Xenobiology study of Thargoid Ship Logograms - Compendium

[CMDR RazorTooth]

Reporting in two passive "gary" (twitchy) interceptors, they appeared with another, normal interceptor, but that one emp-ed and jumped away without doing anything, leaving me with these two. Looks like a 1E-3 and a 2C-1.

2C-1

1E-3

No xeno-scan as they both stayed just beyond 500m

 

[KospY]

I think there may be something to this theory, but I noticed the reverse.

These confrontations were both at NHSS, individual ships.

This Cyclops was the first a tried to kill, I was getting hit a lot from it's anti system attack, but very little module damage. Only reason I had to bug out was because I ran out of missiles:

2B-3
http://www.carbryck.com/EDSCREENS/Cyclops_variant_01.jpg

This Cyclops was my second attempt. This time I had to bug out because of multiple systems failure, having to reboot FSD twice before getting away.
It definitely dealt more damage to me than the first one, as well as giving chase when I wanted to get away:

4D-3
http://www.carbryck.com/EDSCREENS/Cyclops_variant_02.jpg

Well it can be the reverse, less complete the circle, the more dangerous is the Thargoid...
It can also be the number of dot or something else.

Haha! yeah, the comparison has been made several times now, it's amazing...

@KospY: Since there are 3 inner markings and possibly up to 22 outer markings, we could have a total of 3x22=66 unique combinations. If there's no correlation between markings and behavior, then each of the behavioral categories will end up having 66 markings. There is much marking gathering to do!

I don't think there is a correlation between the outer ring and behavior.
However I'm not sure yet about the inner ring, there is only 3 of them and right now hyperdictor always seem to have a full inner circle. I need more report about this encounter, I'm especially interested about the marking of the first one (the one who hyperdict) to confirm or not.

I can confirm this one was way less aggressive as well.
1B-2
https://i.imgur.com/c9gQV1K.jpg

Well, my ship has just been destroyed by this one in a NHSS (not my screenshot, I'm lazy as it's the same marking):

Fortunately my escape pod was not scooped by the Thargoid
I'm not sure of what I did to irritate him, after dropping in he come to me to scan me as usual, and after that it started to drift on my left so I lost visual contact, I tried to get away however I was in reverse and maybe approached too close and he started shooting at me... I boosted away and tried to jump to supercruise however I was mass locked as he was chasing me. I did not hold for long as I was in a Diamondback without any shields

Anyways I took advantage of this and checked my log file: I was killed by "unknown" in a ship type scout, rank Elite. So if log file are not lying and we ignore the inner ring (I don't think it refer to rank) all Thargoid seem to have the same rank if I refer to this other post with a different marking.

If all Thargoid share the same rank that mean the outer ring mean something else, if we confirm that they are less or more aggressive relative to their outer ring another idea will be that marking identify their weaponry and defensive capabilities.

Edit: Anyway I can't help but think this markings are maybe just random, in this case Fdev must be laughing at us because we are all trying the decipher something useless.
That will be nice if Fdev can just drop an hint to confirm that we are not looking for nothing

 

[Maligno]

Reporting in two passive "gary" (twitchy) interceptors, they appeared with another, normal interceptor, but that one emp-ed and jumped away without doing anything, leaving me with these two. Looks like a 1E-3 and a 2C-1.

2C-1
https://i.imgur.com/I20nLBP.png?1

1E-3
https://i.imgur.com/FXMehTv.png?1

No xeno-scan as they both stayed just beyond 500m

Thanks for submitting these markings. We finally have solid proof of 1E, a marking we were unsure about.

@KospY: It's very possible that the markings are merely "cosmetic" and not something related to behavior or other attributes. Btw, these days I always fly in well-protected Python, precisely because some encounters can turn lethal and I don't want to lose my cargo (I could be carrying a Probe).

 

[Robbie84]

I found a crazy one. It is really different than others since there is no "crack". 2 full circles. I am looking at the graph but just cant see it... Anyway:

Pleiades Sector IR-W D1-55
USS - Non Human Signal Threat 5
Content: 1 "destroyed" Corvette

 

[Factabulous]

I found a crazy one. It is really different than others since there is no "crack". 2 full circles. I am looking at the graph but just cant see it... Anyway:

Pleiades Sector IR-W D1-55
USS - Non Human Signal Threat 5
Content: 1 "destroyed" Corvette

https://i.imgur.com/GrmHTjx.png

I would read that as 1C-1

But I may be misreading things completely.
1C => Grid location of the outer circle
1 => The inner circle (smaller list at the bottom)

 

[Maligno]

I would read that as 1C-1

But I may be misreading things completely.
1C => Grid location of the outer circle
1 => The inner circle (smaller list at the bottom)

Yes, that would be 1C-1 (the second 1 corresponds to the inner marking). Right now, the wrong one is entered as 1C-1 in the google drive.

 

[Kaltern]

It's very possible that the markings are merely "cosmetic" and not something related to behavior or other attributes.

Speaking in development terms, there's no way FDev would spend so much time and effort on introducing a scanner that specifically scans for these markings, if they were not crucial, or at least important in terms of the game itself.

 

[Factabulous]

Speaking in development terms, there's no way FDev would spend so much time and effort on introducing a scanner that specifically scans for these markings, if they were not crucial, or at least important in terms of the game itself.

Especially now we have a scanner that literally just tells us about the Logogram. We need to collect more instances so we can see if the frequency can tell us anything - at the moment the spread looks pretty even, but we have few data points. Report here: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/381230-Thargoid-Data-Gathering-Effort-We-need-your-help!

 

[Maligno]

Speaking in development terms, there's no way FDev would spend so much time and effort on introducing a scanner that specifically scans for these markings, if they were not crucial, or at least important in terms of the game itself.

Fair point.

 

[Siobhan]

Speaking in development terms, there's no way FDev would spend so much time and effort on introducing a scanner that specifically scans for these markings, if they were not crucial, or at least important in terms of the game itself.

They'll be available to buy in the cash store next week at £3 each.

 

[CDR Michael Darkmoor]

Olivia - Not Sure how to read your chart as it seems to have no orderly progression.

Look at 1D for instance... that symbol (just a dot) is in at least 4 (and possibly up to 6 ) different outer ring configuration scattered about your chart.

Occums Razor should apply here.... take the simple and build upon it.
What do the groups become if you take 1D, 7A, 4F and 4A (in that order) on a single line and look for similar progressions amoung the others.
you might find that there are fewer discrepancies.

just a thought

Edit: Oops just saw 4B as well... should be after 1D and before 7A.
If 4D is the same size dot it would fit in between these as well. If not, then it is another catagory or point along the circle.

The progression to a full circle seems to be what is indicated. It at least gives a frame of reference we can all see.

 

[S0fa C0mmand0]

I think I have a better res of a blue one.

This ship was from a hyperdiction. A "mimic" as they are being called.

http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/O0110001001001O/screenshot/7423104

 

[Kaltern]

They'll be available to buy in the cash store next week at £3 each.

Cynic

(probably right tho...)

 

[Factabulous]

Thargoid Plushies - gotta get 'em all

 

[Olivia Vespera]

So this has happened:

[tweet]914953734114902016[/tweet]

also, final image of credits are here:

I'm not going to update it with anymore credits until we can safely say whether the two possible symbols are real or not.

This is what's being submitted to Canonn's Codex.

 

[CMDR Dreamstate]

Found a completely round inner and outer circle:

 

[Kaltern]

So this has happened:

[tweet]914953734114902016[/tweet]

Shame it was Polygon...

 

[Maligno]

Found a completely round inner and outer circle:

https://i.imgur.com/pLljIyu.jpg

1C-1. I think that's everyone's favorite, have yet to see it myself =).

So this has happened:

[tweet]914953734114902016[/tweet]

also, final image of credits are here:

I'm not going to update it with anymore credits until we can safely say whether the two possible symbols are real or not.
https://i.imgur.com/wgDTWPg.png
This is what's being submitted to Canonn's Codex.

That's really cool, and congrats. The parallels to The Arrival are almost undeniable =).

 

[CDR Michael Darkmoor]

Found a completely round inner and outer circle:

https://i.imgur.com/pLljIyu.jpg

That one is likely a "Grand Poo-Bah" with it's two completed circles... if the theory of progression has any merit to it.
By chance, what was the Threat level of the instance when you guys dropped in?
https://imgur.com/8R5LeWR

I tried to rearranged Olivia's "final" to show some of the relationships of the graphics to each other. If it helps use it... if not toss it

 

[Cmdr Aeries Hunter]

Check out this picture comparing oresrian's vs a klaxian inner symbol. They are slightly different but the only one we've seen is the oresrian center symbol.
https://i.imgur.com/CYqmer2.jpg

Going to play the devils advecate here. How do you know that Klaxian and Oresian even exist? All we have is a book that may just be a good tale. We don't even know what parts are or are not part of the actual lore. For all we know those symbols could just be clan symbols since there are so many variations. One for a different clan. They could be rank symbols. A job designation. A mark of bravery. For all we know it could be the Thargoid equivalent of a McDonalds logo. Obviously they mean something, but i don't think they are a designation of just two factions. They could all be part of one faction and we still haven't encountered the other yet, if there is another. There is too little information as yet.