Why ive given up on ED.
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You've been at this since 2014 and your just now realizing that you do not like space games? Seriously?
Honestly ... perhaps you should try the Goat Simulator on Steam ... look, I do understand folks not being able to wrap themselves around Sci Fi/Space games. It takes a certain leeway of imagination to delve into space where there are no real UPS or DOWNS and there are large amounts of dark nothing. Then you witness, even on the small scale of ED, the majesty of the stars and constellations. And it leaves you in with a certain aw of creation itself.
But each to their own. I love the Assassins Creede series and have played them all with the exception of the new one. So I hope you enjoy ...
Chief
Honestly ... perhaps you should try the Goat Simulator on Steam ... look, I do understand folks not being able to wrap themselves around Sci Fi/Space games. It takes a certain leeway of imagination to delve into space where there are no real UPS or DOWNS and there are large amounts of dark nothing. Then you witness, even on the small scale of ED, the majesty of the stars and constellations. And it leaves you in with a certain aw of creation itself.
But each to their own. I love the Assassins Creede series and have played them all with the exception of the new one. So I hope you enjoy ...
Chief
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Tell me about it.
I *hate* space dust. Both in normal cruise and supercruise. It's something that should belong to old atari 2600 games, not a modern game that prides himself of being somewhat scientifically accurate.
That's an odd habit I've formed there...
Must.. not... Lol.....
No idea why I even "lol" I don't laugh out loud, even in real life!
I'm a miserable sod.
Well, OP, while you've extolled the feature of AC:Black Flag's water medium-effects, you didn't mention Ship Simulator, or even Subnautica so it seems you're hilariously reaching with no real simulation basis for comparison. Even with FSX you can float with private yacht addons to navigationally realistic locations and coastlines.
With ED, maybe you've forgotten or trying to ignore and not mention ED's space sim aspects such as floating salvage objects ( sometimes falling out of orbit ), or the variable gravity wells where the rocks from blasted chondrite fall differently. We'll see you when you come back for the chap.2 Beyond beta, have a good break.
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Come on Gyp, the ether was disproved back in 1887, the effects of solar winds, interstellar gasses, etc. are negligible enough in the context to be ignored, so no medium is the correct model. What else are you expecting?
On the last two points, going for a full relativistic model would make the game completely unplayable as a multiplayer game (and also pretty much as a single player game). Even a Newtonian model introduces a lot of problems, and the use of it in FE2 and FFE drastically reduced the basic playability compared to the original Elite*. They made the right choice with ED. Again, not sure what else you're expecting given what the consequences of using a physically realistic model would be.
PBS Spacetime, the best physics Youtube channel.
You say you have lots of experience with the sea. Tell me, how much do you have with space travel? See space is a vacuum which is very much not like the sea. Ships also travel on top of the water so a submarine would be a better comparison with it being fully immersed in it's medium and with a great need to keep you out of that medium.
Also that game is historical about a story that already happened, Elite is futuristic about a story you as a player are writing.
I've found the Division to be a much better run around New York simulator and Forza is a much better racing simulator too. Basically not the same game at all so not surprising that it's a better ye oldie ship simulator than Elite.
Recent gravity wave detections are the best indirect evidence; a lot of effort was put into eliminating local sources of interference. But apart from that black holes are theoretical.
Being of a maths/science background, I've always been suspicious of black holes. In any other branch of science, if my equations fail with a "divide by zero" and produce "infinity" as an answer, I conclude that the equations aren't a good enough model of reality in the situation where I've applied them. But in cosmology, I instead seem to be allowed to conclude that I've discovered an unobserved astronomical object! I'll change my mind if gravity wave astronomy really takes off though.
I thought gravity waves could also by explained by colliding pulsars and neutron stars? Out of curiosity, what else do you think could explain the orbits detected around SagA*?
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OP, didn't you recently post one of these "I quit" threads?
So.... quit.
So.... quit.
I guess some people buy Elite: Dangerous and expect it to be something it is not. They come from traditional story driven games, and then end up with a sandbox "do what you want" kind of game. Nothing in ED is actually motivating you to play; you have to come up with your own narrative, whatever that is.
Yes, there is a global story unfolding regarding Thargoids, Guardians and political stuff between the three major factions where you can weigh in to support / suppress. But, as a player, you are a very small piece in the grander scheme of things.
This, to some, is not good enough, and I can totally understand that.
For me, it is a liberating feeling of not being handhold in any way, nor having to focus on "driving the story forward". I just love to be in space, flying the ships, help my player faction with BGS, do some CGs here and there, and... well... do my own thing that I enjoy doing while carefully watching the bigger story unfold at a distance as time pass by, and from time to time, engage in that story if I find the gameplay fun (such as rescuing people from burning stations).
I love this game, and I can not see myself quit anytime soon.
Beyond - Chapter 1 will be released Tuesday next week, and that will bring some lovely new things.
Oh well... Elite is not for everyone.
Yes, there is a global story unfolding regarding Thargoids, Guardians and political stuff between the three major factions where you can weigh in to support / suppress. But, as a player, you are a very small piece in the grander scheme of things.
This, to some, is not good enough, and I can totally understand that.
For me, it is a liberating feeling of not being handhold in any way, nor having to focus on "driving the story forward". I just love to be in space, flying the ships, help my player faction with BGS, do some CGs here and there, and... well... do my own thing that I enjoy doing while carefully watching the bigger story unfold at a distance as time pass by, and from time to time, engage in that story if I find the gameplay fun (such as rescuing people from burning stations).
I love this game, and I can not see myself quit anytime soon.
Beyond - Chapter 1 will be released Tuesday next week, and that will bring some lovely new things.
Oh well... Elite is not for everyone.
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Yes, I haven't a clue!
I respect Stephen Hawking a lot, and he's much cleverer than I am. But I think he's more willing than me to believe raw mathematics. Like I said, in any other branch of science one doesn't readily accept equation singularities as representing what really happens. I'm not saying he's wrong, I just think black holes are still a bit speculative. Especially as the maths they come from (general relativity) is known to conflict with another highly successful theory (quantum mechanics). Those theories can't both be right as they stand, and we don't yet know which of them will have to be more modified to reconcile them.
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Not sure what is more frightening, definitive proof that BH'S and SMBH's are out there, or that it is some other unknown phenomena that we are yet to understand. Either way, something is definitely at the heart of our galaxy and most other galaxy's we have observed, it doesn't emit light and it is capable of accelerating massive stars to great speeds.
Isn't a singularity delving into the Quantum world? Hence why we fully don't understand what goes on inside a blackhole. General relativity seems to be doing a good job right up to that point, and it perfectly explains everything we have observed so far. I tend to believe we have a hard time accepting an object with infinite mass, purely because we are at our infancy when it comes to Quantum mechanics.
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Yet another topic in support my claims that majority players are spoiled by the overwhelming number of Themepark experiences and have no idea what to do with a Sandbox.
And the only fix that will silence these people is a 40 hour repeatable narrative themepark tacked onto the game... at least until they grow bored and demand 'moar' or perhaps 'better' without explaining what ether of these two demands actually are.
And the only fix that will silence these people is a 40 hour repeatable narrative themepark tacked onto the game... at least until they grow bored and demand 'moar' or perhaps 'better' without explaining what ether of these two demands actually are.
Be patient, string theory still needs some help, besides, Newtonian Physics also has its own singularities.
I suspect an entierly new model will be needed.
Blackholes don't need infinite mass, in fact, the Earth could become a black hole as long as it is compressed below its Schwarzschild Radius which would be about the size of a peannut.
On the topic of singularities, this may help you.
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