The Quest To Find Raxxla

[selbie]

Just had a check in my notes but looks like I deleted the one on the SSO disaster.
I did find "Halsey has a sister Azalea" (hint to something about Azaleach?? In Japan/China Azaleas symbolise homesickness, is that the opposite of Fernweh??)

Hmm, that reminds me of the Aster flower Spencer described in his Astrophel poem, also used in Japanese and especially Chinese culture for centuries.
The -ach could easily be a suffix like in Irish meaning "connected or involved with / belonging to"
Halsey is said to possibly derive from Halsway, Somerset - which is Old English for Hals (neck) + Weg (way / road)
Edit: OH! and of course Jasmina relates to the Jasmine flower..... INTERESTING

 

[Jorki Rasalas]

Hmm, that reminds me of the Aster flower Spencer described in his Astrophel poem, also used in Japanese and especially Chinese culture for centuries.
The -ach could easily be a suffix like in Irish meaning "connected or involved with / belonging to"
Halsey is said to possibly derive from Halsway, Somerset - which is Old English for Hals (neck) + Weg (way / road)
Edit: OH! and of course Jasmina relates to the Jasmine flower..... INTERESTING

So Jasmine stuck her neck out and struck out!

 

[Louis Calvert]

... Azalea and Jasmine are both flowers.

They're sisters. Their parents named their kids after flowers. I'm sorry I didn't include that in my post about the actual weird stuff relating to Halsey that took several hours to assemble for 'yall, I thought everyone already knew that she was named after a flower. (affectionate sarcasm, you bunch of tin-foil wearing conspiracy nuts ).

 

[Jorki Rasalas]

Thanks for that, it’s evident to have some relevance to the story, their emphasis I feel was to draw attention to this pre-emptive alteration to the journey, make us think it’s not just an assignation plot but possibly something else going in. I don’t think the ‘why’ is necessary to understand, only the where.

The who, why, what I feel ought to be evident in the location it’s alluding to.

If nothing is there then it’s narrative, and just a breadcrumb teaser, in my opinion the lowest form of storytelling. Give us data.

I feel there if there isn’t something ‘physical’ in this locality, then it’s esoteric, and that systems, bodies and factions in that area are telling a deeper story - again it’s back to ‘environmental storytelling’. This could point to a clue to go to ‘someplace’ or that something is / has happened/ing ‘off camera, but who knows?

Have edited my posts.

The golden chain theory, utilising the Orion focused beam of stars might be a possibility, but other than allegorical interpretation I don’t suspect there is any directional spacial evidence to point us there… maybe wrong. At most I think it’s just a nice touch to name these ‘errors’ and make use of the anomaly. Again I might be wrong.

The golden chain of Milton’s Paradise Lost isn’t actually significantly long.

Paradise was held just below the brow (inclined hill wall) of the Empyrean, it was not a great distance away from it, Milton mixed his metaphors to confuse the reader and convey the vast distances he was attempting to convey but at the same time comfort the reader that ‘Paradise’ was still very close to gods love and not something distant and discarded.

If said ‘chain’ exists in game it ought no be taking us thousands of light years away from the suspected Empyrean nor realm of Chaos nor the Underworld, it really ought to be just under the Empyrean or between it and Chaos, but who knows?

I’m no expert, just an opinion. O7

Hmm. I don't spatially understand your diagrams as they haven't had system labels, and I have no way of exploring them visually in 3D (having too much fun in Starfield to bother booting up ED), but how does your Underground region relate to this "chain" of stars? Could be the Brookes Memorial Tour is intended to draw our attention to the chain rather than a specific system thereabouts (i.e. the system named "Legacy" near to the Orion Tourist Centre destination is just obfuscation?). Specifically how does the "Sol end" of the chain relate to your Underworld, as that might be the logical place to look for Raxxla if this theory is correct, especially since your interpretation of the codex reference to Omphalos Rift, and it's relation to Raxxla, puts it at the junction of the chain to the sphere. The chain is based on real astronomical data so it might be that seeing the chain in an alpha version of ED prompted the idea to MB to implement the Milton+mythology by appropriate system naming and locations...

 

[CMDRCorrMorningstarFelian]

Any ideas on the symbolism here: My take Nature (tree) vs Technology (Guardian column?). This is from a tourist station. The same column appears between the male and female CMDR statue. This was in border zone between Federal and Independent systems. The building between the circles appears to be a church (on square pad). The green hexagon I am unsure of the nature of the building (may represent humanity). The building in the upper right appears to be a home. I don't know if this could be overlayed on GalMap to tell us where to search. The home structure I think would be in the direction of Coalsack if I am reading this corectly based on relative position of human bubble vs Guardian.

 

[yelboc]

Any ideas on the symbolism here: My take Nature (tree) vs Technology (Guardian column?). This is from a tourist station. The same column appears between the male and female CMDR statue. This was in border zone between Federal and Independent systems. The building between the circles appears to be a church (on square pad). The green hexagon I am unsure of the nature of the building (may represent humanity). The building in the upper right appears to be a home. I don't know if this could be overlayed on GalMap to tell us where to search. The home structure I think would be in the direction of Coalsack if I am reading this corectly based on relative position of human bubble vs Guardian.

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Fermilab ?

The Birth of Fermilab | Fermilab 50th Anniversary

50.fnal.gov

 

[CMDRCorrMorningstarFelian]

Fermilab ?

The Birth of Fermilab | Fermilab 50th Anniversary

50.fnal.gov

Interesting .

Not sure what to do with that be it does look similar.

 

[Rochester]

Hmm. I don't spatially understand your diagrams as they haven't had system labels, and I have no way of exploring them visually in 3D (having too much fun in Starfield to bother booting up ED), but how does your Underground region relate to this "chain" of stars? Could be the Brookes Memorial Tour is intended to draw our attention to the chain rather than a specific system thereabouts (i.e. the system named "Legacy" near to the Orion Tourist Centre destination is just obfuscation?). Specifically how does the "Sol end" of the chain relate to your Underworld, as that might be the logical place to look for Raxxla if this theory is correct, especially since your interpretation of the codex reference to Omphalos Rift, and it's relation to Raxxla, puts it at the junction of the chain to the sphere. The chain is based on real astronomical data so it might be that seeing the chain in an alpha version of ED prompted the idea to MB to implement the Milton+mythology by appropriate system naming and locations...

Agreed but I just think it’s a stretch, but then we don’t really know if it’s intentional or not, it could be, there are a number of possible directional clues that could take us away from the bubble, but none of them in my opinion are definitive, and as a whole it feels centralised to the bubble, either it’s pointing downwards below the lost realms zone, or it’s above it towards the Empyrean… princess Astrophel I feel is key towards understanding the entirety.

As to if it’s a red herring cannot be definitively confirmed so one has to presume everything in the Codex is true. So Princess Astrophel must be a real character or place in game or lore, the spiralling stars I feel will be a directional clue and possibly point us somewhere.

Could be wrong, but I at present I can’t make that jump to Orion or even Delphi without more information, I feel it’s too wide a gap.

 

[selbie]

Any ideas on the symbolism here: My take Nature (tree) vs Technology (Guardian column?). This is from a tourist station. The same column appears between the male and female CMDR statue. This was in border zone between Federal and Independent systems. The building between the circles appears to be a church (on square pad). The green hexagon I am unsure of the nature of the building (may represent humanity). The building in the upper right appears to be a home. I don't know if this could be overlayed on GalMap to tell us where to search. The home structure I think would be in the direction of Coalsack if I am reading this corectly based on relative position of human bubble vs Guardian.

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Any significance to those four banners? The Four Superpowers perhaps? or are there more hidden behind

 

[CMDRCorrMorningstarFelian]

As to if it’s a red herring cannot be definitively confirmed so one has to presume everything in the Codex is true. So Princess Astrophel must be a real character or place in game or lore, the spiralling stars I feel will be a directional clue and possibly point us somewhere.

If I were you, I would be looking very carefully at Aisling Duval and her parents (you may have to source details from the FFE journals). I think that is our Astrophel. She came from an unlikely background. Going to expand on that further, and The Architect from "..And Here the Wheel" is likely a Duval and his grandson may well be Admiral Aiden Tanner. We know there are CMDRs amongst the Duvals (believe the one behind Nova Imperium flew ships). Wasn't it a daughter that is read stories in one of the other novels? The Marlinists helped to found Tau Ceti (see Frontier gazetteer and FFE journals for confirmed portions of the Mayflower 97 route). Beta Hydri is founded by very wealthy Scottish families that traveled with Marlin Duval. The discontent with the powers that be goes back a long time. Phekda, Capella, Achenar, and Alioth were colonized specifically because they were resource rich and could be leveraged against the Federation and the corporations it let become so powerful. Even the Alliance is founded by one families affected by the Birthright Wars - the Argents. The plan to bring down the corporate overlords was set in motion before Raxxla. You are dealing with people who were uprooted by corporations that became too powerful. They were willing to see that there was karma for this even if took a long while.

Besides, Aisling Duval is a little too clean looking to not be wrapped up deeply into that plot. Her father certainly have had motivation given what happened.

 

[CMDRCorrMorningstarFelian]

Any significance to those four banners? The Four Superpowers perhaps? or are there more hidden behind

Still trying to decipher meanings but that is good suggestion.

 

[CMDRCorrMorningstarFelian]

So the Rift is not definite, only some versions of the Raxxla story mention it, and if you assume it is true what then is Raxxla and how does it relate to the OR? So the OR may either be total obfuscation or should be interpreted as part of the children's story "clue" which we don't understand...Astrophil & Stella AFAIK doesn't mention an Omphalos, nor does Elite Legacy (either as part of the main story or as part of the children's story that was Julia's sole possession growing up).

The way you get the rift back is via Earth. Without Earth in the same Universe, Raxxla cannot exist. The colonization of Achenar happened solely because Marlin Duval was not happy with the Federation. I am not wholly convinced that Princess Astrophel and the Spiralling stars rumors actually exclude the possibility of the Omphalos Rift being connected. The stories are informed by those who told them. Those who stayed at the Federation had different perspectives than Imperials, the Marlinists had different perspectives from main line Imperials, and the Independents still another. Perspective is everything.

The are three commonalities: an Earth origin in all cases, a rift between Universes, and the ubiquitous Astrogation Console. It doesn't matter how you approach it, those things are in everything. The Gold-skins are the key (as in Bedaho). This is why Saud Kruger and the Antares are so important.

 

[CMDRCorrMorningstarFelian]

This is Pilot's Federation logo for a reason. The story doesn't work without Earth. The invitation has always come from Olympic Village, Mars.

 

[CMDRCorrMorningstarFelian]

I vaguely remember something in the lore about an entire fleet disappearing. That could be Raxxla and not much else - even a misjump would have only taken out one ship and its nearest neighbours.

Alioth. Though, that appears to connected to "Emperor's Own" from Laedla. Apparently, they were also deployed at Alioth given its' status of "stellar El Dorado". Interesting, so the clone program was actually active pre-2924. Whatcha want to bet that is why Pilot's licenses were only offered at Lave? Pilot's Federation is founded 2805. The rumors regarding unification of both superpowers happen approximately 3008 but could have happened earlier - mostly they are linked to President Tyrell Biggs. However, it may have happened as far back as Trasken Duval II which lines up Pilot's Federation founding.

 

[CMDRCorrMorningstarFelian]

In light of the above re: disappearance in Alioth, I am preliminarily going to say whomever founded The Pilot's Federation is the sole tyrant. That honor then may go to Jaques who may well be over a millennia or more old (and stands better odds than not of being the Guardian Civil AI). The catch here, he may also be the Founder and Peter Jameson. He may have other aliases such as Augustus Brenquith (which would go a long way to explaining how Astrogator got their Astrogation Console in every ship manufacturer known).

 

[CMDRCorrMorningstarFelian]

Galnet explicitly linked Gan's visions with Halsey, it might be a red herring, but as we've said before, if there are red herrings then we're totally screwed, so l

Might be a red herring and might not. The disappearance at the Stargate from Tour of the Universe on Christmas Eve 2286 is linked to blackholes or least gravitational singularities. What "glows" due to bending of light? Blackholes. There are 3 in this system.

stargate n. a portal or device that transports something to another point in the universe (usually another such location or device) in a manner that bypasses the intervening space; cf. gate n., jump gate n.

1980 M. Edwards & R. Holdstock Tour of Universe 69 Stargates are distortions in space; they are also distortions in time, a fact that is often overlooked.

Tour of Universe 69 was the other name for Tour of the Universe by Robert Holdstock and Malcolm Edwards.

Shibboleths are everywhere.

Historical Dictionary of Science Fiction: stargate

Historical Dictionary of Science Fiction

sfdictionary.com

 

[CMDRCorrMorningstarFelian]

There's the logical reasoning that it can't be too far from Sol or the Old Worlds due to technology restrictions....

Just a thought

Hydrogen is my savior and my personal bane.

Congratulations, you found the final veil - damn near 66 years of unaccounted for time. It also makes the entire galaxy a candidate. It is a veil I have worked hard to pierce but cannot. The next major event is settling of Arcturus and planet Discovery in 3304.

Mind the gap.

It appears it remains obscured on the frontier...

 

[CMDR Davanix]

Lets everyone forget the landscape signal for a moment and turn your attention to supercruise noise! now i cant record due to being in the room with my sleeping 1 year old however use camera mode and zoom as far away from your ship as possible, now crank up that volume and i mean crank up a good bit! and point towards Andromeda, yes there is a noticeable difference in noise! Im currently in Asuhail incase the location matters il report back when im further away from here if the location changes

Edit: There appears to be multiple different noises ranging from the direction of the Maelstroms, the galaxy center, landscape among a few more im not sure where they point, Now the kind of chirping noise is constant however there is audible differences that are in different locations and always are in those directions and not randomized.

 

[Han_Zen]

Hmm, that reminds me of the Aster flower Spencer described in his Astrophel poem, also used in Japanese and especially Chinese culture for centuries.
The -ach could easily be a suffix like in Irish meaning "connected or involved with / belonging to"
Halsey is said to possibly derive from Halsway, Somerset - which is Old English for Hals (neck) + Weg (way / road)
Edit: OH! and of course Jasmina relates to the Jasmine flower..... INTERESTING

There is another flower girl. Felicity Winters https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felicia_amelloides

and of course the flower queen pin Florence, Lavigny Duval.

I mentioned this in august:https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/the-quest-to-find-raxxla.168253/page-1573#post-10209908

This quartet will now have even more power, as Winters becomes the Federal president. Jasmina is currently ambassador to the Alliance and has been an adviser to Mahoon.
Florence is the mother of the Emperor and the architect behind the takeover of power from the Duval family.

 

[Louis Calvert]

Lets everyone forget the landscape signal for a moment and turn your attention to supercruise noise! now i cant record due to being in the room with my sleeping 1 year old however use camera mode and zoom as far away from your ship as possible, now crank up that volume and i mean crank up a good bit! and point towards Andromeda, yes there is a noticeable difference in noise! Im currently in Asuhail incase the location matters il report back when im further away from here if the location changes

Edit: There appears to be multiple different noises ranging from the direction of the Maelstroms, the galaxy center, landscape among a few more im not sure where they point, Now the kind of chirping noise is constant however there is audible differences that are in different locations and always are in those directions and not randomized.

Easy for me to test this one.

Spoiler: Spectrograms of Supercruise

I'm seeing no differences between any heading (currently in the Prieluia XD-Q C6-13 system). I've also recorded the sound of supercruise before a while back when I was testing to see if you could hear the Landscape Signal in it, these all match the ones I was doing back then too.

The sound does change a bit, it's linked to your speed and whether you're accelerating or decelerating, but the changes are relatively minor.

For anyone who's interested here's the Sound of Supercruise, recorded in freecam at max range, in Deep Space (not in a planetary system).

@CMDR Davanix if you're hearing anything other that a sort of distorted mechanical churning noise and deep bassy thumbing, then you're hearing something new. I'll get my friend in the bubble to record in Asuhail too and update later.