Why the animals aren't the stars of the game - and what needs to be done about it

Moonfox

Moonfox
Every time there’s an update I’m so hopeful for colour variations and improved behaviour, so here’s hoping it is on the way, and delayed by real life problems, rather than differing intentions for the game.

So many awesome suggestions here too! I’d love to see animals have favourite friends/items/toys/trees/rocks or things to do. Love the idea of food quality making flamingo colours more vibrant! It would be amazing to have some more personality for our animals.
 

Bo Marit

Lead Community Manager
Frontier
There's definitely a lot of good feedback in this thread! Rest assured this is still on the radar for Planet Zoo, and the team have been working on it (among other things). We're prepping another update at the moment but please know that colour variations won't be addressed yet in this one - however it's planned in for another one soon after! Thanks for your patience <3!
 
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Swjosdotschka

Swjosdotschka
Bo Marit said:
There's definitely a lot of good feedback in this thread! Rest assured this is still on the radar for Planet Zoo, and the team have been working on it (among other things). We're prepping another update at the moment but please know that colour variations won't be addressed yet in this one - however it's planned in for another one soon after! Thanks for your patience <3!
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Thanks for feedbacking this to us. :) As long as it is on the radar, I happily wait. You all rock in reacting to feedback!
 

NL_Mutso

NL_Mutso
Swjosdotschka said:
And a little glimpse into the progress wouldn't hurt, no matter when the update will be released
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The forum would be constantly asking: "You said this is work-in-progress but when will it be released ?"
Or explain to people what they mean when they are working on a feature.. Or when something isn't on their list..
People just need to learn to be patient. For a lot of people mentioning it once correctly (and they did) is more than enough. I'm confident things will work out fine.

Seen this with an MMO I used to play (not sure if this was STO). Sometimes they even cross out their work-in-progress because it causes too much problems or replace it with something else. Or ideas postponed to be included in another similar form in a DLC. Or that work takes 4-5 years...
You don't want that discussion. (especially with some DLC/options). It creates a very negative vibe on a forum..
 

Moonfox

Moonfox
Bo Marit said:
There's definitely a lot of good feedback in this thread! Rest assured this is still on the radar for Planet Zoo, and the team have been working on it (among other things). We're prepping another update at the moment but please know that colour variations won't be addressed yet in this one - however it's planned in for another one soon after! Thanks for your patience <3!
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Oh hey! Thanks for the speedy update and response, very much appreciated! Looking forward to it, I know the coat differences will be amazing.
 

tigris115

tigris115
I appreciate the response. Is there a way that we can contribute? Maybe we can submit references or something for what color or model variations we'd like to see?

I'd personally adore a revamp of the lion manes
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Bo Marit

Lead Community Manager
Frontier
tigris115 said:
I appreciate the response. Is there a way that we can contribute? Maybe we can submit references or something for what color or model variations we'd like to see?

I'd personally adore a revamp of the lion manes
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The team read and monitor the forums and we keep them posted about these threads too so they'll have seen it :) we can't guarantee everyone's requests but we're working hard on some more variety for you!
 

Mkau

M
tigris115 said:
I appreciate the response. Is there a way that we can contribute? Maybe we can submit references or something for what color or model variations we'd like to see?

I'd personally adore a revamp of the lion manes
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You can for example contribute in this thread
forums.frontier.co.uk

Mutations Wishlist

What mutations would you want? List them here. Nothing too obscure please. I already think the spotless cheetah wasn't a good choice since king cheetahs are a much more common mutation. Here are mine: 1. King Cheetah 2. Pseudo-Melanistic Tiger 3. Piebald Peafowl 4. Stripeless White Tiger 5...
forums.frontier.co.uk forums.frontier.co.uk
It was moved by a moderator into wishlists,after Frontier announced that they will look into colour variants etc. and see what they can do about them.
 

Swjosdotschka

Swjosdotschka
Honestly, there is a difference beween variations and mutations. I would be very disatisfied if the improvments regarding diversity in animals end up being mutations instead of natural variants. Mutations are a hot topic in zoos and rightful so. As an aditions to natural coat variation, I wouldn't mind though.
 

Mkau

M
Swjosdotschka said:
Honestly, there is a difference beween variations and mutations. I would be very disatisfied if the improvments regarding diversity in animals end up being mutations instead of natural variants. Mutations are a hot topic in zoos and rightful so. As an aditions to natural coat variation, I wouldn't mind though.
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You are actually mixing things up a bit here.Most people associate something bad with the term mutation,because it is depicted that way in various contexts (through media,movies,the colloquial term "mutants" etc.)
Every difference in e.g colour/shade,fur length,eye colour is a mutation on it's own;the difference is just in what genes and thus pigments etc. are affected.
Overall mutations are not a bad thing at all,they are occuring all the time and they are the reason why our planet is not full of clones.
Some mutations are known though to being more fond of being related to/causing health problems (e.g. albinism) etc. or in the animal case being a case of inbreeding to achieve a large mass of them and that's why there is so much focus on them.
A darker orange coloured tiger has a mutation in the distribution and quantity of the responsible pigments (mostly melanin),just like a leucistic (white) tiger has.The difference is only in the actually resulting mutation,but both individuals do have one.

Regarding the thread: It's about overall colour mutations and "normal" variants (even if those are actually the same) ,not only about the big ones like melanism and albinism.
 
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Swjosdotschka

Swjosdotschka
Mkau said:
You are actually mixing things up a bit here.Most people associate something bad with the term mutation,because it is depicted that way in various contexts (through media,movies,the colloquial term "mutants" etc.)
Every difference in e.g colour/shade,fur length,eye colour is a mutation on it's own;the difference is just in what genes and thus pigments etc. are affected.
Overall mutations are not a bad thing at all,they are occuring all the time and they are the reason why our planet is not full of clones.
Some mutations are known though to being more fond of being related to/causing health problems (e.g. albinism) etc. or in the animal case being a case of inbreeding to achieve a large mass of them and that's why there is so much focus on them.
A darker orange coloured tiger has a mutation in the distribution and quantity of the responsible pigments (mostly melanin),just like a leucistic (white) tiger has.The difference is only in the actually resulting mutation,but both individuals do have one.
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No, not mixing things up. I know all that, but just had different mutation in minds than you had, probably. Melanism in a leopard isn't a problem for me, as it occurs rather often and spontanously in real life. While leucism and albinism are often found in highly inbred lines - which doesn't go too well with the message Frontier wants to deliver with this game. Plus, I worry if they add only mutations but not variants of the "original" color, it would take away from the realistim effect. Most zoos don't even have a white lion in real life, let alone a black one. So a "mutations only" update would only shift the problem for me.
 
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