It's the Triple Elite ship decal.

You get it if your Trading, Combat and Exploration ranks are all at least Elite (grade of Elite doesn't matter, has to be those specific three - my CQC/Trade/Exploration combination didn't work until I got Combat as a fourth much later)

It applies to your ship in exactly the same way as the "Exploration Elite" or "Combat Master" or "Trade Mostly Penniless" rank decals you get at earlier steps go.

Is displaying the decal on your ship necessary to unlock Raxxla? Unlikely, since it wasn't implemented until 2018. Still, it might substitute for separately displaying the Combat, Trade and Exploration Elite decals on your ship in situations where that's required. There will be enough people using it that simply having it on your ship isn't sufficient, of course.
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Triple Elite badge

From the FD Store you can treat yourself to a Triple Elite t-shirt

This is the triple elite badge that you can display on your ship via the inventory interface.

I’ve been triple elite for around three years, during which time I’ve only quested for Raxxla; only got the third Combat elite to see if it aided my quest. It hasnt! I now suffer chronic Fernweh.

The requirement “you have to be elite” came from Holdstock’s original 1984 Elite novella. DB apparently doesnt subscribe to Holdstock’s mythos, and IMHO rank has no influence whatsoever on the quest.
MB said “Anyone can find it, and more than once”; he did not say “anyone with Elite rank can find it”.
 
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Raxxla can only be found in a ship with the triple Elite logo clearly displayed 😉

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Weird lore note: Combat Elite wasn't really a thing until 3100s approximately. Peter Jameson by all accounts is the first Elite CMDR. Raxxla, of course, predates this by more than 8 centuries. Insofar as first novella by Holdstock, Jason Ryder mentioned Raxxla to his son Alex before his death. Raffe Zetter appears to know about it, too. There are at least 7 very direct references to Earth specifically in The Dark Wheel story itself (despite Earth being erased from the galactic maps). We also have in the Coda section a passage reiterating the point of a gateway to other galaxies occupied by Elites.

Notable, also that Zetter is ancient, knowledgeable, and powerful. Now, I suspect he may be Peter Jameson/Jaques (based on Peter's Wreck and Peter's Base in Facece). I am still torn as to whether Peter Jameson/Jaques is legitimately not a threat or whether he is the major enemy in all this. Honestly, I tend to suspect he is the big baddie here having been responsible for death of John Jameson and countless others (based on stories about Jaques, the INRA sites, Imperials curing Jaques condition, and a number of stories in the official novels and Elite Dangerous).

Note: At the end of the story, Alex Ryder achieves Deadly as combat rank. There is also discussion about knowing when to run and how to survive.

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In the old games there were only combat rank. It was a simple kill-count. One kill, one point.

In Elite the players don't have access to galactic maps. We see only the Galcop trade maps (8). In TDW Alex travels to Cirag, that is not on the Galnet maps. Manual jumps like that, was not possible for players (Cirag didn't exist in the game).

According to the old lore a Galcop pilot had to be Elite, to apply for full jump navigation. This was of course not available for players, even after becoming elite.

There are a bunch of details on Galcop bureaucracy in the book, Imprint: http://www.dream-ware.co.uk/elite/books/imprint/
 
There was a rumor that the game's main creator flies the Cobra Mk 3
Its still my fav ship to fly (yes even with the silly 'left hand drive') and its even more usable now in the current Thargoid climate, even with a D rated g3 Drag drive set of thrusters, it can easily outrun any space flower when you accidentally jump into one of their systems :ROFLMAO:

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In the old games there were only combat rank. It was a simple kill-count. One kill, one point.

In Elite the players don't have access to galactic maps. We see only the Galcop trade maps (8). In TDW Alex travels to Cirag, that is not on the Galnet maps. Manual jumps like that, was not possible for players (Cirag didn't exist in the game).

According to the old lore a Galcop pilot had to be Elite, to apply for full jump navigation. This was of course not available for players, even after becoming elite.

There are a bunch of details on Galcop bureaucracy in the book, Imprint: http://www.dream-ware.co.uk/elite/books/imprint/
I will have to read that. Thanks for the background. Also, the more I think about it the weirder it seems Pilot's licenses were only offered at Lave (actually pretty sure must be false as Mic Turner graduated elsewhere). This sounds like, in the case of Lave, someone actively seeking to create a personal space Navy.
 
The logo might be meaningless but there was a special significance to getting triple elite from the beginning- I seem to remember a £10,000 prize to the first to reach that?

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though there have been many triple elites… no one seems to have noticed a difference… but ya as far as special achievements to unlock before getting an invite to the true dark wheel … this is one of those possible hurdles…
 
The logo might be meaningless but there was a special significance to getting triple elite from the beginning- I seem to remember a £10,000 prize to the first to reach that?

Yup:

though there have been many triple elites… no one seems to have noticed a difference… but ya as far as special achievements to unlock before getting an invite to the true dark wheel … this is one of those possible hurdles…
As stated previously, Alex Ryder was not ELITE - he was Deadly. I have sincere doubts about rank being a prerequisite. This is all the more true factoring in membership is likely kept to key lineages. All members who received ships in Frontier and First Encounters were grandchildren at minimum of Peter Jameson. The connection is not the Ryders. It is the first ELITE CMDR, Peter Jameson. The test involved survival. A rank only means you passed a test. For example, traders and bounty hunters just due to nature of their work had to outfly and outgun pirates. Survival in dangerous fields and your age in dangerous fields speaks more to survival instincts.
 

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As stated previously, Alex Ryder was not ELITE - he was Deadly. I have sincere doubts about rank being a prerequisite.
'I've put you through your paces, Alex, you and Elyssia both. The Dark Wheel needs you. Both of you. But believe me, what you've just been through is nothing to what you face now. You've got to become elite, Alex. And that means a lot of training, and a lot of fighting, and maybe a lot of months, even years.
But then the Universe will open up before you in a way you never imagined possible.'

Ya he wasnt elite - but he wasnt accepted into the dark wheel yet either.
 
The Adamastor, the tree above hell, to the war and the bridge

The following image shows the locations of various systems groups, namely Yggdrasil, the path of Persephone (green), systems discovered upto 2296 (white), the underworld below (red), the path of Jacques and the location (and proximity/relative distance from Sol) of the Adamastor.

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The second image is the cover illustration from Michael Brookes (RIP) un-published book and back tattoo.

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Tin-foil hypotheses, is the image from the Brookes represented in game?

The positioning of the Yggdrasil systems do seem to hover over the systems representing the Underworld, similarly as does the tree of knowledge over Brookes version of some type of underworld or hell.

The Adamastor does seem to be in a relatively opposite distance and orientation to that of the path of Jacques, as does the image of Adamastor in Brookes image to that of heavens gate?

The path of Jacques does seem to journey around the Thargoid maelstroms (Brookes war of older gods) but notably this path also travels between two particular systems namely ‘Bridge’ and another which holds the Gen ship ‘Achlys’ the personified spirit of death.

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Does this represent the path of Lucifer in Paradise Lost? from Pandemonium through Hells gate, towards Heavens gates?

In Paradise Lost, Lucifer wanders upon the outermost sphere (the outer rim). Is there something above ‘bridge’ in a relative position to that of the Adamastor!

One of the maelstroms is within such a relative opposite position to the Adamastor!

Collectively do these alignments mirror an abstract representation of those elements shown ultimately in Brookes image, if so where would heavens gate be located?
 
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I have more bad news .. Teorge is not what is labelled Teorge. It is, however, very nearby and semi-obvious:

Brood mother? Greek? Incubating clusters? That meant that Elyssia Fields was from Teorge, the so-called 'clone-world'. Alex struggled to remember what he'd been taught about Teorge ... an inhabited world ... settled by two colony ships that had proceeded to clone a select few of the crew and colonists, killing the others. For centuries Teorge had been a world apart, cut off from the normal flow of trade and commerce, and banned from sending representatives into space.

The system labeled as Teorge has no inhabited worlds unless you somehow consider methane, argon, or helium breathable. The real Teorge is Lave which was settled by Colony Ships Hershel and Oberon. The Universe it seems is not lacking in a sense of irony. The cloneworld being Lave. Well, clearly The Club needed an army to defend what was found 116 years before Lave was colonized in 2412. Lave was one of a handful systems containing an Earth-like which did not require terraforming.
 
In the past there was much discussion on the tattoo representing a journey through ED, search back for Scytale’s posts on this.
At top left is the Triton statue from Portugal’s Peña Palace (& there is a Triton system in-game), lying above Charon the ferryman on the Styx.....there are lots of possible ED systems. But since Triton (Neptune’s moon) is permit locked we cannot start the journey from there, which is suspicious!

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We have always assumed it starts at top left and the joirney goes anticlockwise...what if it reverses that?
 
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'I've put you through your paces, Alex, you and Elyssia both. The Dark Wheel needs you. Both of you. But believe me, what you've just been through is nothing to what you face now. You've got to become elite, Alex. And that means a lot of training, and a lot of fighting, and maybe a lot of months, even years.
But then the Universe will open up before you in a way you never imagined possible.'

Ya he wasnt elite - but he wasnt accepted into the dark wheel yet either.
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I played Elite1 and Frontier, in fact the main purpose of the game was to get the rank of Elite and nothing more.
 
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