Why weapons doesn't have a STUN option??

[Scaletho]

After this "update 6" we risk to get Notoriety even if you kill a NPC in stealth mode, no other NPCs around, in an ANARCHY system! Lots of missions give us no option but kill lots of NPCs.

Odyssey endless annoying grinding push us to be criminals, and loot lots of settlements to find almost impossible stuff like Opinion Polls or Patrol Routes.

For some reason I gave up to understand, we can't trade data. We can't trade some useless goods. And we spent weeks grinding.

Considering this scenario, why in the heck Frontier didn't create a STUN option for some weapons, whether as upgrade or engineering???

Frontier created a criminal grind system, and somehow want us not to be criminals when grinding. Well, I don't like this stuff too! I don't want to be assassin, I like the EXPLORATION and MISSIONS in Elite Dangerous.

So, give us the STUN OPTION! At least the possibility to engineer one, somehow! This way we can grind and avoid killing spree in a non-lethal mode.

 

[Commander Kheane]

Bring Back The Stun!

Why have non-violent odyssey missions if there's no way to eliminate someone without straight up killing them? The Overload thing was a stun that was removed because PEGI, sure, but maybe it coulda been kept. Keep the mechanics, but add a few new flags. If someone's taken out with the Overload...

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The specific bit is that it won't let you attack defenceless targets at PEGI 16 (which Odyssey is) but will at PEGI 18. So stunned bodies would be fine if you couldn't further damage them.

(Its definition of "defenceless" appears to be exceptionally literal - launching dumbfires at civilian workers is absolutely fine, for example, because in theory you might miss the first shot and their G1 sidearm might do a fraction of a percent of shield damage back before you fire again)

It's also got a massive loophole for "sanitisation of atrocities" - which is why Elite Dangerous: Horizons gets to depict a horrendously dystopian universe containing war crimes, genocide, slavery, political executions, glorification of mass murderers, etc ... at PEGI-7. All the violence is either cartoonified or hidden behind doors you can't go through.

 

[ferus]

Yep, this is what we got. Engineering which often forces us to kill people and then the omniscient eye in the sky punishes us for it.
I don’t try to understand this anymore...

 

[Ian Skippy]

I dont get why stunning them via the energy tool doesn't just incapacitate them while leaving them alive. Make it possible to not be a mass murderer.

 

[LKx]

Because for PEGI reasons Odyssey is designed to make us a bunch of murderers

 

[Ian Skippy]

Because for PEGI reasons Odyssey is designed to make us a bunch of murderers

Not buying it. Just don't allow people to further harm them once incapacitated.

 

[LKx]

PS: Fortnite is PEGI 12 and you do finish off incapacitated targets

 

[Pville_Piper]

It's not Star Trek....

 

[ferus]

If PEGI is an issue then FDev could give us stealth kills.
If I am on a remote planet, at a small settlement in a small room and no one sees me kill a worker then don’t give me a fine/bounty/notoriety.
Problem solved.

 

[Frop]

You stun them. With bullets.

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1byycwl8qgc

 

[Leadfoot]

I seem to remember being able to purchase "non-lethal" legally and deliver them to places that were in "civil war" status.
Never did actually SEE them but I know they exist because it's a think you can buy and sell.
So, why can't WE get them? Everyone ELSE could.

 

[simulacrae]

Edited …. Ya would be nice if the stun gizmo just stunned….

 

[Bottom Hat]

Can you teabag them? If you can't, then you probably can't hit a blind man, according to the most up-to-date pegi definition.

 

[Mersozz]

I would like to see the Captain Kirk double fisted attack. You can take down a Gorn with that move.

 

[here_it_comes]

If ya didn't want to kill lots of people, why'd ya buy an FPS?

 

[Zeke Drexel]

Because for PEGI reasons Odyssey is designed to make us a bunch of murderers

It's also got a massive loophole for "sanitisation of atrocities" - which is why Elite Dangerous: Horizons gets to depict a horrendously dystopian universe containing war crimes, genocide, slavery, political executions, glorification of mass murderers, etc ... at PEGI-7. All the violence is either cartoonified or hidden behind doors you can't go through.

So shooting people in the back with my rifle is OK then

 

[Commander Kheane]

So shooting people in the back with my rifle is OK then

hey man I don't understand Europe. I'd love to live there to have access to all of the culture, but I don't understand it.

 

[Mavsy 81]

As people have mentioned its the PEGI rating.
I constantly have ideas on where this game should go, but I realised after reading a thead last week that none of them would survive the PEGI rating.
I dont bother anymore.

 

[Loophole]

The first Odyssey "clear out a settlement" mission I undertook ended up feeling like something out of a B-grade horror movie, with me starring as the faceless killer. After taking out all the armed guards, I completed the mission by tracking down the remaining barely-armed civilian staff one by one, using the settlement's own staff-tracking system to locate them. The last one was cowering in the hab module, no doubt desperately scribbling out a final note to his wife as he heard my heavy footsteps approaching down the corridor.
I've never taken one of those missions again.
How could this possibly get a PEGI rating under 18?

 

[DerpySquatch]

Even better... Punching NPC's to try & knock them out kills them...