OK, Tyko is looking for a FC lift to either Colonia or back to the bubble. I'm sure I've seen FC planned departure/routing info on the sysmap somewhere. Do I have to dock with the FC before seeing that? seems a bit of a silly way to do things if so
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According to sources, you need to use 3rd party tools - I've not seen this ingame (unless you're on a carrier that has already initiated a jump).
The ELW is called ‘Way’ well aware this is projection, I don’t actually believe it’s ‘the way’ but in a haystack of leads this is as good as any based upon its proximity."It's the Wyrding Way"!
There’s also a planet called ’Lister’.
yes, I have the FC Owners Club Discord Departures Board open at the moment. But looking at the FC in sysmap at Sag A* & I cant see any routing info for any of them...
the FC mentioned on the FCOC Departures Board aren't here yet, and I can't find their current location via the galmap search. Thought that would be accessible even if owner not logged in.
the FC mentioned on the FCOC Departures Board aren't here yet, and I can't find their current location via the galmap search. Thought that would be accessible even if owner not logged in.
As I mentioned in my post we are all part of the Pilots' Federation by default. We're not random spacefaring peoples, we were inducted into the PF when we were gifted a ship and training and a pilot's licence by the PF and the mysterious benefactor. That's why ships and stuff for us are dirt cheap, because PF members get massive discounts.
Colonia was founded by players, therefore, the Pilots' Federation.
Our ship interfaces are made by the Pilots' Federation, that's why there's the PF symbol on our ship interfaces.
The interfaces within the stations we interact with are the Pilots' Federation section of the station interface, hence the use of the PF symbol.
Galmp is owned/managed by the PF, hence the use of the symbol there.
The Dark Wheel is a sub-faction of the PF, hence the use of the PF symbol on the Dark Wheel logo. That's explicitly stated in the Shinrarta tourist beacons. Though if Lyta Crane is right, the Dark Wheel pre-date the PF by centuries.
The vast majority of the trillions of people in the galaxy aren't part of the PF. It's essentially supposed to be the players and (presumably) Fdev as the "Management/special groups" of the Pilots' Federation - that's a relatively minuscule amount of people wielding an immense amount of power.
This isn't me hypothesising, this is literally the game lore
Further to that, there's an addendum on the intro letter in the manual that heavily implies that the Dark Wheel (not named) are testing us right from the very start. The whole process right from the first time you boot up the game is "part of the test".
Apologies, I should have included all this in my post recently, I assumed it was general knowledge
The manual (available to all, top left of the game launcher) says this:
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We might be talking at slightly cross-purposes. I was just moaning that FD have published a Galnet post of part two of a reporter’s retrospective of the last year without first publishing the first part of her article. FD have done this sort of thing before. I suspect the first part was scheduled to go out over the weekend but failed to be sent for some reason...
Yes, I have noticed with interest in the past the use of the PF’s winged symbol for Colonia. I’ve wondered if it might be a hint that Jaques is TDW? I suspect it is meaningful, but can’t decide how. I’ve been allied with Jaques and a few other factions out there for a while, but not got any unusual response. I think on completion of this trip Jorki is going to stay at Colonia and leave Tyko to make any further QfR investigations....I’ve got another half dozen hypotheses to check out around the bubble, but am a bit exhausted after testing this Gravitational Wave hypothesis of the Toast. Not yet figured out what distances Ive flown in its testing, but it’s been a very long journey for both accounts! Might check it out when Jorki reaches Colonia.
No idea about the shield symbol! Report it as a bug and see if it gets any response!
We might be talking at slightly cross-purposes. I was just moaning that FD have published a Galnet post of part two of a reporter’s retrospective of the last year without first publishing the first part of her article. FD have done this sort of thing before. I suspect the first part was scheduled to go out over the weekend but failed to be sent for some reason...
Yes, I have noticed with interest in the past the use of the PF’s winged symbol for Colonia. I’ve wondered if it might be a hint that Jaques is TDW? I suspect it is meaningful, but can’t decide how. I’ve been allied with Jaques and a few other factions out there for a while, but not got any unusual response. I think on completion of this trip Jorki is going to stay at Colonia and leave Tyko to make any further QfR investigations....I’ve got another half dozen hypotheses to check out around the bubble, but am a bit exhausted after testing this Gravitational Wave hypothesis of the Toast. Not yet figured out what distances Ive flown in its testing, but it’s been a very long journey for both accounts! Might check it out when Jorki reaches Colonia.
No idea about the shield symbol! Report it as a bug and see if it gets any response!
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My current guess on that is why I have suspected Jaques is far more important to the story than merely an interesting character. When we are introduced he is in Facece where there is Peter's Wreck (planet) and Peter's Base (his old Coriolis). If Jaques is merely an pseudonym, this may explain the symbol because he might just be the founder of the Pilots' Federation. Peter Jameson was after all the first Elite CMDR. There is no way to verify he died in Riedquat as nothing is landable. This was in the letter in Frontier and First Encounters.
Of course. But we need to observe whats missing. It's not being used in any other categories.
PF symbols only being used in certain situations.
Does it mean anything? Perhaps not.
Yes, I just used it to establish this is without doubt the very symbol of PF. I didn't want to state the obvious.
Or the other way around. Perhaps TDW was such a shady club that it needed PF, made sure it was establised in the right manner in order to find the best of the best, in order to outcompete the competition.
We can't really be sure who the founders of PF nor the TDW is - and in what order they came to life. That's in the nature of having a shady cabal.
Or perhaps I've missed some lore who tells us specifically who came first and who founded what.
Yes, it is the game lore. and yes, those facts are obvious.This isn't me hypothesising, this is literally the game lore
Further to that, there's an addendum on the intro letter in the manual that heavily implies that the Dark Wheel (not named) are testing us right from the very start. The whole process right from the first time you boot up the game is "part of the test".
Apologies, I should have included all this in my post recently, I assumed it was general knowledg
TDW testing us, that would also justify them playing their game to establish the PF for this very purpose.
So we can actually look at it both ways. PF being a section of TDW, or TDW being a section of PF.
But this doesn't bring us more facts or certainty.
I just like to look at the missing gaps and see if Occam's razor works better.
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I see. They posted part1 quite early on (june) and part 2 six months later.@John [Panzertard] Stoutbeard
We might be talking at slightly cross-purposes. I was just moaning that FD have published a Galnet post of part two of a reporter’s retrospective of the last year without first publishing the first part of her article. FD have done this sort of thing before. I suspect the first part was scheduled to go out over the weekend but failed to be sent for some reason...
Yes, I have noticed with interest in the past the use of the PF’s winged symbol for Colonia. I’ve wondered if it might be a hint that Jaques is TDW? I suspect it is meaningful, but can’t decide how. I’’Ve been allied with Jaques and a few other factions out there for a while, but not got any unusual response.
No idea about the shield symbol! Report it as a bug and see if it gets any response!
But they could have referenced part1 in part 2 so folks could have found it. Agree
Re PF+Colonia = Jaques. Yeah, I'm open for the possibility.
Re Buggy settlement symbol and ask support? Nah, personally I like to use the game itself to figure these things out. But I don't mind of anyone else wants to try that route.
I did spend some time there, some public beacons to scan with the SRV, fines & bounties to be had for trespassing on Foot. Nothing new discovered though.
They did have quite A LOT of turrets for protection though.
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I think TDW (if they truly exist!) came first-according to the Codex they’ve been “operating since the very earliest days of interstellar travel”. Whereas the PF officially originated later “founded in 2805” according to TB0244 in SD.
However I actually suspect the driving force behind PF is Guardian in origin, perhaps an AI...from the similarity of the obelisk symbols and the triangular motif briefly apparent in the HUD nav panel and Universal Cartographics interface.
However I actually suspect the driving force behind PF is Guardian in origin, perhaps an AI...from the similarity of the obelisk symbols and the triangular motif briefly apparent in the HUD nav panel and Universal Cartographics interface.
Ah, I did a galnet search on the reporter’s name and didnt see any mention of a part one!
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Re settlement shield symbol: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/shield-icon-next-to-settlements.611052/
Same here - agreed O7, the Codex might be alluding to the DW source location, eg it’s still there, or maybe… it was moved? Jaques origin system has a gas giant with an eighth moon!
Post in thread 'The Quest To Find Raxxla'
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/the-quest-to-find-raxxla.168253/post-9733742
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Yes, kinda confusing. Previously in Horizon '+++' indicated security level. The shield has 'levels' too (empty, half-full, full) but it's hard to understand whether it means "security level in foot" or something else. Poor & confusing design.
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I was thinking more along the lines that TDW is a “legendary group of adventurers, explorers, investigators and treasure-hunters”. Also clandestine and originating a long time ago.
Jaques was a special forces soldier, so used to a clandestine existence. He’s lived a long time, so must have made a lot of contacts. He owns and runs a Spacer’s Bar that TDW members must have frequented and discussed things in, he may well have overheard things. His intended station jump from the bubble out to Beagle Point was pretty adventurous and would certainly have attracted TDW attention if he wasn’t already a member by then. So I’m fairly confident that he is a member, if not the controlling force.
I did investigate ages ago his station jumps around the bubble prior to the Beagle Point attempt but didnt find anything. However that might be worth reinvestigating! Those jumps alone might have been a clue to something! Possibly to other factions of TDW?
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However I see he had to exchange the Coriolis he had bought for a “more resilient Orbis” station, so maybe he was just testing that out before the Beagle Point attempt???
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Yes, FD seem to have a bit of a cavalier view of the playerbase. It would have been a good idea to update the Players Manual with that sort of info, as well as mentioning it in the change notes. My ESP ability has been blunted by the weight of the ages...
I treated myself to a late xmas present yesterday...I bought X4 Foundations and the first three expansions for when I feel the need for a storyline
Colonia 7 has the 8 moons of an "unnamed gas giant" which is technically the truth just like with Facece it is a Y-class brown dwarf. Also, wasn't Peter Jameson a Federal Navy guy? Jaques was a Federation Special Ops guy.
Likewise, treated myself too, Cloudpunk on PS4 sale, I’m tinkering with simple/yet pretty games presently, not wanted to get too distracted from ED which used to be my primary passion, sadly I’m playing less and less, although I likely play ‘this thread’ more
Remind us, which systems did Jaques visit prior to his disappearance, I feel like footling about with some mapping..
Remind us, which systems did Jaques visit prior to his disappearance, I feel like footling about with some mapping..
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This should have background before the big jump:Likewise, treated myself too, Cloudpunk on PS4 sale, I’m tinkering with simple/yet pretty games presently, not wanted to get too distracted from ED which used to be my primary passion, sadly I’m playing less and less, although I likely play ‘this thread’ more
Remind us, which systems did Jaques visit prior to his disappearance, I feel like footling about with some mapping..
Jaques Station
Jaques Station is an Orbis Starport currently located in the Colonia system. Owned by the eccentric Jaques, it is unique among stations in that it is equipped with engines and is capable of traveling to different systems; all other stations, with the exception of those undergoing construction...
elite-dangerous.fandom.com
Look at history section and first one is Gliese 1269.
Sorry, havent got it to hand & lift has arrived- just off for New Years Day dinner (boozy) so wont be fit state afterwards. The stops were listed in Galnet- do a search on Jaques.Likewise, treated myself too, Cloudpunk on PS4 sale, I’m tinkering with simple/yet pretty games presently, not wanted to get too distracted from ED which used to be my primary passion, sadly I’m playing less and less, although I likely play ‘this thread’ more
Remind us, which systems did Jaques visit prior to his disappearance, I feel like footling about with some mapping..