What us Americans call Elk I believe most Europeans call a Wapiti. I have only ever heard the term Wapiti after joining this forum, actuallly, because it's not very common here.
Winter 2023 DLC Speculation
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Moose (America) = Elk (Europe)
Elk (America) = Wapiti (Europe)
Elk in the north american terms usually means wapiti i think, i never actually heard about the european name for them until i read about the native canadian influences in the rocky mountains - a history book of all places
My local zoo has a few european elk but i call them moose since thats what i know them as.Elk:
Moose:
I think the anniversary animal may help to figure out, or at least eliminate, some winter pack possibilities.
Spectacled Bear for Anniversary animal? Probably not getting a Highlands/Alpine pack.
Wild Boar for Anniversary animal? Probably not getting something that leans heavily into Europe/Eurasia
American Black Bear, a second Flamingo, a second Giraffe or the Nile Crocodile won't really help us figure anything out, but they're also animals I think are high possibilities to get.
I am probably wrong here, but I have a very very strong feeling it's going to be one of these 6 animals.
Spectacled Bear for Anniversary animal? Probably not getting a Highlands/Alpine pack.
Wild Boar for Anniversary animal? Probably not getting something that leans heavily into Europe/Eurasia
American Black Bear, a second Flamingo, a second Giraffe or the Nile Crocodile won't really help us figure anything out, but they're also animals I think are high possibilities to get.
I am probably wrong here, but I have a very very strong feeling it's going to be one of these 6 animals.
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Copy-paste from a Google search of why moose/elk/wapiti have confusing names:
Across the Atlantic Ocean, Brits use elk to describe the animal we all know as a moose. When British settlers came to Canada, they saw how much larger our wapiti are than the European red deer, and they thought it had to be related to the European moose – or as they called them – elk.
Across the Atlantic Ocean, Brits use elk to describe the animal we all know as a moose. When British settlers came to Canada, they saw how much larger our wapiti are than the European red deer, and they thought it had to be related to the European moose – or as they called them – elk.
I have posted this before but I guess it is still relevant:
Wapiti is used for what North Americans call elk. Although I believe the word elk came about because the first English speaking settlers in North America saw a big deer and called it elk because that was their only frame of reference. They presumably hadn’t seen a moose (elk) yet.
Eland has the same etymology, it’s actually Dutch for elk (moose).
Actually, and to add further complication, moose is now often used in British English and by speakers of languages that have an elk-like word (älg in Swedish for example) when speaking English.
This all shows why scientific names are important because all other names are subject to change depending on who is speaking and where they are.
Wapiti is used for what North Americans call elk. Although I believe the word elk came about because the first English speaking settlers in North America saw a big deer and called it elk because that was their only frame of reference. They presumably hadn’t seen a moose (elk) yet.
Eland has the same etymology, it’s actually Dutch for elk (moose).
Actually, and to add further complication, moose is now often used in British English and by speakers of languages that have an elk-like word (älg in Swedish for example) when speaking English.
This all shows why scientific names are important because all other names are subject to change depending on who is speaking and where they are.
Which makes sense. They're much larger than all the other deer we have over here, except for Alces Alces.
I'm convinced that If we get the American black bear as the anniversary, we can assume there won't be a bear in the winter DLC. Of course, we can still get a mountain pack without the Andean bear.
Also why are people giving up on birds when it is so obvious their omission is intentional
I feel like it'd be the ABB or Nile croc, the most. Both are immensely popular and keep being brought up.
However, at the same time, we could get a black rhino/dromedary situation, where Frontier sees their popularity and instead puts them in a DLC
Well, while that's most likely, I wouldn't be surprised if we got 2 types of animals back-to-back...
Exactly. I hate it that when people say that we can hope for something, others say we shouldn't and are gonna be disappointed. Like, I understand being realistic, but also hoping doesn't hurt at all, as long as you're prepared to be a little disappointed. What's wrong is when there are complaints and gripes for not getting what YOU wanted
They're listed as "elk/wapiti" on all of the warning signs in my area, which I assume is a concession to European tourists. Occasionally you'll see a sign that says "elk/wapiti/ponoka" the last being the local First Nation's word for them.
Whatever they're called, they're big and aggressive and people should stop trying to pet them.
Whatever they're called, they're big and aggressive and people should stop trying to pet them.
Petting zoo pack confirmed, y'all. We're getting elk. The kids will love them
Exact same thing with red deer around me. Tourists think they are cute fluffy deer and feed them whatever from lettuce to entire sandwiches while stopping into the middle of the road blocking all traffic.
I mean, people do that with bison near the national parks, so I wouldn't be surprised if they did it with smaller, fluffier deer
It's not been a common trend but it's happened before. Two foxes in a row, two deer in a row...
Like some people said, many are scare by frontier layoffs. We know the oceania, 4th anniversary and winter 2023 dlc were done before the layoffs, maybe they have done and they are polishing. Inside of me I want another year of support, but lets wait and see how thing will evolve
While not outright confirmed, it seems from reports and statements that Planet Zoo is one of their big money makers. Now, that takes into account sales, and 4 years of product already released driving the majority of that, but if it's one the bigger money makers I can't see them just stopping support beyond fixing issues updates.
Frontier doesn't have to release any particular animals of course...but I don't see how they could possibly address many of the more high profile missing animals into one pack. Assuming of course they were to make it in the game at all. Of course, at some point they couldn't possibly fit the more high profile missing animals in packs, and the answer is actually that they just won't make it into the game. No telling when that will be though.
Just off the top of my head though: We got South American Primates...2 at least hopefully if not 3; the Wolverine, more habitat birds... a Baboon, Asian Antelopes, Coatimundi...at least one more bear....on and on and on.
It’s also worth mentioning that elk refers to some extinct deer species.
Hence why British English now uses wapiti and moose
