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Well did THEY know how to get to Europe? Nope. European explorers put regions they found to world map.

Well, yes, there was a complex system of trade routes and commerce all the way up through Africa and in the middle east and on to Europe. Yes they knew how to get to Europe if they wanted to, you just go up through Africa and through the middle east. It's recorded there were individual and groups that traveled that way pre-European incursions into Africa but they weren't very well recorded and documented because they weren't considered explorers, unlike Marco Polo. Europeans who traveled a long way got into the history books, non-Europeans who traveled a long way were....at best, curiosities.

There were a few recorded as far back as the 1200's, but they were only noted because of their remarkableness, the Nubian king encountered in Constantinople for instance. There was also the pilgrimage route to Santiago as noted in some Latin texts where African's were mentioned, so yes there were well established routes to travel from Africa to Europe well before Europeans sailed along the coast and drew lines on paper.

Claiming that Europeans discovered everything is very Eurocentric in outlook and driven by centuries of bias in recorded history, but not unexpected, the conquerors always wrote the history books, the conqoured fell by the wayside.
 
It doesn't matter what part of the world you visit either...there's always a random Scotsman who's family have been there for generations ;)

Very true my dear Mole, but more than 99% of the time the "Scottishness" of those so self-declared from all the places I've visited, is derived from someone's great-great-great-auntie getting a tin of shortbread from some random nugget in Kirkubright.
 
Very true my dear Mole, but more than 99% of the time the "Scottishness" of those so self-declared from all the places I've visited, is derived from someone's great-great-great-auntie getting a tin of shortbread from some random nugget in Kirkubright.
Sounds a bit like the world rugby union rules for selection into the Scottish national team...outside of international rugby, I've never seen so many 'Scottish' Kiwis, Aussies or rooinek boytjie Afrikaners in my life.

Now we just need to discover that Antoine Dupont's grandad had a crap At Waverly station when he was over on holiday, pressgang the French scrum half into his 'other' national team then we're set for the rugby world cup :whistle:
 
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Whatever the case, you can be assured that Ci~G will visibly ramp up their marketing and advertising footprint from end of August onward :)
And hold an event early September .... around the 6th ...... ;)

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Not that CIG probably want to highlight how little they have delivered with how much they have raised , but the funding tracker should be at $600 million by then. I appreciate they have already crossed that with their external funding, but there is something about seeing it on the tracker page that makes me go wow .
 
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I suspect Ci~G are hoping for almost the opposite. From a marketing perspective, Starfield may possibly draw an influx of new players into the space genre that perhaps wouldn't have been interested otherwise, I reckon Ci~G will be hoping for some bleed-off of new victims sucked in initially by the popularity of Starfield...kind of like the cross pollination between Eve, SC and ED some years ago. Eve and ED had some players dabbling in the early SC and vice-versa 🤷‍♂️

Whatever the case, you can be assured that Ci~G will visibly ramp up their marketing and advertising footprint from end of August onward :)

Exactly this, people who think SF will finally kill SC are mistaken, SF is not a competitor to SC, it compliments it.

ED and EVE are very niche, despite that they both plaid a role to being a significant gate way to SC, SF is heavily marketed to a much more mainstream crowed, its ads have been on my telly.
Almost no one on the PC enthusiast forum i frequent knows what SC is, they all know about SF, even if CIG do nothing at all they will enjoy some bleed over, if they put the effort in, and they will, they will see a lot more.
 
I check in on the funding tracker every few days and i've noticed a trend the last few weeks that funding seems to be slacking off after last month's splurge. I generally check at roughly the same time to make sure i'm not skewing what i'm seeing based on timezones.

Suspect this month is going to be a low one. This is the lowest i've seen it in a long time, back to 2016-2018 figures.

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And SC isn't?

I mean, yes, if you look at everything promised it seems to cater to a huge audience, but if you look at what has been delivered, a buggy waiting and walking simulator, with occasional moments of excitement.....

Yes it is, i'm not going to explain it again :)
 
Yes it is, i'm not going to explain it again :)

Sorry, misread your last sentence.

Starfield is going to be incredibly mainstream. If it was a single title it wouldn't get the same traction, but Bethseda have a long pedigree of making such games, so very well established and known.

So while you are probably right in that there will be some bleed over from SF to SC, i still think that its death by a thousand cuts for SC, as the years pass, and new games release, each offering something CIG has promised, but failed to deliver.
 
Sorry, misread your last sentence.

Starfield is going to be incredibly mainstream. If it was a single title it wouldn't get the same traction, but Bethseda have a long pedigree of making such games, so very well established and known.

So while you are probably right in that there will be some bleed over from SF to SC, i still think that its death by a thousand cuts for SC, as the years pass, and new games release, each offering something CIG has promised, but failed to deliver.

That's not how the economics of it work, some people who discover SC absolutely ##### love it, perhaps for every 10 people who discover SC 1 loves it.

Even bad publicity is still publicity, it all draws attention to the subject, bad publicity can still make people with money to burn curious, and they might actually like it, some do. If anything some of the more extreme publicity can help it, they might expect i to be completely unplayable all the time, and often its very playable, so they have a better experience than they expected.

SC has a real appeal to enough people, despite all of its problems, that's why it keeps going and going for so long now that others have come and faded while its still going strong.
 
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