Winter 2023 DLC Speculation

The Carcharodontogenius

The Carcharodontogenius
Cynogale bennettii II said:
A wildcard choice as an exhibit species for a tundra pack could be the arctic bumblebee.

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Although I'm not sure if this exact species is kept, there are a few places that do, or have, kept bumblebees. I would personally favour seeing them kept in the standard exhibit, but with a new design - a lower nest burrow, where a number of bees are gathered around their honey pots, and the upper flight section, where a couple of bees fly from flower-to-flower on a loop. The exhibit box would have this sort of design, but with the interior of the upper section changed to a more naturalistic tundra setting.

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Bees should be kept outside & pollenate rather than being trapped in a box with less flowers.
 

DarthQuell

DarthQuell
Cynogale bennettii II said:
A wildcard choice as an exhibit species for a tundra pack could be the arctic bumblebee.

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Although I'm not sure if this exact species is kept, there are a few places that do, or have, kept bumblebees. I would personally favour seeing them kept in the standard exhibit, but with a new design - a lower nest burrow, where a number of bees are gathered around their honey pots, and the upper flight section, where a couple of bees fly from flower-to-flower on a loop. The exhibit box would have this sort of design, but with the interior of the upper section changed to a more naturalistic tundra setting.

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The Carcharodontogenius said:
Bees should be kept outside & pollenate rather than being trapped in a box with less flowers.
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Well, we can make the WEs null, so it shouldn't matter anyways.
That's what gets me annoyed: people say that the WEs are the wrong size, but they're the size of a small building. They say that the animals shouldn't be enclosed, but you can make them null. They say that they aren't creative, but you can literally put anything inside of them without breaking immersion plus habitat animals can walk in them when they're null
 

DarthQuell

DarthQuell
CharlieXGaming said:
Yeah I know that but not everyone plays with null WTEs and when frontier advertises it as an walkthrough exhibit animal it still shows that they can be in an enclosure, which doesn’t really send the right message about conservation.
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They will, but they can also showcase them in a null environment, showing how the intention is supposed to be regarding them. Kinda like how the Wetlands pack showcased an underwater tunnel
 

CharlieXGaming

CharlieXGaming
DarthQuell said:
They will, but they can also showcase them in a null environment, showing how the intention is supposed to be regarding them. Kinda like how the Wetlands pack showcased an underwater tunnel
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I see what you mean with frontier bending the rules like with the underwater tunnel, but I just can’t see them adding something as important to the environment as a bee to an exhibit. Doesn’t seem like a frontier thing to do. Plus I also don’t think this would suit well with the audience.
 

Angeł

Angeł
Exhibit animals for a Tundra pack could include:
• Siberian Flying Squirrel (WE)
• Northern Flying Squirrel (WE)
• Arctic Wooly Bear Moth (WE)
• Great Arctic Butterfly (WE)
• Arctic Wolf Spider (E)
• Wood Frog (E)
• Viviparous Lizard (E)
• Red King Crab (E)
• Nudibranch (E)

Of course, the best choice would be a Snowy Owl, and I really wouldn’t rule it out as our first bird. It’s popular, can stand on its own, AND fits as a Walkthrough Exhibit animal! But of course, all of the Tundra Pack deniers will find a way to kill our joy. So take the above list as alternative options!
 

Angeł

Angeł
CharlieXGaming said:
Agreed.
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Wasn’t it specifically said by Frontier though that they choose a theme first, and THEN choose the animals to go along with it? So ‘which theme has more options for exhibit animals’ doesn’t really matter in the long run does it? Whatever theme they want, they’ll find animals to fill a roster. And they only need one viable exhibit option to make a pack. So it doesn’t decide anything either way
 

CharlieXGaming

CharlieXGaming
Emcee said:
Wasn’t it specifically said by Frontier though that they choose a theme first, and THEN choose the animals to go along with it? So ‘which theme has more options for exhibit animals’ doesn’t really matter in the long run does it? Whatever theme they want, they’ll find animals to fill a roster. And they only need one viable exhibit option to make a pack. So it doesn’t decide anything either way
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I mean they probably consider what animals can fit in a theme before they actually choose a theme especially considering we have things like the meta wishlist. For example, they probably decided ahead of time that whatever theme they choose, it has to have the Wolverine, which I am 90% sure we are getting next pack.

So I’m sure the question of “can we fit an interesting exhibit animal into this theme?” came up at some point before confirming the theme.
 

Angeł

Angeł
CharlieXGaming said:
I mean they probably consider what animals can fit in a theme before they actually choose a theme especially considering we have things like the meta wishlist. For example, they probably decided ahead of time that whatever theme they choose, it has to have the Wolverine, which I am 90% sure we are getting next pack.
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If there’s one thing we can all agree on, it’s the Wolverine 😂
Tundra 🤝 Mountains
 

Marvinb

Marvinb
Emcee said:
Wasn’t it specifically said by Frontier though that they choose a theme first, and THEN choose the animals to go along with it? So ‘which theme has more options for exhibit animals’ doesn’t really matter in the long run does it? Whatever theme they want, they’ll find animals to fill a roster. And they only need one viable exhibit option to make a pack. So it doesn’t decide anything either way
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Back in the day this was probably true.
But i think recently it shifted to "what interesting and/or requested animals can we make a theme around".
 

Doran

Doran
Emcee said:
Wasn’t it specifically said by Frontier though that they choose a theme first, and THEN choose the animals to go along with it? So ‘which theme has more options for exhibit animals’ doesn’t really matter in the long run does it? Whatever theme they want, they’ll find animals to fill a roster. And they only need one viable exhibit option to make a pack. So it doesn’t decide anything either way
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I dont exactly think why so many PZ believe it is otherwise. Such a simple concept lol.
 

KönigDerKaffeebohnen

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DarthQuell said:
Well, we can make the WEs null, so it shouldn't matter anyways.
That's what gets me annoyed: people say that the WEs are the wrong size, but they're the size of a small building. They say that the animals shouldn't be enclosed, but you can make them null. They say that they aren't creative, but you can literally put anything inside of them without breaking immersion plus habitat animals can walk in them when they're null
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"Small building" do you mean gigantic building?

"Creative" tell me how is an area that is forced to have an 8 meter long ugly straight path tickling your creativity?
It also significantly limits the terrain of the exhibit, aswell as the enritchment items having literally only one way to place them.

WEs are just as bad as normal exhibits and while they made a step forward with being able to be nulled they also took 3 back with the fixed gigantic size, static enritchment and forced paths
 
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