Analyzing required animals by Taxonomical group

Discussion #11: Small cats, xenarthrans, Geckos, bugs

What we have:

Small cats:
  1. Cheetah
  2. Clouded leopard
  3. Cougar
  4. Eurasian lynx
  5. Caracal
Xenarthrans (anteaters, sloths, armadillos):
  1. Giant anteater
  2. Nine banded armadillo
Geckos:
None

Bugs:
  1. Goliath Beetle
  2. Sacred Scarab Beetle
  3. Titan Beetle
  4. Giant burrowing Cockroach
  5. Giant Malayan leaf insect
  6. Cloudless Sulphur
  7. European Peacock
  8. Menelaus Blue Morpho
  9. Monarch
  10. Old World Swallowtail
Explain what you think is still needed from the aforementioned groups, and give your reasoning as to why. Take into account that slots in the roster are not unlimited, so try to keep the discussion realistic.
These are all of my choices from these four different groups:

Small Cats
I do think at least one or two true small cats would really add to the game. The Asiatic golden cat is probably my favourite species, but their rarity in captivity means they can hardly be considered essential. The black-footed cat is still found in a number of American zoos but is now absent in Europe - they are one of the smallest of all wild cats and should have correspondingly tiny habitat requirements, which would make for an interesting animal. And European wildcats are very commonly-kept in zoos in Europe and would add to a temperate forest or Mediterranean display. I think my two favoured choices however are the margay (the most arboreal of all cats, very different from anything else currently in-game) from Central and South America and the fishing cat (a semi-aquatic species) from South and Southeast Asia. If just one slot were available, I would probably err towards the fishing cat.

Xenarthrans
A Linne's two-toed sloth would be nice, but the ongoing discussions on how it would actually work in-game makes me a bit cautious to say it is necessary. The last thing I would want is for the animal to come to the game and then feel unusable because it behaves so unrealistically. A Southern tamandua would also be a good addition, but I wouldn't say they are an essential animal.

Geckos
As one of the biggest lizard families, I would say at least two species of gecko are necessary - one arboreal and one terrestrial species. While the leopard gecko is the most commonly-kept terrestrial gecko, I would go for a more impressive but otherwise similar species - the Iranian fat-tailed gecko Eublepharis angramainyu (also known as the Iraqi eyelid gecko). It is in the same genus as the leopard gecko, but has the advantage of being considerably bigger. The picture below shows an Iranian fat-tailed and leopard gecko side-by-side; the leopard gecko is the lower animal. They are not hugely common in zoos - two zoos listed on Zootierliste, plus a slightly larger number of zoos in America, but their impressive size ultimately wins the day for me.

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As for an arboreal gecko, the most obvious picks are either the tokay or Madagascar giant day gecko. However, I will vouch this time for the turquoise dwarf gecko. It is a fairly small species from montane rainforests in Tanzania, but they make up for their diminutive size by being brightly coloured, critically endangered and common in zoos - here in the UK, they are more common than tokay geckos and draw with the Madagascar giant day gecko, both being kept in 20 zoos.

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Insects
This is quite a difficult one for me, personally speaking. I find insects to be one of the most important animals in a zoo (I will genuinely spend more time looking at insects than, say, elephants or meerkats) and currently there are surprisingly few good options - I would say only two of the beetles, the cockroach, leaf insect and two of the five butterflies are regular in captivity, with all the others being either very localised (the three temperate butterflies) or absent (titan beetle). I have divided them up into several major taxonomic groups:

Beetles - There are so many options for beetles that it is quite insane, and having to choose the most important one verges on impossible. Perhaps the most commonly-kept are the Pachnoda sun beetles, but they are often effective as exhibits in huge numbers as they are not very large. A slightly larger African species that could work well in smaller numbers are the Eudicella buffalo beetles; they are all brightly coloured, the males have impressive horns on their heads and they are all kept and bred commonly in captivity. Below is the jade-headed buffalo beetle, Eudicella smithii.
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Cockroaches - The Madagascar hissing cockroach is the most obvious and commonly-kept species, but I do have a real soft spot for the Simandoa cave cockroach. Quite colourful, highly sociable and currently thought to be extinct in the wild - their entire native range (a single cave in Guinea) was destroyed to build a bauxite mine in 2004. They share the cave with Egyptian fruit bats, which would link them very well to the current walkthrough exhibit species.
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Stick insects - While we have the leaf insect, a more standard stick insect is still missing. I would say at least two species are needed - even my local zoo, which only has five invertebrate species, keeps two species. One spot I would reserve for the golden-eyed stick insect Peruphasma schultei, a critically endangered species from the forests of Peru. The second spot would be for a more traditional species - the giant stick insect Tirachoidea jiangfenglingensis of Southeast Asia is one of the largest stick insects, making it my preferred choice. The below pictures shown the golden-eyed on the left and the giant on the right.
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Grasshoppers - Probably the most common grasshopper in captivity is the desert locust, but I would prefer something more interesting. A colourful smaller grasshopper, either the Surinam grasshopper Tetrataenia surinama of South America or the painted grasshopper Zonocerus variegatus of tropical Africa would be my favourite choice. The Surinam grasshopper is in the right-hand picture below, with the painted grasshopper in the left-hand one.
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Mantises - One of the biggest missing species for me is a praying mantis. What I think is necessary is a striking-looking mantis, which is large enough to warrant its big enclosure and, most importantly, not so cannibalistic that only one or two could be kept in an exhibit. Fortunately, there is one that fits all three requirements perfectly - the giant devil's flower mantis Idolomantis diabolica of the African savannah. They are among the world's largest mantises and because they only eat small flying insects they can be kept communally.
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True bugs - While most of this family are not kept in captivity, I would venture towards saying that an assassin bug is necessary. The white-spotted assassin bug is the most commonly-kept species, but I would err towards the horrid king assassin bug Psytalla horrida. They are also commonly kept and bred in captivity, but have the added advantage of being the world's largest assassin bug species.
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Butterflies - I do wish that the butterflies had been delayed to a tropical pack, so more standard butterfly house species could be included. With the chances of lots more butterflies unlikely, I have chosen what I consider to be the single most important species - the paper kite butterfly Idea leuconoe.
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Social insects - I'm not certain how well social insects would work, but I do think that honeybees are an important addition, plus a species of ant. While leaf-cutting ants are the most famous, they are actually surprisingly difficult to keep. I might err towards a more arid-adapted species such as the honeypot ant Myrmecocystus mexicanus from the deserts of North America - the hanging repletes would be easier to animate, with the workers just running around rapidly on the surface.
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Small Cats: I don't really get the community disdain for more felines, especially with how widespread and versatile small cats can be in zoos. Everyone has their preferences of course, and similar to new world monkeys I don't think a massive number need to be added to the game, but certainly 2 or 3 more species to help even the balance with big cats couldn't hurt.
•Ocelot: I think this is the best candidate from the New World felines for a spot. They're more well known compared to some other options like margay or Geoffrey's cat, and have a wide range across many biomes.
•Serval: wouldn't be my first choice, but arguably the more popular choice from old world cats. Extremely common in captivity and would make a great option for lower budget zoos as well as fleshing iut Africa sections.
As much as I love fishing and sand cats, I would say the above two have smaller chances of getting in the game or would be as necessary to its roster. If I had to pick between them, I think the sand cat has a better chance of getting in than the Fishing Cat.

Xenarthrans: Honestly this one could be left as is and I don't think the game would be any worse off. While the Southern tamandua is one of my most wanted animals I wouldn't say they are essential, they'd just be a nice bolster to. The sloth is interesting, as I feel like this is the most easy include but also the easiest to mess up. Two toed sloths are the ones most commonly kept in captivity, but three toed sloths are the more recognizable. So it feels a potential to upset either side of the community. Lastly while I don't think we need another armadillo it feels like frontier really likes to have pairs of animals in game, so I wouldn't count it out completely.

Geckos: more exhibit lizards is never a bad thing, and it feels silly to not have any representation for one of the largest and most diverse families of lizards.
•Leachie Gecko: the largest gecko species in the world, common in private and public collections, gives a slight bit of representation to New Calendonia. Definitely the first choice.
•Tokay gecko: Decently sized, visually striking, adds a much needed exhibit animal to Asia.

Bugs: Another case of I think we're good but more would be nice. I personally can't think of any species I would say are essential to the game.
 
Not sure I understsnd the reasoning here.
We've gotten a new cat in nearly every other DLC with surprising consistency - we once had a stretch of two DLCs with no cats (Australia > Aquatic), but this was "corrected" by getting two in a row the following year (NA > Europe). Otherwise, it's been every other pack. And while I don't want to make bold claims based on what is still a small sample size, there's clearly a reason cats have appeared in so many DLCs. They're are some of the most popular species to the general public, it's common for zoos to exhibit a variety of species, and there's still several left that are fairly popular and well known. Basically I see no reason to expect the cat train to suddenly slam on brakes after all this time.
 
I'm gonna do something more efficient this time around, and summarize the last 3 discussions st once.

So everyone has 2 days before the next discussion, and I encourage everyone to read back on other people's answers and see if they change your prioritirs or illuminate some species you didn't consider before.
 
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Discussion #11: Small cats, xenarthrans, Geckos, bugs

What we have:

Small cats:
  1. Cheetah
  2. Clouded leopard
  3. Cougar
  4. Eurasian lynx
  5. Caracal

Xenarthrans (anteaters, sloths, armadillos):
  1. Giant anteater
  2. Nine banded armadillo
Geckos:
None

Bugs:
  1. Goliath Beetle
  2. Sacred Scarab Beetle
  3. Titan Beetle
  4. Giant burrowing Cockroach
  5. Giant Malayan leaf insect
  6. Cloudless Sulphur
  7. European Peacock
  8. Menelaus Blue Morpho
  9. Monarch
  10. Old World Swallowtail

Explain what you think is still needed from the aforementioned groups, and give your reasoning as to why. Take into account that slots in the roster are not unlimited, so try to keep the discussion realistic.
Small Cats:
Outside of adding more species to represent certain parts of the world, I don't think we need more small cats. However, I do think it's likely we'll see two this year purely because of how marketable they are. The two biggest species in my eyes are the Ocelot and the Pallas's Cat. Ocelots are fairly iconic (they're literally in Minecraft for crying out loud) and adds rep for South, Central and even pockets of North America. While similar, I think it's visually distinct enough from the Jaguar and Clouded Leopard. Pallas's Cat has become a small meme due to their unique appearance, and have a fairly vocal following on the forums themselves. Outside of those two, I wouldn't mind the Sand Cat and I would absolutely love the Serval, although being more African cats diminishes their necessity imo (Sand Cat is more important imo due to it also being Arabian rep).

Xenarthrans:
Literally all we need is a sloth. Linnaeus's Two-Toed Sloth to be exact, though I'd take Hoffmann's instead if necessary. If we had more space, I'd advocate for the Southern Tamandua and Southern Three-Banded Armadillo as small species with large enough captive presences in both smaller and large zoos, but I can only really see the tamandua happening realistically out of the two and even then it's only as an out of left field pick.

Geckos:
Ooh boy. I don't think we're gonna get any to be honest, but we desperately need a few. There are three main types of gecko (using my flawed system of appearance) we need to cover, "classic" geckos, day geckos and leaf-tailed geckos. I nominate the Tokay Gecko, Madagascar Giant Day Gecko and the Satanic Leaf-Tailed Gecko for the sake of variety. There's also the common pet Leopard Gecko as a more terrestrial gecko, the New Caledonia Giant Gecko for just a chonker, and the Electric Blue Gecko is really visually striking and has the conservation value to boot. I doubt we'd get even one gecko over something like a chameleon (also desperately needed, lizards have been shafted way too hard in this game wth), but I just wanted to show just how much we could see (I've probably even missed a really notable species).

Insects:
Oh boy, why'd you make this just one section of a larger discussion? Because of limited roster space, the only insects that should be classed as anywhere near necessary for the roster should be wholly unique taxonomically from what we have. The big 3 imo are Mantids, Orthopterans (grasshoppers and the like), and Ants. Mantids are incredibly unique morphology-wise and honestly fascinating for idle animations, I'd pick either the classic European Mantis or the Orchid Mantis for the unique colouration. For orthopterans, the Desert Locust is an icon due to their infamous swarms and can be surprisingly striking in colouration, though a species of giant weta would also do wonders for New Zealand rep. For ants, it obviously has to be Leafcutter Ants, too iconic not to choose, though they'd need a unique exhibit and a way to make the "every animal is an individual" angle of the game work out somehow. There's also bees and termites, which'd also need unique exhibits, but I'm not as fussed on species, and there's all the other species of butterflies, beetles and cockroaches that could make worthy inclusions (Paper Kite Butterfly, Hercules Beetle and Madagascar Hissing Cockroach all come to mind). I also wanna mention Giant Water Bugs, don't care what species, they're just really cool looking and would make for a unique exhibit for a bug, same with some species of Stick Insect, though slightly less unique. Way too many bugs to look at and name and... why do the exhibits have to be shafted this much???
 
So everyone has 2 days before the next discussion, and I encourage everyone to read back on other people's answers and see if they change your prioritirs or illuminate some species you didn't consider before.
So species I did not consider before were:

Pallas's cat (I'll admit that it is more essemtial than the fishing cat because of the fact that steppe animals are under represented compared to rainforest animals)
Domestic yak (One of the more accepted domestics and anything for Asian highlands and steppes is a win for me)
Night monkey (a "safer" animal to add than teeny tiny marmosets and tamarins)
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Discussion #11: Small cats, xenarthrans, Geckos, bugs

What we have:

Small cats:
  1. Cheetah
  2. Clouded leopard
  3. Cougar
  4. Eurasian lynx
  5. Caracal

Xenarthrans (anteaters, sloths, armadillos):
  1. Giant anteater
  2. Nine banded armadillo
Geckos:
None

Bugs:
  1. Goliath Beetle
  2. Sacred Scarab Beetle
  3. Titan Beetle
  4. Giant burrowing Cockroach
  5. Giant Malayan leaf insect
  6. Cloudless Sulphur
  7. European Peacock
  8. Menelaus Blue Morpho
  9. Monarch
  10. Old World Swallowtail

Explain what you think is still needed from the aforementioned groups, and give your reasoning as to why. Take into account that slots in the roster are not unlimited, so try to keep the discussion realistic.
Small cats: I don't think any of them is essential, but a really small cat would be really nice to have, specially one of the Americas. The obvious pick would be the Ocelot, but to be honest, that wouldn't really add a small cat. So my first pick, would be the Oncilla, which has a similar distribution and appearance, is considered vulnerable and is way smaller (weighing under 3 kg). As I know there are a lot of players who like color morphs, this would also be the ideal species. Altough, the Margay wouldn't be a bad option either, specially behavior-wise.
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Here's a picture of a Northern oncilla.
Another Asian cat would also be cool, but I would like to get other species first.

Xenarthrans: after the giant anteater and the nine-baned armadillo, I don't need more. But as a sloth ranks so high on most wishlists, I really expect that it will come sooner or later. In this case, I'm hoping to get the Linne's two-toed sloth or at least the Hoffmann's, but a three-toed wouldn't be too good, as their diet is difficult to recreate under human care. I honestly hope to get them in the WE, as they would probably need way too much space and would spend way too much time on the ground.
A tamandua would also be nice, but is low priority for me.

Geckos: I don't think that we will return to the exhibit boxes, but if I have to choose a gecko, I would go with the Electric blue gecko, as a highly endangered species. The tokeh would also be cool, as one of the biggest geckos and whose population is declining rapidly.

Insects: we're having the same problem as before and I can't really think of insects that are missing other than a mantis species. But before getting any other species of insects, I'm hoping for an exhibit overhaul.
 
Last few discussions take quite a while to summarize, thanks to all the amazing suggestions. While I'm finishing up, here's the next one.


Discussion #12: Lagomorphs, Hyraxes, Pangolins, flamingos and grebes*

What we have:

Lagomorphs (hares, rabbits and pikas):
None

Hyraxes:
None

Pangolins:
  1. Chinese pangolin

Flamingos and grebes*:
  1. Greater flamingo

Explain what you think is still needed from the aforementioned groups, and give your reasoning as to why. Take into account that slots in the roster are not unlimited, so try to keep the discussion realistic.

*new aviary rule: until aviaries arrive, aviary animals can't be included. if there's any doubt your candidate can be a habitat animal you need to provide an example of the animal being kept in a open habitat.
 
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Discussion #12: Lagomorphs, Hyraxes, Pangolins, flamingos and grebes*

My list here is short.

We need the European rabbit. It is cute and marketable, and of course recognisable. But it is also endangered. On the animal distribution map thread there's a big gap in Spain where the rabbit icon would fit perfectly.

Then I don't need a hyrax, another pangolin or a grebe (I didn't even know what the last is 😂).

For flamingo, the Caribbean flamingo would be nice for diversity, but it's not essential to me.
 
For Lagomorphs I would choose either very common and largest, if I'm not mistaken, European Brown Hare. Alternative would be one of the American Jackrabbit species. Accompanying one of them, I would like to see tundra alternative in Snowshoe Hare. But all that goes with acknowledgment that Lagomorphs aren't necessarily the most essential animals we need in game. In my eyes at least.

Rock Hyrax on the other hand would be much better addition, again for me, than any rabbit/hare. It has huge range and can represent both Middle East and Deserts in general. Also very unique animal order. Erm I have no idea if there are several species of Hyraxes so I'm just fine with whichever.

I don't think we need more than one pangolin species in game. And more flamingoes would surely be welcome, but I could not give them a DLC slot any time soon. If I had to choose my vote would go to very interesting Andean Flamingo.

Edit: Forgot Grebes, but they're far from essential for me until we get some more common waterfowls
 
My list here is short.

We need the European rabbit. It is cute and marketable, and of course recognisable. But it is also endangered. On the animal distribution map thread there's a big gap in Spain where the rabbit icon would fit perfectly.

Then I don't need a hyrax, another pangolin or a grebe (I didn't even know what the last is 😂).

For flamingo, the Caribbean flamingo would be nice for diversity, but it's not essential to me.
A grebe is an aquatic diving bird that kinda looks like a duck
 
My choices for this list, with some explanations.

Lagomorphs:
While in the past I have been very keen on either hares or volcano rabbits, my preferred choice currently is the European rabbit. Rather than going for any domestic breed, which immediately locks out anywhere that breed is not commonly kept, I would go for the wild rabbit and give it several morphs that naturally occur in wild rabbits (black, albino and ginger definitely). This would add one of the most charismatic European mammals, which is sociable and endangered to boot.

Hyraxes:
While here in Europe there are currently four species of hyrax kept in zoos, my favoured choice is the rock hyrax. The most commonly-kept species, the broadest in terms of biomes and also the most widespread, making it into the Middle East. They are also quite amenable to living in mixed exhibits with species like aardvarks and can live in walkthrough enclosures, which I also consider positives. I'm not sure I would consider them essential however.

Pangolins:
While I wouldn't mind an African pangolin, like the white-bellied tree pangolin, they are nowhere near essential for me.

Flamingos and Grebes:
Personally, my favoured option for a new flamingo would be the Chilean flamingo. It is a traditional flamingo-pink colour and also has the advantage of being very different in biome to the greater flamingo, occurring in lakes within desert and taiga habitat. They represent part of South America with very few other animals. They are also the species kept at my local zoo, which is a definite plus for me.

Thinking about grebes, I must admit I quite like the idea of the great crested grebe. While only kept in three European zoos, so hardly an absolute necessity, they do have many things going for them. They are widespread, occurring in Europe, Asia, Africa and Australia, visually striking and can be kept in large open-topped enclosures with underwater viewing, as in the case of the exhibit pictured in the link below (the grebe is the bird nearest the glass):

Bonus points if the grebes are animated to do their amazing courtship dance as well:
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Discussion #11: Small cats, xenarthrans, Geckos, bugs

What we have:

Small cats:
  1. Cheetah
  2. Clouded leopard
  3. Cougar
  4. Eurasian lynx
  5. Caracal

Xenarthrans (anteaters, sloths, armadillos):
  1. Giant anteater
  2. Nine banded armadillo
Geckos:
None

Bugs:
  1. Goliath Beetle
  2. Sacred Scarab Beetle
  3. Titan Beetle
  4. Giant burrowing Cockroach
  5. Giant Malayan leaf insect
  6. Cloudless Sulphur
  7. European Peacock
  8. Menelaus Blue Morpho
  9. Monarch
  10. Old World Swallowtail

Explain what you think is still needed from the aforementioned groups, and give your reasoning as to why. Take into account that slots in the roster are not unlimited, so try to keep the discussion realistic.
SMALL CATS
I feel the need for more just because they're diverse and to the general public they're cute and/or iconicish. I thus figure two species are realistic so I would firstly choose Pallas Cat because we could use more Asian Highlands/steppe representation, they have decent presence in captivity AND they're cute yet ferocious in looks haha. Very exotic as far as cold-weather creatures go. Although not my personal top Ocelot is also a complete necessity if Frontier chooses a small cat. It checks boxes of Central American representation (very lacking IMO), tropicalness (just by sheer biodiversity these regions could always have more inclusions!), very common in many a zoo and pretty appearance. Honorable mentions for me are the SERVAL (I think they're pretty and have seen them irl) and the FISHING CAT (IDK it seems cool to have a cat that at least sounds more gentle than average and I'm personally fine with Southeast Asian representation).
XENARTHRANS
...Could always use more of this group. Plus they're often unique so even those whom dislike clones wouldn't be mad with their inclusion. For those reasons, I figure two species are pretty realistic. For sloths I go with Linne's Two-toed Sloth just for the reason alone that I have seen it and we NEED a sloth. Its like the last iconic mammal type left! For the other species its a hard choice but I'd go with Northern Tamandua for reasons of Central America and that they're common and so trustworthy seeming that it seems a good choice for starter/basic zoos. It helps that I briefly interacted with one so have a soft spot for them. Honorable mentions are THREE-BANDED ARMADILLO (very common in captivity even as ambassadors that I also have a soft spot for and the only one that actually rolls into a ball), SCREAMING ARMADILLO (cool looking and somewhat present in captivity) and any other sloth (yeah, a sloth is necissary even if its hard to code or whatever thanks!).
GECKOS
We NEED the car insurance animals but I don't know which one (Australian maybe?) but we need at least one... They're too iconic to leave out!
BUGS
I could use more butterflies so I go with CLOUDED SULPHUR that I seen and even moved to the grass many times irl and the beautiful and iconic BLUE MORPHO!

Just for extra discussion, I'm pleased to see how much the Bat-Eared Fox is being brought up. No, it's not a necessary inclusion, and I don't think anyone's said it is, but it seems to be an animal that many of us wouldn't be upset with if they added.
Thank you! One of the most beloved zoo animal. Much desperation.
 
Discussion #12: Lagomorphs, Hyraxes, Pangolins, flamingos and grebes*
Lagomorphs (hares, rabbits and pikas): If I had to pick one, I would pick the domestic lop if we get domestics. I understand that some would find a rabbit rig with animations useful, so I would not mind if we got one. However, I would strongly prefer the devs to focus on other animals with such needs (monkey rigs, tree kangaroos, civets, sloths, habitat birds, small deer, aquatics, etc.). If the other stuff is taken care of, then I would welcome a rabbit. I'm a little concerned that if we get one, everyone will be clamoring for their local or favorite species. One is fine, maybe.

Hyraxes: Rock Hyraxes live in large groups. It seems like a prairie dog for the Middle East with a good social structure. I would not miss them if they were skipped. While there are a few other animals I'd prefer for Middle East rep, they are an acceptable choice.

Pangolins: One is enough

Flamingos and grebes: I don't think I've ever seen a grebe in a zoo. I want ducks, swans, and maybe geese for waterfowl. I don't think I would call the Caribbean/American flamingo essential, but a dark pink and smaller flamingo would be nice. To me, it is a slightly better than average clone for that type of slot in a pack.

Summary: nothing essential here, but the Caribbean flamingo would be a good clone, the rock hyrax might be good for a Middle East animal, and one rabbit might be useful for the rig/animations.
 
Lagomorphs (hares, rabbits and pikas):
None

Hyraxes:
None

Pangolins:
  1. Chinese pangolin

Flamingos and grebes*:
  1. Greater flamingo
All of these taxonomic groups are hard to justify adding to the game.

For lagomorphs, the best choice would be the domestic rabbit since that is the species from this clade people are most familiar with. But even that is a stretch considering prople's hostility to domestic animals unless we get a petting zoo pack (which still isn't welcomed by every one.) If frontier had a chance to add a lagamorph, it was during the arctic pack with the snowshoe hare or the Arctic hare. However, we did not get either, so what a bummer.

I can push for small mammals all day but in the end,a majority of small mammals are always hard to justify since, let's face it, the average zoo visitor does not care about them. Hyraxes are no exception. The only purpose of having a hyrax would be to show people that hyraxes exist and that they are not rodents. If we are to get a hyrax then the Rock Hyrax is basically the most basic species out there to introduce to people.

The Chinese Pangolin already caused some controversy with the unofficial "difficult to keep in captivity" rule set out by fans. While I do not want to insinuate that pangos are all the same, I think having a second species would be redundant.

Flamingoes are especially hard to justify with the community's ire towards reskins. People advocate for the Carribean flamingo for its darker color and continental representation , but I am going to advocate for the Chilean flamingo for its smaller size and we really need more South American animals.
 
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