me, the price of admission is a fair one. If it's not for anyone else, so be it, the only sure way to make no one happy is to try to make everyone happy.
I like Elite dangerous because I choose to, and so do many others. It's not a big mystery, it's only a difference of opinion.
Different people look for different things in a game. Personally I am not looking neccessarily to be entertained by Elite, I am looking to travel to a different place and time and live a life I can't in this one. If only for small spaces of time. I have plenty of "content" to allow me to be a space trader that dabbles in combat and exploration and even interstellar intrigue for those bits of time.
That said, I look forward to more content just as much as the next guy, I just realise that I'm never going to get any thing other than what Frontier wants to (or can) give me. So far, for me, the price of admission is a fair one. If it's not for anyone else, so be it, the only sure way to make no one happy is to try to make everyone happy.
I like Elite dangerous because I choose to, and so do many others. It's not a big mystery, it's only a difference of opinion.
I'll call the Rookies whatever I damn well please.
You're right. I have no authority here. But what we have here is yet another complainer whining about what Elite could be and comparing it to several other games.
Similar to, oh I don't know,
All suffering from the same problem. Elite has no Narrative and without a neon sign rammed down their throat, they are so hopelessly lost and clueless they come to the forums to cry about how hard and repetitive Elite is.
That is the similarity of every game he's named. There is a narrative that railroads you to a victory screen. Hell even FIFA and R6: Siege as he's named have a basic narrative of "Oppose other team and win the game!". That is the routine problem I've seen with every single one of these posts.
So how about instead of hounding me for my attention like I'm your Sempai you sift through the forums vast 4000 pages and see what I'm talking about.
God knows if he actually told us what problems he's been having instead of complaining about Elite Dangerous and then trying to defend himself with "I criticize because I love" line we'd all be rushing to Ninja ourselves to help him. Hell I'd personally have no issue dropping in-game myself to help if we could agree on the time and multiplayer issues be damned!
(coughs to rid throat of Alucard moment)
Absolutely true. However, while it is repetitive, it doesn't have to be boring. I'm not judging you either. Here's my take...
If you're exploring, it doesn't have to be jump, scan, scoop, repeat. Visit some of the planets, drive around in the SRV, do some neutron star boosts, and take a break if you get bored and play a different game for a while. That's what I do. I also listen to good music and I find the game to be relaxing, meditative at times.
ED is a different kind of game; which is one of the reasons I like it. Appreciate it for what it is; hope for what it can be, but don't expect it to be something it's not.
Because they enjoy it.
The music that plays when you're just puttering around in your SRV is fantastic but I wish it wasn't so loud when I'm trying to listen to the echolocation radar. It's really hard to listen to the thing with piano renditions blasting at six times the noise of the radar when I'm trying to weed out the visual false positives.
I find it disheartening when people compare Elite to storydriven games like Asassins creed or witcher. Those are completely different genres and have a definite end and built around the narrative. I guess a lot of you want to finish your game.
I would find Elite excruciating if its endless gameplay was filled with talking heads and cutscenes repeated ad nauseam. Which it would if all these bells and whistles were added.
Those games are filled with content since they have beginnings and ends.
To me it seems too many players don't get what they are playing and how unique this game is.
I would find Elite excruciating if its endless gameplay was filled with talking heads and cutscenes repeated ad nauseam. Which it would if all these bells and whistles were added.
Those games are filled with content since they have beginnings and ends.
To me it seems too many players don't get what they are playing and how unique this game is.
Okay so I was watching Youtube and I ended up getting to Obsidian Ants channel and he mentioned planet landings back in 2015 and I was really surprised 2015!? Are you kidding me? So I was thinking about the game up to the present and ever since then we have gotten little to no CONTENT. I mean we should have more by now, nope still the same grindy game. I have put 5 weeks into this game and I love it I truly do but I dont have years to play the repetitive same stuff over and over again. They cant even get the mission board to be correct or be immersive and all of your fun is pressing buttons here in a space station and flying away to press buttons somewhere else. Or......oh my.....you can go shoot a rock on a big EMPTY planet or moon. See this was amazing to me at first because I was expecting to play an evolving space game but they dont do anything anymore besides add more community goals or fix things that should have been fixed awhile ago. And another thing is the prices on everything just to put a simple skin on your ship....NOPE have to pay...horizons was a ripoff and all they do is try to pull every last penny out of your pocket. Like I would love to be able to just change my ship color to another simple color and they can put a price on the fancy skins fine by me. I want to love this game but they are making it very hard. Look at other games Like The Wither 3 or Assassins Creed Origins they have CONTENT like you can do this then do that and hunt and do ACTUAL missions. In Elite it is 3304 and for a game set on being so realistic they sure dont know how to make a galaxy do they? I mean yes they modeled the galaxy really well but when I say galaxy I mean the life in it. Elite is as wide as an ocean but only a foot deep, not much to do. Even exploration is bad like you can get good views from stuff you've seen 300000000000 times and you dont even get to experience it like you should by now. Like ill be dead by the time they add atmospheric planet landings
Now I know a lot of you will tell me to leave or you dont care......but I want to know how do you love a game where you dont have anything to do and even with the stuff you get to do its ultra repetitive and grindy. I have restarted 3 or so times hoping to have a "GOAL" something to work towards. I like games with things to do I mean what do you truly get after grinding a trade route for HOURS, when in other games it could make you jump out of your seat with excitement. Im just tired of the little to no CONTENT and even with the content we have it is not immersive at all for being a realistic game and it is very very repetitive.
I want people to be supportive and try to understand where im coming from I love this game just as much also but im just looking to see if anyone else feels the same.
I feel you OP.
Check out this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UU7-rNhx3_I&list=LLbBejGnKHvpMlM9qoZl24mg
I know that Elite is not Eve and is not trying to be Eve. But just look at how much more depth there is in Eve as compared to Elite. Look at how awesome their economy is compared to the one in Elite - ours is like centrally managed (think rares) whereas their's is an open market. Look at the massive potential in Eve for emergent gameplay and the incredible variety of things to do and the creative ways people there figure out how to make money. Granted, Eve is an older game and hopefully Elite will develop some measure of Eve's depth in time.
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You seem to be extrapolating "can't please everyone" to "can't please anyone". I'm pretty sure that the devs could please a lot more people with a little bit of imagination.
Ah, yes the game music is good, but I turned that off over a year ago and use Windows Media Player to play stuff from my collection. I particularly like Tangerine Dream, which fits well with ED, but I play other stuff too. It depends on my mood as well as my current activities in-game.
Why do people do anything they like?
Why eat the same meal every week or read books by the same author, watch a 100 episodes of a TV series or play video games for 40 years?
People find comfort in familiarity and perceive those forms of entertainment that they are very familiar with as something they like and enjoy.
Ironically, no rocket science involved.
Why eat the same meal every week or read books by the same author, watch a 100 episodes of a TV series or play video games for 40 years?
People find comfort in familiarity and perceive those forms of entertainment that they are very familiar with as something they like and enjoy.
Ironically, no rocket science involved.
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ED can be expensive too, but I'm glad that the cost of entry is as low as the price of an xbone. I've already spent 2K+ on my gaming rig and I'm spending even more this year. I've got a Pimax 8K VR headset on order and I'll need to upgrade my graphics card (yet again). Still, it's worth it to me, since it will add to my enjoyment of games like ED.
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