The Sloth Bear is also very unique looking. Nevertheless it brings us closer to all bears. You might Not want that but me and some Others would Like to See all of them coming the Game. The Sloth Bear does not really have negative aspects in my opinion and as we already wait since nearly 3 years for a Bear species I really see no reason that it cannot be Part of the so called "Clone" area.
Winter 2023 DLC Speculation
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I didn't know the Sun Bears were uncommon in captivity. I visited 3 zoos this year, two of them had the Sun Bears + Binturong exhibits. Never seen a Sloth Bear in a zoo but I would love to.
Literally carnivoran number 19th on species level, which can be found in India rofl. One could pick random region from India and still find bunch of them to build for.
Maybe with 20th people will finally be satisfied.
I actually thought the same yesterday but I compared both the EAZA numbers from zootierliste and the latest AZA from zoochat (2021) to find both were only around 15 holdings despite the sun bears popularity as a Southeast asian animal.
Besides you being completly right on me not caring to add animals just to have all animals of a group, especally when other more common, more important groups are completly absent from the game (waterfowl) or extremly slim in their representation (asian ungulates, monkeys, tortoises, lizards) the sloth bear also doesnt have any unique posetives and thats my issue with it.
And thats also why i cant understand why people prefer them over the other bears as it really only has its range in india that sets it apart.
To me its the definition of a lackluster inclusion and unlike the other packs this year which also have been overflowing with those it isnt even particulary usefull.
Its niche is taken by a more interesting animal and unlike something like ungulates or primates you dont need 2 of them in the same zoo, so why would anyone actually ise them outside of recency bias or finding them visually appealing but guess what would also be those two things and actually having an open niche?
An indian antelope, a mongoose, any bird, even an exhibit cobra.
Cuteness/visual appeal is not special, allmost any animal has that and even then it doesnt even look that different.
Im fine with the choices made as long as the other half of the pack doesnt contain a single ungulate or carnivoran I am tired of getting pack almost entirely full of them let anything else have its time please because I think thats ultimately why people are mad because we are so burnout of ungulates and carnivorans they are good and useful just not so many all at once.
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Maybe 21... a jackal and asiatic lion does sound appealing.
Honey Badger will probably come sooner or later
I want the simen jackel if any also I have no idea how they would do the asiatic lion since it is technically the same subspecies as the west african lion but would love to see it as it would bring attention to the fact that asia does indeed have lions.
Im expecting either it or fishing cat for this pack.
Edit: well, it has wolverine, but nothing is stopping them from adding both!
If we should get the Blackbuck I really do Not mind a second antelope this Pack (perhaps I am Not the measurement regarding antelopes).
I know you mean IT ironically but I would Not mind If we should get one of them. The fishing Cat I have Seen Last year and the Honey Badger would fullfill the Trio of Madness.
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Yeah, it's expected to be an animal pack
yes based on the fact that since introduction there have been 2 animal packs a year and we havent seen any scenery yet as well as the fact that we have never had all the animals in an animal pack teased in the livestream
Since its assumeably an animal pack, yeah
Thats absolutly a big reason but imo just as much that its really not hard to make good yet reasonable packs.
It doesnt take a scientist that takin + wolverine + 2. Goat + baboon + bird + 2 wild cards is a winning formula for a mountain pack and it takes just eyes to see that the whole community wants 2 things the most, birds and SA animals.
The Frustration for me is not that im not getting what i wanted, cause i actually do, i wanted 3/4 animals so far, my frustration is that it feels like frontier is blind and deaf to the communitys biggest wants by activly avoiding adding birds and SA animals at any point for what?
More ungulates and carnivorans?
From africa and asia?
The only pack this year that didnt feel tone deaf to the communitys wants and needs was the oceania pack, which actual content i couldnt care less about, what matters was that for once it felt like they listend and did something that wasnt plain stupid.
I dont mean to insult frontier with that, but all the backlash that tropical and arid got was 300% to be expected as it felt like frontier saw what the community wanted, a tropical animal pack with SA focus and a worldwide desert pack, blacked out everything and gave us the opposite if what we wanted with tropical and an africa only desert pack.
Thats stupid, i got no other word for it, it fealt like and still does like going against the very simple and common opinions about how these packs should be like and making them worse for no reason.
No one here can tell me that getting the correct sloth, swapping the water monitor for a tamandua and swapping black rhino, one antelope and somali wild ass to collared peccary, yellow footed rock wallaby and a perentie would have been that much more work and wouldnt have made people alot less dissapointed in these packs.
