Winter 2023 DLC Speculation

I really don’t think tree Roos coming but I want it so badly, it’s an icon and I have the urge to build for it in my zoo so bad.
You mean like... As part of a highlands/mountain pack or just in general? I doubt it'll actually be in a highland/mountains pack. LOL

But I'm 50-50 on it actually coming in some other pack. I could see it being a likely inclusion in some sort of game-ending "wild card" pack and an almost definite lock for any sort of treetops, forests, rainforest or whatever pack if we get another one of those.
 
You mean like... As part of a highlands/mountain pack or just in general? I doubt it'll actually be in a highland/mountains pack. LOL

But I'm 50-50 on it actually coming in some other pack. I could see it being a likely inclusion in some sort of game-ending "wild card" pack and an almost definite lock for any sort of treetops, forests, rainforest or whatever pack if we get another one of those.
In just a highlands pack.
 
Can’t believe I’m even asking this lol Which one for a mountains pack?
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And the Cassowary remains the Best bird in the game to me, can't believe You have only used it once 😵‍💫

I’m honestly still confused how we got the cassowary in the AU pack before the emu. One’s far more iconic to Australia, especially the deserts, and one most people have probably never heard of. I would really think they would put the emu in the first pack and then the more niche cassowary. Glad we got both tho, the australian bird selection is awesome now.

I use the cassowary in all my zoos. And here in Belgium they are common in zoos just like the emu.
 
I don’t get why people think that Africa being over represented is a bad thing. Like yeah, it has the most species of the game, but it also has the most unique animals in the game (aside from a couple ungulates) and it still has unique animals left to add.

I would take another pack of Africa content honestly if it means we get a baboon, Secretary bird, honey Badger, shoebill, crowned crane, hornbill, Masai giraffe, Gerenuk, waterbuck, etc.
My problem isnt that africas representation is unrealistic its that while everywhere else struggles to piece together a coherent section in a zoo africa has so many animals in the game currently that you have the luxury of choice when it comes to which animals to pick springbok and thomsons gazelles come to mind. I have no problem with africa getting more animals but it shouldnt come at the cost of the others which barely have the basics.
When people say Africa is "overrepresented" I've always assumed it was with the context that other iconic/highly-requested species are missing from the game in other regions (e.g., South America).
yes this all this everyone just misses the context and nuance africa is fine and there are definitely animals that could still be added but other areas are so lacking its a problem.
Even with the context, south america should never get the same representation as africa.
Is the context in the room with us
Idk why the "its usually not in open habitats" argument is a thing (for stuff like crowned pigeons and other ground based birds that is).
We got PLENTY animals that are usually kept in aviaries, topped of enclosure, or completely indoor settings and yet all of them are standard habitat animals. If realism is that factor here one can always build an aviary or cage for them
I dont get it either because there are plenty of non flying animals that arent kept in open air habitats yet no one cares about those. For me the biggest deciding factor is how does it move all birds can walk if needed but only birds that primarily walk or swim should be added doesnt matter if they are kept in open air habitats or not so things like vultures and hornbills really shouldnt be ingame even though they are fine in uncaged exhibits they would just look weird walking everywhere.
I want a desert pack as a do over from arid
This is basically like saying we need a desert pack when we have the arid animal pack, but we need it cause it could include different kinds of animals and the arid pack wasn’t named a desert pack.

The twilight pack was marketed as a Halloween and night pack. It’s the closest thing we’re gonna get to a nocturnal pack and most of the animals I’ve seen requested for a nocturnal pack being brutally honest, are not gonna sell a pack. There’s no icon animals left for it, and the other animals are not popular within the community, it can’t even take a couple off the meta wishlist. I wouldn’t even buy a pack like this.
we do need a desert pack though because arid failed so horribly at representing deserts. They picked the one desert area that already had alot of animals and said lets make a pack dedicated to that instead of the deserts in central asia, australia or the americas all of which are missing plenty of animals all arid did was ruin everything.
And btw I believe Arctic and Australia are the worst packs to throw my two cents in
they are honestly my most used packs entirely because of the scenery the only pack I use more is conservation

arctic has one of the worst animal rosters in my opinion the artic wolf is basically just a white timber wolf polar bear is good dall sheep is meh and the reindeer is aslo meh but i use the wood so much it makes such a good building trim its my second most used wood type next to the south asia set.

australias roster was disappointing mainly because the cassowary and dingo are just weird choices in terms of whats iconic to australia but I use that light wood everywhere and the metal pieces as well make great shed pieces
As far as australian birds go:

Emu > Kiwi > Little Penguin > Cassowary
But none of these are bad, just personal taste.
kiwi is not Australian just fyi
 
Gelada, every day of the week. They have a big troop of them in my local zoo and they are overwhelmingly the most common baboon-like primate in British zoos. Add their unique ecology and representing a part of Africa with no current species and they would be an excellent addition. By contrast, the snub-nosed would be useless for me, and I find the Hamadryas baboon revolting to look at.
 
we do need a desert pack though because arid failed so horribly at representing deserts. They picked the one desert area that already had alot of animals and said lets make a pack dedicated to that instead of the deserts in central asia, australia or the americas all of which are missing plenty of animals all arid did was ruin everything.
But just because the community declares that a pack needs a do over doesn’t mean they will. If they make a sequel, it would probably be marketed the exact same way and wouldn’t do well financially.
 
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Gelada. 100%. There is no competition. They are the wildest looking primate, and so unique. Not to mention common in UK zoos, which happens to be where I primarily build. They also fit the theme of ‘Mountains’ the best out of the two ‘baboon like’ species.
I’d be happy if we got the Hamadryas in a later pack, but would be super gutted if we got it over the Gelada unfortunately.
And as for the Snub Nosed Monkey… I’m hoping I never see it in game.
 
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