Why ive given up on ED.

[ArchEmperor]

Be patient, string theory still needs some help, besides, Newtonian Physics also has its own singularities.



I suspect an entierly new model will be needed.

Parrot-academia are so funny: First they need to quantify everything, which isn't reality. So they introduce "duality" and "probability" to quantify that which cannot be quantified. But when they have some actual quantity, in the form of "a" singularity, which is perfect positioned in a perfect absolute point in "space", then they have a problem with it.

There is no coincidental duality in nature, only ignorance and fumbling with riddles to make it stick as "science". When in reality, .... they can only describe what they see and not explain it.

What is magnetism?.... Define a field please. .... So you think light is particles?... really... then how can the "particles" speed up after leaving a medium?

 

[Marshall...]

Im having a blast and have generally been since beta!

Can i have your stuff OP?

 

[777Driver]

So you think light is particles?... really... then how can the "particles" speed up after leaving a medium?

Isn't it common knowledge that light is both a particle and a wave? Apologies if I am not understanding you correctly

 

[Thatchinho]

Recent gravity wave detections are the best indirect evidence; a lot of effort was put into eliminating local sources of interference. But apart from that black holes are theoretical.

Being of a maths/science background, I've always been suspicious of black holes. In any other branch of science, if my equations fail with a "divide by zero" and produce "infinity" as an answer, I conclude that the equations aren't a good enough model of reality in the situation where I've applied them. But in cosmology, I instead seem to be allowed to conclude that I've discovered an unobserved astronomical object! I'll change my mind if gravity wave astronomy really takes off though.

+rep for the approach.

It's slightly different here though. Strictly speaking, what you're talking about is a singularity, not a black hole.

Roughly speaking a singularity (in this gravitational context) is a point of infinite density. The issues around that are well acknowledged, and developing a theory which resolves them is pretty much the holy grail of physics.

A black hole doesn't require a singularity though. It only requires a certain (non-infinite) density. If the Sun was compacted into a sphere smaller than approximately 3km in radius, there'd be a black hole. For the Earth the radius is approx 9mm. No infinities needed.

The problem, of course, is that once the gravity gets that strong there isn't any known mechanism which would prevent the matter collapsing into a singularity, but that's a different issue.

(With apologies in advance if I've misinterpreted your post and am saying stuff you're already well aware of! )

Edit - added text to indicate that I'm talking about singularities in the gravitational context, rather than the general concept of singularities in physics.

 

[Soon(TM)]

I admit Ed is pretty boring these days and takes real determination to play for long periods.

But the OPs post makes little sense, assassin's creed cannot be compared to ED. In assassin's creed you can walk around and get in and out of your ship.

ED has none of that.

 

[Shinji Ikari]

Parrot-academia are so funny: First they need to quantify everything, which isn't reality.

That's delving into epistemology which I'm afraid I've not read much about.

So they introduce "duality" and "probability" to quantify that which cannot be quantified. But when they have some actual quantity, in the form of "a" singularity, which is perfect positioned in a perfect absolute point in "space", then they have a problem with it.

In theory most physics are designed to actually be completely deterministic with the notable exception of Quantum Mechanics. Maybe other examples include thermodinamics but I'm not sure.

There is no coincidental duality in nature, only ignorance and fumbling with riddles to make it stick as "science". When in reality, .... they can only describe what they see and not explain it.

You see something, you infer what causes it, you make an scenario on which you make a prediction based on what you infered, then you test. Do you have something better than the scientific method?

What is magnetism?.... Define a field please. .... So you think light is particles?... really... then how can the "particles" speed up after leaving a medium?

Google it, take advantage of living in the 21st century.

 

[AsukaZ]

I respect Stephen Hawking a lot, and he's much cleverer than I am. But I think he's more willing than me to believe raw mathematics. Like I said, in any other branch of science one doesn't readily accept equation singularities as representing what really happens. I'm not saying he's wrong, I just think black holes are still a bit speculative. Especially as the maths they come from (general relativity) is known to conflict with another highly successful theory (quantum mechanics). Those theories can't both be right as they stand, and we don't yet know which of them will have to be more modified to reconcile them.

I'm no expert in this field by any stretch, but I don't think he's making that claim based solely on the raw numbers. As I understand it there is observational data that backs up the theory, I believe the consensus is now that they they are real physical objects, not just theoretical.

I think the product of the equations pointing to it being a singularity is itself a product of our incomplete understanding of the laws of physics as you say, if we ever do come up with a grand unified theory that singularity may resolve into something else.

Anyway I don't want to derail this thread (although this topic is much more interesting) so I'll just leave it there with the proviso that I could be wrong as well.

 

[Shinji Ikari]

+rep for the approach.

It's slightly different here though. Strictly speaking, what you're talking about is a singularity, not a black hole.

Roughly speaking a singularity is a point of infinite density. The issues around that are well acknowledged, and developing a theory which resolves them is pretty much the holy grail of physics.

A black hole doesn't require a singularity though. It only requires a certain (non-infinite) density. If the Sun was compacted into a sphere smaller than approximately 3km in radius, there'd be a black hole. For the Earth the radius is approx 9mm. No infinities needed.

The problem, of course, is that once the gravity gets that strong there isn't any known mechanism which would prevent the matter collapsing into a singularity, but that's a different issue.

(With apologies in advance if I've misinterpreted your post and am saying stuff you're already well aware of! )

A singularity is a much broader concept that affects QFT as well, overall this is what I found:

When a physicist refers to a singularity he or she is generally referring to a quantity which is infinite. Specifically, a quantity which approaches infinity as another parameter goes to zero, such as

 

[Brian of Earth]

Firstly, the worst in game storyline I've ever come across. Its totally dead.

There is as much personal engagement as a rock. It doesn't work for me.

And then, I found a game that does. Have a think about this. I like my ship a LOT. Whichever one I am piloting. Here's where FD screwed up. In assassins creed Black Flag, The ship works as it should in the water. As I am familiar with the sea, I let it do my work for me. Its not just a rubbish simulation of how water works, it actually does it extremely well.

I am way, way ahead of where I should be, because I understand this tactic, and the underlying physics of the game enable me to do so. Solid physics, solid gameplay. Surprise, surprise, you are ON a ship, travelling through a medium.

Which ED pathetically fails at.

1: There are no mediums in game.
2: Black hole my butt.
3: None at all. Its pathetic.

And I've just given up on all the bull.

This is ironic as hell! Out of boredom, I have started another play through of Black Flag. By far my favorite AC. Awesome game.. I'm also playing MGS-V and Dishonored and AC Origins..

I sometimes log on to Elite and sit in the station wondering.. wondering, then log off. I think it's normal myself, people put too much into burnout. Just do something else for a while. I'm coming up on three years (April 2). I do mostly CGs and Engineering, when I don't feel like doing that I do something else for a week or a month.. No use moaning about it..

 

[Enderby]

This is why i wished they had added a game side to ED. I’m guessing it’s too late now.

 

[tafkabb]

If there was a story you'd have all finished it in a week and stopped playing.

 

[ArchEmperor]

Isn't it common knowledge that light is both a particle and a wave? Apologies if I am not understanding you correctly

I can make it into an elephant too. Just need to approximate and find the matching equations that describes it that way.

I think light is electrical. Its a circuit.

 

[seko]

Firstly, the worst in game storyline I've ever come across. Its totally dead.

There is as much personal engagement as a rock. It doesn't work for me.

And then, I found a game that does. Have a think about this. I like my ship a LOT. Whichever one I am piloting. Here's where FD screwed up. In assassins creed Black Flag, The ship works as it should in the water. As I am familiar with the sea, I let it do my work for me. Its not just a rubbish simulation of how water works, it actually does it extremely well.

I am way, way ahead of where I should be, because I understand this tactic, and the underlying physics of the game enable me to do so. Solid physics, solid gameplay. Surprise, surprise, you are ON a ship, travelling through a medium.

Which ED pathetically fails at.

1: There are no mediums in game.
2: Black hole my butt.
3: None at all. Its pathetic.

And I've just given up on all the bull.

Don't be confused between story lines, where you follow the breadcrumbs, which lead to the same but ultimate goal, and a plot. ED is the latter. The game is not for everyone (PS: Black flag has a story line, but Kenway is not a not a real Assassin )

 

[777Driver]

I can make it into an elephant too. Just need to approximate and find the matching equations that describes it that way.

I think light is electrical. Its a circuit.

Oooh, one of those electric universe guys.

 

[MadDogMurdock]

I can make it into an elephant too. Just need to approximate and find the matching equations that describes it that way.

I think light is electrical. Its a circuit.

And peer review would rapidly disprove you.
You have absolutely zero grasp of what science is about or how it operates.
Best stay quiet rather than expose your shocking ignorance.

 

[Genus]

This is why i wished they had added a game side to ED. I’m guessing it’s too late now.

Never too late, if Faustus shall repent.

 

[Thatchinho]

A singularity is a much broader concept that affects QFT as well, overall this is what I found:

When a physicist refers to a singularity he or she is generally referring to a quantity which is infinite. Specifically, a quantity which approaches infinity as another parameter goes to zero, such as

Fair point. Post edited to clarify that I was talking about a specific type of singularity rather than saying what they are in general in physics.

 

[Enderby]

Fly about to get credits. Ok. Why. I have a ship and credits. Why do i need more? What’s the point? Why are ships and their doings the only thing to buy (aside from cargo)? Why are stations all pretty much the same? Why is it that all stations are are lifeless menus? Why is it all so utterly boring? Why?

 

[Enderby]

Never too late, if Faustus shall repent.

I think Faustus’ chances of redemption may have been a little higher than EDs

 

[777Driver]

Fly about to get credits. Ok. Why. I have a ship and credits. Why do i need more? What’s the point? Why are ships and their doings the only thing to buy (aside from cargo)? Why are stations all pretty much the same? Why is it that all stations are are lifeless menus? Why is it all so utterly boring? Why?

Because you spend way too much time playing the same game? Can't think of a single game that doesn't eventually bore me. We have seen a lot of variation to stations over the years, am sure more will be added. Not exactly top of my priority list though. I find a healthy mix of various activities keeps things fresh. Amazes me when I read posts saying I've played 4000 hours, Quad Elite! I'm bored!!!!

4000 hours, you know you can go from never flying a plane to a six figure salary commanding an airliner in 4000 hours?