The Quest To Find Raxxla

Jorki Rasalas

Jorki Rasalas
simulacrae said:
Also described as a golden chain in the Illiad:

"Hang me a golden chain from heaven, and lay hold of it all of you, gods and goddesses together - tug as you will, you will not drag Zeus the supreme counselor from heaven to earth; but were I to pull at it myself I should draw you up with earth and sea into the bargain, then would I bind the chain about some pinnacle of Olympus and leave you all dangling in the mid firmament. So far am I above all others either of gods or men."

The golden chain being the axis mundi...


Nice to see what they did for MB and also curious if these new Brookes Tours take us somewhere interesting....
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A Raxxla narrative? 😁

Now technically mention of Raxxla in any book is not in-game! 🙂

We can discount any Raxxla mentions in AHTW and Premonition/Reclamation since we have been told repeatedly that those authors did not know anything about Raxxla. Legacy of course is different, since the author was MB who was responsible for Raxxla in-game. So I fully accept there may well be hints within Legacy!

The introduction of this MB tours feature is interesting. Is it just a tribute to MB? Clearly FD have seen the playerbase reaction to his demise and I believe he had many friends within FD themselves. He left them on good terms (despite some unfounded assertions that I’ve seen of late) so this development doesn’t surprise me. My question is whether there is a further reason for this feature...are FD now pushing the discovery of Raxxla? Is it relevant to their Thargoid War storyline? @Rochester has remarked that the Thargoid Maelstroms seem to be located around the Underworld region he’s identified. Are the Belligerent Brusselsprouts actually themselves looking for Raxxla? We’ve heard this suggested before (can’t remember by whom).

It’s an interesting question because, as I remarked last week, if Raxxla is related to the Triple Goddess myth which points towards Hecate, then it should already have been found by multiple players conversant with that myth. So why would FD push its discovery now? Or is it a more complex problem, perhaps Hecate is just one step in the journey and Raxxla hasn’t yet been found?
 

Jorki Rasalas

Jorki Rasalas
Well, I’m at Heaven’s Gate, is the key hidden on the roof?

No sign of any archangels, just a few birds and squirrels!
😁

Now itching to go visit the memorial, but stuck in the forest...
 

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Rochester

Rochester
Jorki Rasalas said:
My question is whether there is a further reason for this feature...are FD now pushing the discovery of Raxxla? Is it relevant to their Thargoid War storyline? @Rochester has remarked that the Thargoid Maelstroms seem to be located around the Underworld region he’s identified.
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Yes - when mapped the Mealstroms have a focal point around this sector very close I might add to Artemis and other systems thereof. I’ve been looking into the triad theory with @Jorki Rasalas and that section holds some interesting links to Artemis.

I mapped the maelstroms, simply because they ‘looked like’ spiralling stars, thinking it an unimaginative solution but their focal point is an interesting possibility!

FD admission of a key Milton quote is not simply poetic license nor mindfulness, Milton WAS quoted in the removed DW missions, at least twice (maybe 3). The passage is directly tied to these references which together describe this section of Paradise Lost and Lucifers wanderIng on the ’outer rim’.

Directly below that area the in game is the underworld sector and Pandemonium and Axis Mundi amongst others, which tarry this concept even further.

In the text of Milton ‘heaven gate’ is described as a burning jewel on the brow of this sphere. Heavenly gates beset by jewels also feature on two of Brookes commissioned artworks….

The spheres are beginning to coalesce, I see plans, within plans.

‘Several versions of the Raxxla story mention an alien artefact, the Omphalos Rift, described as a gateway or tunnel through which parallel universes can be accessed. These details however, were later shown to bear a striking resemblance to children's story Princess Astrophel and Spiralling Stars, and soon lost credibility. Undaunted, some Raxxla seekers insisted that the story's author had cunningly concealed facts about the mysterious locale in his book as hints for those with eyes to see‘.

Post in thread 'The Quest To Find Raxxla'
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/the-quest-to-find-raxxla.168253/post-10138410
 
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Han_Zen

Han_Zen
Well the Milton quote at least gives som useful info on possible locations:

Of living sapphire, once his native seat;

"And fast by hanging in a golden chain
This pendent world, in bigness as a star

Of smallest magnitude close by the moon."

Big as a star and close to the moon.

Close to the moon should mean that it's close to the moons orbital plane. The moons orbit is 5.14° of the ecliptic plane. That's quite close, but we have the moons orbit lines in the game, so we don't really have to settle for second best.

Faint but visible.

Smallest magnitude visible to the human eye is 6. Magnitude 6 could mean a bright far away star og a close dim star. Sapphire comes in many colours (mostly blue), so that does not help much.

In orbit.

hanging in a golden chain
This pendent world

This could mean a secondary star, but it could also mean in orbit around Sol. The second option is perhaps most fitting to the text?
 

Jorki Rasalas

Jorki Rasalas
Rochester said:
Yes - when mapped the Mealstroms have a focal point around this sector very close I might add to Artemis and other systems thereof. I’ve been looking into the triad theory with @Jorki Rasalas and that section holds some interesting links to Artemis.

I mapped the maelstroms, simply because they ‘looked like’ spiralling stars, thinking it an unimaginative solution but their focal point is an interesting possibility!

FD admission of a key Milton quote is not simply poetic license nor mindfulness, Milton WAS quoted in the removed DW missions, at least twice (maybe 3). The passage is directly tied to these references which together describe this section of Paradise Lost and Lucifers wanderIng on the ’outer rim’.

Directly below in the underworld sector and Pandemonium and Axis Mundi amongst others, which tarry this concept even further.

In the text of Milton ‘heaven gate’ is described as a burning jewel on the brow of this sphere. Heavenly gates beset by jewels also feature on two of Brookes commissioned artworks….

The spheres are beginning to coalesce, I see plans, within plans.

‘Several versions of the Raxxla story mention an alien artefact, the Omphalos Rift, described as a gateway or tunnel through which parallel universes can be accessed. These details however, were later shown to bear a striking resemblance to children's story Princess Astrophel and Spiralling Stars, and soon lost credibility. Undaunted, some Raxxla seekers insisted that the story's author had cunningly concealed facts about the mysterious locale in his book as hints for those with eyes to see‘.

Post in thread 'The Quest To Find Raxxla'
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/the-quest-to-find-raxxla.168253/post-10138410
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If we assume Legacy is giving us clues about the Quest, then we need to examine the duplication of “children’s story”. In codex it’s entitled “Princess Astrophel and the Spiralling Stars” whereas in Legacy its “a book about a young man’s quest to save a princess from an alien dragon”. So it seems logical that these are one and the same, in which case how is an alien dragon relevant? Is it a Guardian/Thargoid reference? Or mythological reference to Satan as a dragon (in Bible/Revelations) and thence to Paradise Lost? The princess is evidently Astrophel (a Strophel reference to Hecate’s Wheel?) . Is it a reference to Draco the constellation? How are spiralling stars relevant? ...is there a black hole/NS pair in Draco? Is it a planetary disc? (Afterthought: is this a hint that the alien dragon is after Raxxla and it must be protected?)

Julia’s father Darik lived with a nomad gang for several months recuperating from severe injuries. So does this imply Thargoid Scavengers are relevant (e.g. where scavengers are repairing a crashed goid mother ship) or does it mean Scriveners? Or irrelevant?

Julia as a girl “dreamed of being the first pilot to discover Raxxla” & hoped to keep her Eagle as she’d grown accustomed to its idiosyncrasies...”whether it was a suitable ship for travelling all the way to Alliance space was another matter”...so is that a hint that Raxxla is in Alliance space? I thought MB made out the Alliance to be “evil men”? See him say in Elite: Dangerous Fiction Diary #1 7mins30 “When you’re travelling in Alliance space make sure you’re not accidentally smuggling something illegal” with big grin and fixed look for several seconds. He also mentioned the Martian alien artifact (about 10:21) in the context of other sentient species in the galaxy (Guardian?).
https://m.youtube.com/watch v=O6z5OK8J5pg&list=PL7glm5rbPHKw6e6_KkwUusJAzDzO9Yp0e&index=17&t=602s&pp=iAQB

Could the “something illegal” have been a reference to Trinkets of Hidden Fortune which are mysteriously strictly prohibited in almost every jurisdiction and which seem to have originally had some involvement with TDW/ Raxxla

One of the characters is Lina Mater (trader, cobra mk3) fourth generation descendant from a Jameson, who was a mother figure to her, and as a Jameson most likely a Dark Wheel member.
 

Rochester

Rochester
Mmmm
Jorki Rasalas said:
Julia as a girl “dreamed of being the first pilot to discover Raxxla” & hoped to keep her Eagle as she’d grown accustomed to its idiosyncrasies...”whether it was a suitable ship for travelling all the way to Alliance space was another matter”...so is that a hint that Raxxla is in Alliance space? I thought MB made out the Alliance to be “evil men”? See him say in Elite: Dangerous Fiction Diary #1 7mins30 “When you’re travelling in Alliance space make sure you’re not accidentally smuggling something illegal” with big grin and fixed look for several seconds. He also mentioned the Martian alien artifact (about 10:21) in the context of other sentient species in the galaxy (Guardian?).
https://m.youtube.com/watch v=O6z5OK8J5pg&list=PL7glm5rbPHKw6e6_KkwUusJAzDzO9Yp0e&index=17&t=602s&pp=iAQB
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I do suspect that Julia Cavus family were DW, I think this is insinuated by the codex that seems to correlate with elements of her history.

Julia Cavus farther from the book is identified as not overly keen on her pursuing his family business… in that he directly hides it from her.

This aligns with how the codex states, DW parents keep their offspring out of faction to protect them. It sounds too simple, but when viewed as simple data intelligence, this is actually ‘new information’ this was unknown prior to the Codex; so I believe FD are essentially dropping some major clue here.

Julia is also a good candidate because she also wanted to find Raxxla, no other character in ED official lore is directly linked to Raxxla.

Then there is her name - whose origin means daughter of Jove…making her sound very important?

Her wider family names may likewise also have relevance… Rex = King; Seline = Selene.

Certain locations are noted in the book related to her family.

One of the ships was called the Demeter, in the Artemis system: Artemis, Demeter, Selene…?

Regards Brookes post above about Alliance space I agree, that is highly likely what he was hinting at.

FD support in the past alluded that the trinkets were linked to the DW missions… that it was a paused ‘story’ which might get turned on in the future?

In Legacy a character dies but they cannot bury a body, so they enact a tradition of filling a cargo pod with various keepsakes and niknaks. That sounds to me very much like the description of Trinkets of Hidden fortune.

In the book and later in the Forums Brookes does insinuate Julia left the station, looking for her family, but her current location is unknown?

I’m now pretty confident Brookes book Legacy is the book referenced in the Codex. I would go so far as to presume Brookes also wrote both Codex’s and used them to drop specific hints towards his book Legacy and in game locations to assist in finding Raxxla and the DW because I suspect FD retconned an early narrative that would have resolved these.

The codex is a redux.
 
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Alec Turner

Alec Turner
Slightly off topic but does anybody here know if anyone's transcribed the text from the five Brookes Tour beacons anywhere yet? I've currently done 4 of the 5 and would absolutely advocate having the respect to do the whole tour in-game rather than simply reading it on the forum but I know someone who's no longer able to play the game who would love to know what was written. Perhaps pm me if you have it, or at the very least please put it in a big spoiler.
 

Rochester

Rochester
Alec Turner said:
Slightly off topic but does anybody here know if anyone's transcribed the text from the five Brookes Tour beacons anywhere yet? I've currently done 4 of the 5 and would absolutely advocate having the respect to do the whole tour in-game rather than simply reading it on the forum but I know someone who's no longer able to play the game who would love to know what was written. Perhaps pm me if you have it, or at the very least please put it in a big spoiler.
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Yes second that - we on console can’t see this content either (my PC in dry dock foreseeable future). But yes spoilers please / with context ;)

Generally Raxxla aside I think it’s a touching epitaph, sad we all can’t visit them, almost enough to encourage me to buy a new rig… we’ll almost.
 
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Jorki Rasalas

Jorki Rasalas
Rochester said:
Mmmm


I do believe that Julia Cavus family were DW, the Legacy text reads very similarly to that of the DW codex.

As could Lina Mater (Tender Mother)…

As her farther was not overly keen on her pursuing that path… it sounds very similar to the DW codex, about parents keeping their offspring out of the DW.. then there is her name - who’s origin means daughter of Jove…making her sound very important?

Her wider family names also have relevance too me thinks… Rex = King; Seline = Selene.

One of the ships was called the Demeter, in the Artemis system…

Artemis, Demeter, Selene…

Regards Brookes post above about Alliance space I agree that is highly likely wha he was hinting at.

FD support in the past alluded that the trinkets were linked to the DW missions… that it was a paused ‘story’ which might get turned on in the future?

In Legacy a character dies but they cannot bury a body, so they enact a tradition of filling a cargo pod with various keepsakes and niknaks. That sounds to me very much like the description of Trinkets of Hidden fortune.

I’m now pretty confident Brookes book Legacy is the book referenced in the Codex. I would go so far as to presume Brookes also wrote both Codex’s and used them to drop hints towards his book Legacy and in game locations.
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What about Darik’s brother Mervan? Sounds an odd name but tried googling and only got Mervyn
 

TR

TR
Michael Brookes Memorial Beacons:

Freeholm Victory - Tourist Spot 0507

In 3301 Freeholm successfully defeated an invasion from the planet Laphria's forces.

Brookes Memorial Series - Beacon 1/5

"Every jounry starts somewhere. For Michael Brookes, it began with a passion for telling stories and sharing
experiences. A keen enthusiast of games, literature, and associated collections, he drew inspiration from authors
and worldbuilders both contemporary and historic.
Michael's own works reflected this, and he wrote with passion about fantasy, science fiction and mythological beings.

But when Michael looked to the stars, it was clear his destiny was to weave amongst them."

The Brookes Memorial Series continues in Beta Sculptoris


A Brilliant Pairing - Tourist Spot 0746

Brookes Memorial Series - Beacon 2/5

"The year is 3301. Star maps are drawn. PLanets recorded.
A galaxy of endless possibility brought within reach. For
the first time, thousands of new pilots would strap
themselves into a Commander's chair and fire up their
engines. Millions more would follow, drawn into a shifting
spacescape of intrigue, conflict, and discovery.

Michael's joy in helping bring this experience to so many
was inherent in the colour of the text. Emperors,
presidents, heroes and villians acquired depth and
character. Alliances, federations and empires alike grew
inspired by his imagination, adding textures and shades
to an epic saga. Michael's contributions would guide
others through the years, as a foundation to maintain the
epic saga he helped develop."

The Brookes Memorial Series continues in Synuefe CI-J B42-3


Life Beyond Earth - Tourist Spot 0747

Brookes Memorial Series - Beacon 3/5

"While MIchael's creative aspirations were interstellar, his
personal joys were closer to home. Those who knew him
recall a larger-than-life personality, touched by kindness
and empathy. He maintained friendships with colleagues
and Commanders, bonding over the worlds they loved.
Michael enjoyed discussing these mutual interests with
anyone willing to share a drink at the same time, which
often revealed a mischeivous sense of humour. It was
well known that Michael cared deeply about animal
welfare, an example of the compassion with which he is
remembered.

The Brookes Memorial Series continues in Taygeta



A Rare Warmth - Tourist Spot 0748

Brookes Memorial Series - Beacon 4/5

"Many who knew Michael followed an old spacer tradition
to honour his legacy. They filled an empty escape pod
with small tokens, each symbolising a memeory which
made them smile. For Michael, these included military
insignia, sci-fi memorabilia, carved figurines, and
snapshots of rescued animals. Hand-written cards
containing fond recollections of times gone and fans of
Michael's endeavours were plenty. The centrepiece was a
huge axe, hand-crafted for him in recent years, which was
proudly presented ar every opportunity."

The Brookes Memorial Series continues in PMD 2009 48


Surrounded By Wonder - Tourist Spot 0749

Brookes Memorial Series - Beacon 5/5

"Where Michael rests now is a matter of rumour. To say
his spirit quitely rests is at odds with the person many
knew. There was also a new experience to pursue. The
next frontier to discover. Many discussions of Michael's
legacy turn, inevitably, towards one such undiscovered
entity: Raxxla.

A mythlogical something that stirs wonder among every
spacer, this undefined myth remains elusive. But
experienced pilots will tell you: if anyone knows the way
to Raxxla, Michael Brookes does"

And fast by, hanging in a golden chain,
This pendent world, in bigness as a star
Of smallest magnitude, close by the moon.

The Brookes Memorial Series begins in Artemis.
 

Edelgard von Rhein

E
The quote above from the final tourist beacon (visited them all this afternoon) strikes me as being closer to the description of The Dark Wheel base rather than a hint of Raxxla's location.
Discussion in spoilers for those who haven't seen the lines yet:
The line about small magnitude close to a moon could almost be a quote from the Codex entry about The Dark Wheel station.
The line about a pendent world in bigness as a star might imply that the shape of the object/station resembles a star.
Pendent suggests hanging without the first line, as if in orbit, yet the extra emphasis on a hanging world seems odd and hanging by a golden chain? I struggle to think of an in-game analogy.
If the lines are a direct quote from a book, they need to have meaning in-game built around them and the golden chain part suggests to me a hint at a region, with the rest a hint to look for moons having a close-orbiting dark body that probably needs a dss scan to reveal it.
Where might one find a golden chain in-game?
 

Rochester

Rochester
simulacrae said:
Twin vipers (caduceus) … and two eagles… the System of Artemis is connected to the axis. Possibly Freeholm. Also the indication that mementos (trinkets?… possibly of hidden fortune) are left in the cargo pod coffin of Hammer… with a memorial plaque.

I think we need to search the asteroid field for a cargo pod with a plaque….
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That would be so fitting. I like that ;)

Again this ties us back to Elite Legacy. FD are dropping some heavy hints… In that book the character Hammer is obviously a self portrait of Brookes, and just as FD has alluded put to rest in a cargo pod, only filled with trinkets…. ejected into space in Artemis.

Cargo pod in game would pop up in a POI, or it might be too small to detect, but then this would go against what Brrookes supposedly said himself - ‘anyone can find it and more than once’ unless it’s a crashed pod or a pod you can’t scoop, but I like that idea it’s rather fitting.

Or maybe trinkets of hidden fortune now work in Odyssey?
 
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Rochester

Rochester
How apt… this just arrived in the mail when I got back into dock…

The layout of various chapters, I have to say looks very much like another familiar text…

I really suspect this had an influence as source material for the constitution the codex…

‘Much like the ancient myths of Atlantis, El Dorado and the kingdom of Prester John’…

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Edelgard von Rhein

E
Rochester said:
How apt… just arrived when I got back into dock…

The layout of various chapters, I have to say looks very much like another familiar text…

I really suspect this had an influence as source material for the constitution the codex…

‘Much like the ancient myths of Atlantis, El Dorado and the kingdom of Prester John’…

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The pencilwork around the cover of that book, surrounding the central illustration, reminds me of Michael Brookes' tattoo.

A separate note - there might be another clue in the tourist beacons: their naming. Indicative perhaps of stages of a journey we need to make?

I also find it noteworthy that the final tourist beacon points us back to the Artemis system, with its mention that that is where the first beacon is located.

The connection to the axis mundi, if that is how the golden chain is to be interpreted, Delphi again? If so, then I feel like there is a clue there that we have overlooked.

If anyone finds any Trinkets of Hidden Fortune, I would suggest selling them at Freeholm.
 

ORANGEORANGE

ORANGEORANGE
Hi, I don't typically dabble in Raxxla discussion but I made note of this in the Cannon discord.

The lines from Paradise Lost:

"And fast by, hanging in a golden chain,
This pendent world, in bigness as a star
Of smallest magnitude, close by the moon."

refer to the Earth. In the passage (paraphrasing a bit here), Satan is able to see Earth through a gold chain hanging from heaven. Looking through the chain, he sees Earth hanging at the bottom of the chain. The star referenced is the Sun, and the moon is...well...our moon. It could absolutely be interpreted to be some hint to its location elsewhere, but it could also be taken at face value. No doubt you guys have searched Sol thoroughly, but maybe there is something hidden there? Or perhaps I am too literal...
 

CMDR Davanix

CMDR Davanix
"And fast by, hanging in a golden chain,
This pendent world, in bigness as a star
Of smallest magnitude, close by the moon."

fits Lucifer also, smallest magnitude star being the white dwarf, Lucifer is only 0.0500 earth masses (pendent size) also, Planets been wrapped by coils since 2350 and exploited for synthesis of "custom elements" for Military grade fuel which is what was or still is need for older type jump drives and capital ships, What if these coils are harnessing something different from a seedier cabal like Sirius is and has been known as I mean nothing much difference between Lucifer and lets say most other high metal planets ;)

also Lucifer reference to the post above "Satan is able to see Earth through a gold chain hanging from heaven" I may target earth and travel in its direction from Lucifer and see if anything pops up and if the golden chain references a line that must be travelled

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