The Quest To Find Raxxla

[CMDRCorrMorningstarFelian]

Given my recent posting that shows Soontill appears to have been cover for the fact Raxxla was Guardian in origin, we now have a considerably limited search zone (as opposed to whole galaxy). This also narrows the search zones down rather considerably. We can now utilize Codex Map to locate Guardian locations which include the following:

Inner Orion Spur (nearest Guardian sites)
Inner Scutum-Centaurus Arm
Norma Expanse
Hawking's Gap (suspected)
Outer Orion Spur
Temple
Empyrean Straits
Elysian Shore (suspected but only Thargoids confirmed)
Sanguineous Rim (suspected but only Thargoids confirmed)

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If I had to guess Empyrean Straits near the core would be my guess given the globular clusters near the core of the galaxy. We already know where the edges of the Guardian sites are given the Codex Map rumors.

 

[CMDRCorrMorningstarFelian]

Ah, I get it!
The quest for Raxxla involves delving into the occult realms of efficient number crunching!
Test job on a 400 Ly cube with 96514 systems currently running at 0.08 s per outermost loop and accelerating.

Actually, we know where to look. We are looking for rumors of Guardian presence. We already have rough locations via Codex Map rumors. Given the rumors of Raxxla's connection to Saramandara Pearls, I'd be checking any globular and open clusters in regions of Guardian presence. We know where. Let's just finish it already. The Thargoids are no longer in play as the Soontill myth appears to be an elaborate fabrication.

 

[Louis Calvert]

Could you go over the connections between Soontil and Raxxla? I feel like I missed something.

From what I saw of your post, you were showing that Soontil wasn't Thargoid and was likely Guardian - something that could be possible indeed.

I'm not sure though how you get from there to any conclusions about Raxxla, what's the link I'm missing here?

 

[Sunyavadin]

The quest for Raxxla involves delving into the occult realms of efficient number crunching!

Careful, an overfixation on statistical correlations to the exclusion of obvious facts can lead to madness, just look at Anatoly Fomenko

 

[CMDRCorrMorningstarFelian]

According to myth of The Dark Wheel they found Soontill but not Raxxla. The Ryder brothers (sons of Alex Ryder) had split up with Oberon wanting to find Soontill (supposedly) believing it to be more important. Neptune on the other hand thought nothing other than Raxxla itself was worth it. Soontill according to the legend was loaded with Thargoid relics and technology. The wiki actually does a pretty decent job at explaining it all: https://elite-dangerous.fandom.com/wiki/Soontill

TL;DR: Soontill was the cover story used in order to claim Raxxla has not been found though it probably had by the time Jason Ryder's ship is destroyed in the first novella as he mentioned it to Alex Ryder during shoving him into an escape pod. The major problem with the story of Soontill is the star is too warm and the planet is utterly unlandable. Even the asteroid belt isn't really that big. Also, there was no brown dwarfs in the system labeled as Soontill and Technetium should not be possible in systems preferred by Thargoids (especially given its' radioactive nature and relatively short half-life of 211,000 years and very low production rates in AGB stars).

 

[Han_Zen]

According to myth of The Dark Wheel they found Soontill but not Raxxla. The Ryder brothers (sons of Alex Ryder) had split up with Oberon wanting to find Soontill (supposedly) believing it to be more important. Neptune on the other hand thought nothing other than Raxxla itself was worth it. Soontill according to the legend was loaded with Thargoid relics and technology. The wiki actually does a pretty decent job at explaining it all: https://elite-dangerous.fandom.com/wiki/Soontill

TL;DR: Soontill was the cover story used in order to claim Raxxla has not been found though it probably had by the time Jason Ryder's ship is destroyed in the first novella as he mentioned it to Alex Ryder during shoving him into an escape pod. The major problem with the story of Soontill is the star is too warm and the planet is utterly unlandable. Even the asteroid belt isn't really that big. Also, there was no brown dwarfs in the system labeled as Soontill and Technetium should not be possible in systems preferred by Thargoids (especially given its' radioactive nature and relatively short half-life of 211,000 years and very low production rates in AGB stars).

Soontill is just a prop in a story. FD didn't allow authors to do anything that involved Raxxla. Soontill was made up as an alternative mystical location because of this limitation.
I doubt that there is anything important to find in the novels written for ED, at all. The authors were kept fully in the dark, when it comes to the Raxxla mystery.
Unless FD fed them info they didn't know was about Raxxla, there aren't any useful hints in the books.

 

[CMDRCorrMorningstarFelian]

Soontill is just a prop in a story. FD didn't allow authors to do anything that involved Raxxla. Soontill was made up as an alternative mystical location because of this limitation.
I doubt that there is anything important to find in the novels written for ED, at all. The authors were kept fully in the dark, when it comes to the Raxxla mystery.
Unless FD fed them info they didn't know was about Raxxla, there aren't any useful hints in the books.

You forget the importance of shibboleths to the lore. If you plan on hiding something, oftentimes the best location in plain view buried under a maze of language serving as misdirection. Where do you think the Technetium and brown dwarf bit came from? It cam from "..And Here the Wheel". Shibboleths allow FDev to plant hints without directly revealing the reasons for them. Why else do you think the Church of the Path was in Shibboleth? Language is the devil's favorite weapon. The problem was that everyone thought, "The Dark Wheel" references TDW's station. No, those are quite obvious (the palm tree stations). The Dark Wheel is a human. The Dark Wheel is knowledge itself. I personally am rather fond of how Buddhism explains it:

The Buddha is said to have set the "wheel of dharma" in motion when he delivered his first sermon, which is described in the Dhammacakkappavattana Sutta. This "turning of the wheel" signifies a great and revolutionary change with universal consequences, brought about by an exceptional human being. Buddhism adopted the wheel as a symbol from the Indian mythical idea of the ideal king.."

This is why Nemorensis was important. We were to use knowledge to become our own king thus overthrowing the old ways. It is also why my character has the nickname of "Morningstar" (a.k.a "the light bringer"). Finally, also why I named my recently acquired fleet carrier the Dharmachakra.

 

[SpocksOddSocks]

Currently, not certain what I'm doing, mostly just exploring within the Bubble. I did visit all those known Gen Ship locations just to get the codex entries (something about having the logs in game makes it feel more immersive than reading them online, even without listening).

Anyway, I thought I'd give a heads up that a couple of them were already uncomfortably close to the Thargoid warzones. So anyone still wanting to collect them in live might want to do so soon.

As an aside, it looks like quite a few of them are similar distances from Sol as the Maelstroms seem to be posotioning themselves. Likely a coincidence/unrelated, but you never know.

 

[CMDRCorrMorningstarFelian]

Currently, not certain what I'm doing, mostly just exploring within the Bubble. I did visit all those known Gen Ship locations just to get the codex entries (something about having the logs in game makes it feel more immersive than reading them online, even without listening).

Anyway, I thought I'd give a heads up that a couple of them were already uncomfortably close to the Thargoid warzones. So anyone still wanting to collect them in live might want to do so soon.

As an aside, it looks like quite a few of them are similar distances from Sol as the Maelstroms seem to be posotioning themselves. Likely a coincidence/unrelated, but you never know.

Probably not an issue for us given we had fuel scoops by the time of the Federal response to the Mudlark extinction (2323) per Logistical Nightmare beacon in Beta Hydri and rapid expansion didn't start in earnest until 2230. Between this and the beacons and system description in Sirius, I would say fuel scoops were a thing before we ever left Sol. Raxxla, is likely well outside of human space. Even the official narrative on hyperspace technology has always had any Witchspace traversal took seconds. It was getting around the destination system that was a problem ( see Drew Wager's hyperspace lore video ). If my guess that the Soontill Relics cover story contains kernels of truth about the Raxxla system in order to be believable enough, it would put the minimum distance to somewhere between 1000-2000 LY given the location of the nearest Guardian sites and possibly a great deal further. Access to fuel really is the only good limitation we have.

 

[Edelgard von Rhein]

Having trouble finding Thargoid Probes, have been looking in NHSS Threat 4 and sometimes get a Sensor but no Probes yet. Tried looking for Thargoid Orthrus in Thargoid Alert systems but hardly any signal sources present at all, so I'm back in Delphi again. Banging my head against my own hypothesis of a myth is one thing but against RNG, sometimes you just do not win. Will try again tomorrow. If no luck then I might run the race anyway and see if something happens upon docking at Donar's Oak.

One thing I have noticed in my travels today in the Delphi system, which might just be space madness, is an abundance of Norse-themed NPC names. I've seen a Ratatosk (as a ship name) and a NPC called Vanir.

Lying down and coffee, maybe cake, is needed.

 

[Rochester]

Legacy Codex

OK so some time ago Cmdrs asked if the Legacy version of the Codex would ever be amended, as in that narrative content would be removed, or edited. So I popped in a Support ticket.

I kept it simple, not drilling too deeply into Raxxla nor DW specifically; so they did respond, stating that the Legacy Codex will not be updated, and yes the codex does contain a mixture of narrative elements.

 

[Macros Black]

is there a way to get all text that was written on the last 1423 pages?
then i could go and check each word if its a system Name in EDSM. and let my PC run a couple days.

One way could be to traverse all the pages automated using PowerShell with Selenium and saving the page as you go.

 

[CMDRCorrMorningstarFelian]

If you do anything like this, your best bet is First Encounters journals. The entries contain both the Universal Cartographics name schemes and older schemes. Be wary, ad the names are not always right next to each other in the same entry. Sometimes you had to use additional context to connect dots. Manuals also cover name schemes employed by each game. Unfortunately, each power has their own naming schemes. The FE journals are very lengthy. Additionally, the Frontier gazetteer is helpful but it appears several systems have entries for separate eras of their history where name changed repeatedly. If you haven't been to Andceeth (the first interstellar banking capital) you will notice the old news systems are referenced. The messiness comes from the political upheaval over the centuries.

 

[Allen Stroud]

Soontill is just a prop in a story. FD didn't allow authors to do anything that involved Raxxla. Soontill was made up as an alternative mystical location because of this limitation.
I doubt that there is anything important to find in the novels written for ED, at all. The authors were kept fully in the dark, when it comes to the Raxxla mystery.
Unless FD fed them info they didn't know was about Raxxla, there aren't any useful hints in the books.

Pretty accurate I'd say. Although, I wouldn't rule out Frontier then using the stories to develop ideas in game that related to narrative elements of the books and creating a Raxxla narrative that incorporated some of the ideas.

 

[Macros Black]

Where is Raxxla?

I asked ChatGTP - https://chat.openai.com/chat (signup required):

Where is Raxxla?

And the answer:

Raxxla is a mythical place in the universe of the Elite Dangerous video game series. It is said to be a hidden world or secret location that holds great power or treasure, but its existence and exact location are shrouded in mystery. Some players believe that Raxxla is an ancient alien artifact or a mythical planet, while others believe it is a secret society or an elusive conspiracy. The truth about Raxxla remains unknown, and many players continue to search for clues and explore the vast expanse of space in the game in the hopes of uncovering its secrets.

 

[CMDRCorrMorningstarFelian]

Pretty accurate I'd say. Although, I wouldn't rule out Frontier then using the stories to develop ideas in game that related to narrative elements of the books and creating a Raxxla narrative that incorporated some of the ideas.

This is hard science fiction. The dystopian elements are there, though it isn't always obvious how much they play a role. In the game's first year we had numerous news outlets then they were gradually shuttered with varying excuses. The Pilot's Federation has near absolute control at this point and if you haven't been to Shinrarta Dezra you owe yourself the trip. Even if your are suspicious of how much usefulness the books can be I'd like you consider the history of the Elite Universe and remember just how much different the media environment used to be from how it is now. Also, do yourself the favor and read, "Language as the “Ultimate Weapon” in Nineteen Eighty-Four".

By all means, don't take my word for it either. Do your research and make your own mind. After all, I am the betrayer of the powers that be if what I have said is even so much as a half truth. Mr Stroud, after all only wrote the part about a certain propagandist by the name of Dr. Hans Walden so his perspective is certainly worthy of consideration.

 

[Louis Calvert]

Having trouble finding Thargoid Probes, have been looking in NHSS Threat 4 and sometimes get a Sensor but no Probes yet. Tried looking for Thargoid Orthrus in Thargoid Alert systems but hardly any signal sources present at all,

Same, same! Sensors are ten a penny but really coming up short on Probes. You used to be able to get them around Ammonia worlds too but I haven't seen one of those for ages

 

[Jorki Rasalas]

Having trouble finding Thargoid Probes, have been looking in NHSS Threat 4 and sometimes get a Sensor but no Probes yet. Tried looking for Thargoid Orthrus in Thargoid Alert systems but hardly any signal sources present at all, so I'm back in Delphi again. Banging my head against my own hypothesis of a myth is one thing but against RNG, sometimes you just do not win. Will try again tomorrow. If no luck then I might run the race anyway and see if something happens upon docking at Donar's Oak.

One thing I have noticed in my travels today in the Delphi system, which might just be space madness, is an abundance of Norse-themed NPC names. I've seen a Ratatosk (as a ship name) and a NPC called Vanir.

Lying down and coffee, maybe cake, is needed.

Have you tried asking on the AXI area?
There’s still activity on this thread

New red-orange dot approaching the bubble at 0.8ly per minute-- Thargoid mothership?

More likely they’ve underestimated the difficulty (a consistent FD failing observed over 7 years!) and will amend the parameters to something sensible when the error is pointed out to them loudly enough by sufficient players. Whoever designs/tests these gameplay elements don’t seem to actually...

forums.frontier.co.uk

 

[Han_Zen]

Trying to supercruise here:

I'll send you a postcard

 

[Macros Black]

Having trouble finding Thargoid Probes, have been looking in NHSS Threat 4 and sometimes get a Sensor but no Probes yet. Tried looking for Thargoid Orthrus in Thargoid Alert systems but hardly any signal sources present at all, so I'm back in Delphi again. Banging my head against my own hypothesis of a myth is one thing but against RNG, sometimes you just do not win. Will try again tomorrow. If no luck then I might run the race anyway and see if something happens upon docking at Donar's Oak.

One thing I have noticed in my travels today in the Delphi system, which might just be space madness, is an abundance of Norse-themed NPC names. I've seen a Ratatosk (as a ship name) and a NPC called Vanir.

Lying down and coffee, maybe cake, is needed.

Try the science ship. See https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/the-quest-to-find-raxxla.168253/page-1307#post-9824310

PS: The yield was very low...