Spring 2024 DLC Speculation

I don’t read in the financial report that this will be the last DLC. I only read there will one before the end of the financial year.
It speculation that it will be the last one.

Even though sales is declining PZ dlcs still gaining enough money and probably the new planet game will release somewhere close to November.

That said it would not surprise me if we get two more DLCs or maybe even more than that if they sell good.

I mean the YouTube creators might be right but they have been wrong before and to me their prove from the report is not rock solid.
 
I don’t read in the financial report that this will be the last DLC. I only read there will one before the end of the financial year.
It speculation that it will be the last one.
I feel like this exact same thing has been said a hundred times already, but of course it is speculation, it's just not baseless speculation. 😅 Nobody out here is saying that it's 100% sure that it's the last one, what people are saying that there are signs.

The financial reports in the past were always pretty clear about more PDLC in the future. They referred to "PDLC in FY(NEXT FISCAL YEAR)" or in last time's case, "PDLC throughout CY2023". In all of the last few financial documents we've gotten, they did not mention anything like that. That's a clear difference from what we had before, no denying that.

It's the equivalent of someone saying to you "I'm going to the market for eggs and cookies" four days in a row, and then they say "I'm going to the market for eggs". Yes, you could assume that they'll still bring you cookies because they've always done so, but there's no guarantee. And the more likely scenario of the two is that they'll just bring eggs, because that's what they said.

There are two distinct scenarios we have atm:
  1. Frontier is planning more PDLC in the next FY, but does not announce them ahead of time
  2. Frontier is not planning more PDLC in the next FY, so they don't have anything to announce ahead of time
There does not seem to be a clear reason why they would not announce it ahead of time. Now of course, us not thinking of a reason does not mean there couldn't be one. But it would be weird for them to do so. The financial documents are meant to inform investors and given the rocky financial state of the company, it would be weird that they don't mention it. PZ sells well, so if they would do another year of PDLC they would inform their investors of it to make sure they're not stressing more.

That said, either scenario is still possible, they're just not equally likely. Most people here seem to agree that the scenario two is the most logical and likely one.

We will now whether next DLC is last by the way it's designed. If we get regular amount of animals or scenery it's good news.
Yeah as @Captain Callum has stated, we might know. We're in new waters when it comes to Frontier, so anything could possibly shift.

Especially given that not only the non-technical dev part of the PZ team was impacted, we know of at least one animator that worked on Planet Zoo that got laid off already. There's no guarantees that they only got rid of animators, most likely it's more than just that.
 
If you guys could make a single species guaranteed, what species would you choose?
The snowy owl

Might be a little bit of cheating, but forcing the most common in zoos bird of prey into the game is only rivaled by a parrot, which is imo equally valid and id force both as habitat animals.
Having birds of prey and larger parrots as habitat animals would be imo the best move to ensure the long term success of the game, as the pool of popular animals to put into packs just sky rocket.
Like just compare these two scenery packs for NA:

ABB
White Tailed Deer
Canada Goose
North American Porcupine
Corn Snake

Decent pack id say, but nothing with mass appeal.
Now swap literally any of these animals with a bald eagle and voila mass appeal secured.
 
I think it’s interesting that it’s the first time a console release is happening for a game with DLC still being developed. I honestly don’t think a DLC for PC will be released until April or even May as they’ll want full focus on console in all their marketing channels, otherwise it all gets diluted. I may be wrong. But I think it’ll be console celebration, breathing space then ending PC development with a big moment (including the DLC being a bigger offer) when console hype dies down a bit.
While i see the logic behind that, im the end does it really matter to not "dilute" their marketing?

Lets be real here, console and pc are completly different markets with different audiences.
Doesnt it make more sense to engage with both markets instead of letting the loyal pc market run dry on information?
 
But frontier shares the news in the same way which still can result in overcrowding posts. If they release the DLC while still wanting to focus on console release, there will be a lot of pz posts crowding my feed lol
Nah completly Unnessecary.
Tease in the forums and then just release with a post here and dum dum dum on steam like allways.
Doesnt matter who you are and if you engage with the forums or not, if you spend any time on steam you will be see the notification on the new update and dlc and are notified.
Social media does console and dlc is handled by the forum and steam and everyone is notified without any overlap in advertisement
 
Nah completly Unnessecary.
Tease in the forums and then just release with a post here and dum dum dum on steam like allways.
Doesnt matter who you are and if you engage with the forums or not, if you spend any time on steam you will be see the notification on the new update and dlc and are notified.
Social media does console and dlc is handled by the forum and steam and everyone is notified without any overlap in advertisement
And totally ignore for example the twitter, facebook and insta posts for the DLCs like usual? Seems a bit odd to do that, as it basically would mean ignoring a lot of advertisment for something they want to sell.
 
Nah completly Unnessecary.
Tease in the forums and then just release with a post here and dum dum dum on steam like allways.
Doesnt matter who you are and if you engage with the forums or not, if you spend any time on steam you will be see the notification on the new update and dlc and are notified.
Social media does console and dlc is handled by the forum and steam and everyone is notified without any overlap in advertisement
Idk social media is such an integral part of marketing these days that it would feel wrong for frontier to just stop doing that
 
Ofcourse it would be a little weird, but i doubt that anyone is gonna buy the new dlc because of social media.
Nevertheless, no matter what they do leaving us in the dark is like allways a bad thing cause all we can do is bad.

Doom talking and loosing hope => bad
Hyping up idears like a bigger pack or south america when frontier has different plans => bad

Predict the theme and hype up a roster thats inenviteably better then what we will get => bad

Distance ourself from the game and potentially loose interest and investment => bad

Leaving us in the dark just feeds dissapointment and disilusion with frontier, meanwhile just giving us a "hey, there will be more then one dlc coming to planet zoo" alone would rekindle alot of positivity both towards the game and frontier.
Ofcourse there are reasons to keep quiet but it doesnt need a genius to see that a bit of transparancy would be the best marketing to keep the game alive by a long shot
 
Ofcourse it would be a little weird, but i doubt that anyone is gonna buy the new dlc because of social media.
Nevertheless, no matter what they do leaving us in the dark is like allways a bad thing cause all we can do is bad.
i think you underestimate how much power social media has on these things, a lot of people only learn about the new DLC because of them, you can easily check that by just looking in the comments under any dlc announcement and see multiple comments about what animals are in the dlc, when it releases and so on. So to not advertise it on social media is just bad marketing.

"Leaving us in the dark just feeds dissapointment and disilusion with frontier, meanwhile just giving us a "hey, there will be more then one dlc coming to planet zoo" alone would rekindle alot of positivity both towards the game and frontier."

that only applies IF there is more than one DLC coming, which atm is not so likely.
 
i think you underestimate how much power social media has on these things, a lot of people only learn about the new DLC because of them, you can easily check that by just looking in the comments under any dlc announcement and see multiple comments about what animals are in the dlc, when it releases and so on. So to not advertise it on social media is just bad marketing.
That only applies if the people just do not log into steam.
Its really hard to not learn about one of your games getting new content, steam makes sure to let you know as it is in their best interest to do so, so aslong as the person interacts with videogames on their pc at all they will know
 
That only applies if the people just do not log into steam.
Its really hard to not learn about one of your games getting new content, steam makes sure to let you know as it is in their best interest to do so, so aslong as the person interacts with videogames on their pc at all they will know
that might be the case, still not everyone logs into steam every day, but they definitely are active on social media more often and multiple times a day. Hence why many, many people only learn about a new dlc through social media, since thats where they are. For a company that is bleeding money atm it seems very countereffective to just ignore a big part of their marketing strategy all of the sudden.
 
The financial reports in the past were always pretty clear about more PDLC in the future. They referred to "PDLC in FY(NEXT FISCAL YEAR)" or in last time's case, "PDLC throughout CY2023". In all of the last few financial documents we've gotten, they did not mention anything like that. That's a clear difference from what we had before, no denying that.
To play devil's advocate to this point in particular, they did not confirm more JWE2 DLCs in the next fiscal year in their latest financial report either, but data-mining has confirmed another DLC after this one.
 
that might be the case, still not everyone logs into steam every day, but they definitely are active on social media more often and multiple times a day. Hence why many, many people only learn about a new dlc through social media, since thats where they are. For a company that is bleeding money atm it seems very countereffective to just ignore a big part of their marketing strategy all of the sudden.
But is ignoring their consumers any better?
Idc if they market on social media or not, i just made the Statement that who wants to know and buy the dlc will know cause somebody else doubted frontiers willingness to advertise two similar products at the same time on social media.

If we talk about what i want, i want a statement rn about if this is the last dlc or not.
Answering this question is beneficial for everyone if the answer is no and if its the last dlc and people are upset by that then we atleast got an answer and no fake hope no more.
All being silent does is make the frustration with frontier worse once the cat is out of the bag
 
But is ignoring their consumers any better?
Idc if they market on social media or not, i just made the Statement that who wants to know and buy the dlc will know cause somebody else doubted frontiers willingness to advertise two similar products at the same time on social media.

If we talk about what i want, i want a statement rn about if this is the last dlc or not.
Answering this question is beneficial for everyone if the answer is no and if its the last dlc and people are upset by that then we atleast got an answer and no fake hope no more.
All being silent does is make the frustration with frontier worse once the cat is out of the bag
i agree with you on that one, we finally need a definitive answer to what the state of the game is now. Not just to finally settle these heated debates on social media and stop the custom of calling people doom-callers for saying the game will end (so annoying and childish my god).
 
To play devil's advocate to this point in particular, they did not confirm more JWE2 DLCs in the next fiscal year in their latest financial report either, but data-mining has confirmed another DLC after this one.
Yes but as @Doran pointed out already, this was already in the files since the Dominion release in 2022. So with the new information we have at hand, we have no confirmation that the PDLC10 slot is guaranteed. All we know is that it's there, but we're a full year since it was discovered, and Frontier has taken loads of hits in the past year; so there's a real chance they decided to cut it off early to focus their resources on the next CMS game.
 
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