As far as I'm aware we are just assuming, no one has provided any evidence that frontier takes their break a week before Christmas.
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Winter 2023 DLC Speculation
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They do? As a local I have never seen the markhor in the snow leopard habitat in the past decade.
The tierpark berlin has a really great one. They display snowleopard, takins, markhor, kiang, red panda, francois langur (for some reason), bearded vultures and a couple more that im probably forgetting
Yea from what I have heard at least. My memory is also fuzzy but when I visited I remember seeing no snow leopards on my first walk round but I did see markhor in a similar looking enclosure and then I saw them elsewhere later when I saw snow leopards. So maybe I saw the rotation? I'll attach a photo.
The Himalaya at Tierpark Berlin is great. Lots of species but they are also hard to compete with when it comes to that.
I was in Wuppertal earlier this year and their Himalaya is still WIP, their takin enclosure stood finished and that was very nice! I believe they had between 5-10 species planned for it.
But yes, many areas are mostly just snow leopards and red pandas.
Yes! I actually visited it before it was a Himalayan area!
Back then it was mostly just for a HUGE caprine collection, off the top of my head they had multiple subspecies of takin, markhor, chamois, ibex, argali, Chinese goral, mouflon, Rocky Mountain goat, bharal... and I'm probably missing a few.
Some photos (February 2018):
Oh and for good measure they had the big guys as well lol:
I think the only zoo in Europe which surpassed this was Tallinn, which I've heard has an insane caprine collection.
That picture looks like the upper markhor habitat, which is right next to the snow leopards and looks near identical. There could very well be a rotation, it's just something i have never encountered.
That's like saying the "fall" or "summer" pack should release in August or September because that's when the Outback DLC dropped. You can't really count the dates for 2/3 of the initial DLC packs, from my perspective (SA was an exception as that tied to the Easter holiday).
We have three years of them releasing the December DLC around mid-month beyond that first one.
For me, it's not a huge stretch to think they might tease one animal in the morning and another in the afternoon for a day or two. It wouldn't need to be every day, obviously. Just ~2 days. Might arguably be better for the algorithm and hype too. Especially if they were to do videos instead of screenshots.
"Oh look! Markhor! Wonder what else we might see on the other side of this peak. What was it that just scurried away over there? Let's go see what it is... Keep an eye out this afternoon!"
It's been mentioned elsewhere that the Frontier offices are typically closed during the week leading up to the holiday as well. Maybe that's changed and it's different this year... But that's how it's been in the past. Or so I've read.
The only Himalayan area I've ever seen in a zoo featured snow leopard, red panda, white-cheeked gibbon for whatever reason, and a handful of not-so-accurate birds and turtles at Chattanooga Zoo. I'd hesitate to even call it a Himalayan section if not for the explicit theming around the red pandas. Unfortunately, exotic ungulates that aren't giraffes, zebras, or rhinos are exceedingly rare across majors zoos in the southeastern US, so for cold-favoring mountainous ones that goes double.
You're a monster. All this innocent laptops
I agree. However, I don't have a nearby plug nor could I afford a gaming laptop with high enough graphics, so I can't. Plus, I can just plop a heater under my desk if I'm desperate for warmth (which is super rare for me, as I'm so hot-natured that I've been known to sweat in winter)
Nice. My desktop actually came from the medical center. We buy auctions of desktops and laptops from schools and hospitals, reset them, and resell. The last batch of desktops were just what I was looking for, had all the necessary specs. I just added my graphics card (AMD Radeon RX 580) and my gaming experience has become cinematicDesktop
I could never get it to work for some reason, but that's awesome, too
It's different. Building in general is easier because the buildings are pre-built. However, you can edit their color and some design aspects so that it's not the same building plopped over and over again. However, I think the overall interactions between different species and their behavior is better than PZ, because animals can and will acknowledge each other, including territory fights and even cohabitation
My laptop couldn't handle PK well, either. It requires higher graphics than PZ
JWE 2 is way improved. If I went back to JWE 1, I'd get bored. But JWE 2 is more fun, and has some replayability that PZ lacks, in my honest opinion. However, PZ is superior in detailed builds and the like
What else do you have in mind?
This kinda look like those little flags from Mexico (I think it's called papel picado)
I agree. And to think some people want scalable pieces. That'd take the building to a whole new level that overwhelms me just thinking about it
Found a few pics.
Part of the new Takin Enclosure:
I believe that is all the species that will be part of the area. Most of them (if not all) are already in the zoo.
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This is a video about the snow leopard and markhor rotation exhibit at the Highland Wildlife Park - apparently the rotation happens about once a month. Certainly one of the more interesting enclosure types that I've seen.
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVdtVt9Skh4
As for Himalayan sections, the only moderately-sized ones in the UK I'm aware of that haven't already been mentioned are Little Himalaya at Wingham Wildlife Park and Himalayan Pass at Yorkshire Wildlife Park - both are home entirely to carnivores. Little Himalaya has a mixed enclosure of Asian small-clawed otters and binturongs, plus standalone enclosures for Eurasian lynx, Asiatic black bears and an Amur leopard (replacing the more accurate clouded leopards that have since moved into a nocturnal house). Himalayan Pass consists of just two enclosures, one for red pandas and the other a mix of binturongs and smooth-coated otters.
It's pretty notable how rare caprids are in the UK - the only place I know that is really planning on getting any caprids at all is a place with no intended geographical placement (all the animals just live at liberty in a single 170-acre reserve).
As for Himalayan sections, the only moderately-sized ones in the UK I'm aware of that haven't already been mentioned are Little Himalaya at Wingham Wildlife Park and Himalayan Pass at Yorkshire Wildlife Park - both are home entirely to carnivores. Little Himalaya has a mixed enclosure of Asian small-clawed otters and binturongs, plus standalone enclosures for Eurasian lynx, Asiatic black bears and an Amur leopard (replacing the more accurate clouded leopards that have since moved into a nocturnal house). Himalayan Pass consists of just two enclosures, one for red pandas and the other a mix of binturongs and smooth-coated otters.
It's pretty notable how rare caprids are in the UK - the only place I know that is really planning on getting any caprids at all is a place with no intended geographical placement (all the animals just live at liberty in a single 170-acre reserve).
The only thing I can think of that scaling would be useful would be the animal signs, other than that I would find no use and wouldn’t like scaling in PZ.
It’s just too much.
They also have Kalij pheasant, which might not seem too notable but it is quite a rare species here. I do agree with you though, they certainly have the space for some good caprine exhibits and they'd do very well there I think.
If they did add scaling you wouldn't have to use it? I'd definitely use it for basically all the props I think.
Different text sizes would be very useful for scaling, every size is simply too big for general purposes.
Idk I just feel like it’ll screw up the entire building system when it’s perfect the way it is.