Will you pre-order the next DLC? I will... and that's why:

Nope, there is still a lot of unfinished place holding features in the game as is, so why would i pay for more. Finish whats in the game b4 opening up wallets or you'll end up with more stuff that gets over thought under delivered while other stuff gets pushed to the side (pp ect) or get unwanted by most, over-hyped stuff like out of the game (arena) modes.

I think that is the plan? To not do early access like games as a service release but push out feature complete? I wouldn't buy another at launch-incomplete DLC neither. They burned me good with Horizons - I was first day buyer just for the planetary stuff.
Engineers were marketed as "very mild upgrades" so I didn't bother. Boy, was the surprise big when it was 250% powercreep and crapping on the rest of my in-game experience. in the end I paid for a DLC that actually made it less fun to do the stuff I enjoyed before.
 

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If they offer any incentive to pre-order, then maybe. Otherwise, what's the point?

Goodwill?

Ahh I see your point. The goodwill jar is as empty as a eunuch's underpants for many players after four years. But meh...it's ~£40!! I still have some goodwill towards DB if nothing else.
 
Goodwill for what? To give out interest free loans to a business company? Try talking to your bank about giving you an interest-free loan one day. Because goodwill.

Nobody forces you to do it. But if others want to support the company that creates their favourite game of all times I can't see anything wrong with it. Nobody is in a position to tell others what they should do with their money apart from their moms.
 
Goodwill for what? To give out interest free loans to a business company? Try talking to your bank about giving you an interest-free loan one day. Because goodwill.

It's a small amount of money, so it doesn't really hit the radar. Still, I'm not leaning toward buying a promise.

On the interest free loans, I've done that. It's the law in some states that if you pay a loan off within 90 days, it's interest free. I also do that every month with my credit cards. Pay them off and no interest, ever. I even get 2% cash back for my troubles.
 
OP. Probably. I've had great value for money so far. £70 / 2000 hours = ~£0.035 per hour. Not many games have given me that kind of value.
 
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Yes, incentive or not I will pre-order and gladly pay a premium if asked. Not a "white knight", I just really like this game and if I can pre-order it will allow me to show my appreciation for the enjoyment they've given me by creating the game in the first place. So......

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Personally i think its about time game developers put their money where their mouth is.

Rather than getting us to Pre-Order, they should instead be Pre-Giving.

Thats right give us the expansion for free and then when it actually contains all the stuff they said, all working as intended without any bugs we pay for it.

Whats up Developers sounds like your being screwed? I wonder why that is....
 
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Nobody forces you to do it. But if others want to support the company that creates their favourite game of all times I can't see anything wrong with it. Nobody is in a position to tell others what they should do with their money apart from their moms.

I don't care how you spend your money. I'm just saying why it doesn't make any sense for me. I gladly spent money on vanity stuff in Warframe to support the business. Still wouldn't give cash for something I don't know what I get for it up front without proper value in return. Especially not for unlimitedly reproducible downloadable software.
 
I don't like preorders generally. Far too many companies gamble everything and subsequently measure their success on their preorder numbers before the game's even released these days. Preordering DLC for a game I like well enough isn't completely out of the question...

but it better be some DAMNED IMPRESSIVE DLC...
 
I don't think pre-ordering DLC for a game you already love is stupid. Pre-ordering a game from an unknown company with no track record is dumb. I pre-ordered Destiny because I have been playing Bungie games since "Pathways into Darkness"; I saw where Bungie was heading though and didn't pre-order Destiny 2. I eventually bought Destiny 2 on sale and I've barely played it.

As far as FDev and ED goes I am old enough to have played Elite on the C64, if I had ever heard of it. I didn't know about the ED Kickstarter but I did see the Xbox preview and bought it to give it a try. I then built a single purpose gaming PC and cockpit just for ED. I am now hooked on it and will pre-order any DLC as it goes on sale. Unless I see FDev go in some direction with the game I don't like I will continue to support it by buying DLC and new versions as they become available.
 
Whereas the ED LEP owners were the ones that ensured the game got made at all, and deserve a better label.

It's even better in Polish. "Lep" is a word meaning "sticky" and a part of the phrase "lep na muchy" which is "flypaper" :D Sooo... yeah. Gotcha! :D

As for the OP: short answer in spoiler tag
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Longer explanation: I am not paying for a cat in the bag anymore after horizons. It had numerous delays, it still has release-time bugs, and in retrospect it was underwhelming and full of unfinished placeholders. So I will wait, see what's on offer on release and then decide.
Oh, and if it will contain an exclusive ship like the cobra mkIV then I will advise everyone not to preorder it on principle.
 
I don't care how you spend your money. I'm just saying why it doesn't make any sense for me. I gladly spent money on vanity stuff in Warframe to support the business. Still wouldn't give cash for something I don't know what I get for it up front without proper value in return. Especially not for unlimitedly reproducible downloadable software.

Sorry, seems like I misinterpreted your comment. I think that's perfectly reasonable.
 
I'd also quite like to see some other way of describing LEP owners other than Lep(p)er - for pretty obvious reasons. (for those that don't understand, a Leper is a person with the disease Leprosy, which still exists in some parts of the world, is severe and causes significant disfigurement and occsional limb loss. Those people with it were (are) treated as outcasts and shunned by the rest of ignorant society as unclean as if they were covered in excrement (despite it being not highly contagious).

Whereas the ED LEP owners were the ones that ensured the game got made at all, and deserve a better label.

Why not just call us "LEP owners" - it's not like there's a worldwide shortage of letters for the internet is it?

I have been thinking about this for a while and did not know if I should speak about it...

Personally I don't take offense from the usage of that word anymore - but that's only because I understand it's being used to sting a certain category of forum users, and I am aware of and accustomed to the PvP nature of this forum. Also I'm not the kind of guy to get "triggered" - in fact I would like it if people were less sensitive to trivial name calling and more considerate towards issues that truly matter.

But I can't help thinking that it's in poor taste that people use the name of a great affliction, which has caused mankind great pain throughout history, for such silly forum activities.

To explain better what I'm trying to say, if FDEV tomorrow announces the name of the new expansion: Nefarious Intergalactic Guardians, and all the forumites flock to preorder it, cuz it's such a great expansion, would it be ok for me to call all these customers "NIG-gers"? Would it feel right to all of you, or would it leave a bad taste in the mouth? Would I be braking forum rule 3: "no discriminatory, racist, sexist, or offensive content"?

Food for thought.
 
:D Yeah, I'll pre order. I get the new content from D-day, I support the company's efforts and I encourage FD to continue allocating resources to Elite. There aren't many down sides to doing it. It's more expensive? A little less than the price of a AAA game isn't a huge expense for me, although I appreciate not everyone is that fortunate. Even so, my buying in early benefits players unable to do so- it'll allow FD to drop prices further down the line. It's all good.


I get that. I really do. I've also done it until now and have 5 licenses with Horizons, paint, etc.

I also support a small indy dev through Patreon and have a monthly donation going out to help them. But FD doesn't need financial help. They're very well established and have successfully become a self publisher. They've made it to the bug leagues as far as their commercial endeavors.

So I can hold them to the higher standard that they have set for themselves. My preorder money won't make any difference to them. So I'll put the extra funds to better use.
 
I have been thinking about this for a while and did not know if I should speak about it...

Personally I don't take offense from the usage of that word anymore - but that's only because I understand it's being used to sting a certain category of forum users, and I am aware of and accustomed to the PvP nature of this forum. Also I'm not the kind of guy to get "triggered" - in fact I would like it if people were less sensitive to trivial name calling and more considerate towards issues that truly matter.

But I can't help thinking that it's in poor taste that people use the name of a great affliction, which has caused mankind great pain throughout history, for such silly forum activities.

To explain better what I'm trying to say, if FDEV tomorrow announces the name of the new expansion: Nefarious Intergalactic Guardians, and all the forumites flock to preorder it, cuz it's such a great expansion, would it be ok for me to call all these customers "NIG-gers"? Would it feel right to all of you, or would it leave a bad taste in the mouth? Would I be braking forum rule 3: "no discriminatory, racist, sexist, or offensive content"?

Food for thought.

I miss my youth. For all sorts of reasons, but partly because it was a time when the intent of a remark and the context of a word's use actually mattered. We could use extraordinarily 'offensive' words on each other with great affection and zero malice and we all knew when someone had crossed the line. Offence used to be taken, not given.

Your throwing the n word into the mix is particularly depressing. In the Anglosphere, it used to mean something deeply offensive to citizens of the US for historical reasons and mean very dark skinned person everywhere else. The British offensive term was (colour)(illegitimate son). It's why a contraction of Pakistani is considered so offensive today- it's hardly an insult to suggest that someone's ancestry can be traced to the Himalayan foothills, but as verbal shorthand for (country)(illegitimate son) it was a very different matter.

Sadly, the intent and context of our language no longer matters, instead we constantly self censor, terrified of offending each other with the use of a Haram word or phrase, while vile and truly despicable remarks are uttered by persons adept at doubleplusgood duckspeak and goodthink.

I've used 'leper' many times, well aware of it's miserable connotations (that was the whole point). I'm Scottish, I've never even heard the n word used in casual conversation. I haven't used 'leper' in years, along with a dictionary's worth of similar words. What was once banter is now wrongthink.

I don't think our culture is enriched by our verbal cowardice. I think it emboldens and empowers otherwise weak people willing to play on ever more convoluted victim narratives. The future belongs to them; a bleak, repressive back to front and upside down future where excellence in any sphere will be a very real handicap to whatever poor fool fails to hide their natural flair or talent. [sad]
 
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