My main impression from the visit to the zoo I made last week is that the lack of waterfowl in this game is criminal. A real zoo likely has far more diversity in Anseriformes than it does in felids and especially canids. The mute swan is great but ideally we'd have at least, like, 15 others. Sadly mods will have to fill most of the gaps and I'd be surprised if we got more than a single duck.
Spring 2024 DLC Speculation
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- Any bird is a good addition. Yes even a 4th penguin, or 5th ratite.
- Baring monkeys and birds, I genuinely find every continent to be complete. Compared to where we were even a year ago, most regions/continents/biomes are so much better. Every continent needs more birds, and I find tropical Africa, Asia, and South America needs monkeys. Other than that, any other animal is extra.
- I think it’s a cool animal for sure, but I don’t get the want for the blackbuck. If I had to pick an Asian ungulate I would want the muntjac.
- We need a tropical African monkey over a baboon.
- The American flamingo would be a fantastic clone, I will die on this hill.
- We need props over scenery, I don’t need another couple hundred new pieces. To keep piece count down I could use more props though. Plants are exempt from this, I always need new plants.
- As much as we think it would, I don’t know if a big bird/ aquatic/ mega pack will “save” planet zoo like how people think it would. I’m not saying Frontier is exempt from bad financial decisions, but obviously the way packs have been going was decided by something. I’m also not sure if even a big pack could get people back into the game.
- GSNM is a good monkey
- Another cat > another dog
- Iguanas were the biggest waste of opportunity in Planet Zoo. I could have got my Cayman island blue iguana habitat in another universe.
- Exhibit boxes are fantastic additions, even if they aren’t as customizable.
- I like WTEs, and would prefer we get the animals in some ways over not at all. With that being said …
- WTEs are the second biggest wast of opportunity in Planet Zoo. Still, I would rather I get a bird in them than not at all. At least the butterflies are lovely.
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Honestly my recent zoo visits made my bird fever even worse, I’ll use Franklin Park Zoo as an example:
- Waterfowl pond in the children’s zoo area. I could recreate this with the prairie dog and red panda, but without the waterfowl it isn’t the same.
- Bonus: no domestics besides the llama in the petting zoo area. Franklin park zoo doesn’t have llamas, but no other animal in game would really fit
- Wattled crane, black swans, and every single bird found around the bird world area. This includes keas, another crane species, Andean condors, and parrots. This doesn’t even mention the birds inside the bird world house, which includes more waterfowl and a number of small flying birds.
- Inside the tropical house are number of other birds, including ibis and storks.
- Bonus: the debrazza monkeys inside the tropical house also make me wish we had more monkeys.
I agree, even though the Saiga wasn't what everyone wanted for an Asian ungulate, after getting it I kinda forgot about the Blackbuck. We asked for an Asian ungulate and we got it.
Why though? All 4 of the African primates we have (chimps, gorilla, bonobo and mandrill) are all found in tropical forests plus the lemurs are obviously rainforest species. This would imo make the addition of an African desert primate more unique and stand out among the roster.
Yes, but Manteled Guereza... I recognize that a baboon is just a better pick period, but a colobus is essential for realism builders like myself. The mandrill just isn't enough!
Tbh I think it's crazy that we even are having this discussion. More monkeys should have been in the base game.
White-tailed Deer wouldn't be the worst possible pick for a clone, it ranges into South America & has a decent range of colourmorphs (including Leucistic, Melanistic, Piebald, black-brow striped & double throat patched). It even has endangered subspecies if they're so inclined.
I signed in just to quote this beautiful masterpiece.
Im looking at no challange cause there is none.
All actually challanging aspects of the game are tied to building with things like layout, design and guestflow, which are mostly just cosmetic anyways.
Currency is invalid, get 2 tortoises, press speed up, go afk for 2-3 hours and your swimming in money and cc.
The market is inflated to a point of tedium, where you have to pay max price for mid animals, creating an artifical barrier for new comers but just a little annoyance for those that allready have a franchise running.
The game is way to fast to allow for any micro decision making and some animals just die like flys.
Putting a timed mode in a game about building is just nonsense, the games strenght is in building so why am i punished for actually taking my time and making stuff pretty?
The only mode i cannot completly bash are the careers, cause while i have 0 interest in them due to prefering freedom in my builds, i can defenetly see that their handholdy nature would help players with a lack of direction.
Its boogus that i have to play them against my will for the very usefull animal statues, but thats another issue.
Now sandbox, that mode does what it says, actually alligns with the game strenghts and even allows to enable everything you do like of the "Management", easily the definitive mode of the game
Back to the “deer” discussion again? Then I have so much to say.
Its just that some really like the idear of another NA deer and others really dont
If you ask me, White Tailed Deer > NA elk cause south america and a very neat selection of biomes with the only exception being elk = both asian and north american elk, then thats obviously the much better and cooler pick, but idk enough about elks to judge if thats a viable option or if the populations are to different from each other
WTD does nothing for SA. Sure it's range extends all the way down but is not representstive nor important for SA zoos or sections. Is not like the puma. SA has way more interesting deer: marsh deer, pudus, huemul, pampas with a lot more of conservation value. Also a rhea is more important for SA than a WTD.
If anything, getting the saiga made me want the blackbuck even more since it felt like it was taking it's place. The blackbuck is much more useful than the saiga than other that looking cool has no use for me in the game. It has a conservation story going for it and that's it. Blackbuck is one of the most beautiful antelopes and would be used more in the game, great for mixed exhibits and common in captivity.
Honestly the answer is simply because all 5 of those animals are not true monkeys, at least not close enough to it for me.
Regarding deer, my point of view is simply that we have so many "antelopes" and most of them belong to the same continent. Then I think it is completely acceptable for Asia, NA, and SA to have 2 to 3 types of deer of their own. Look at the deer we have now, there are actually 4 species in Europe.
NA already has 2 deer. Reindeer and moose. Even though the reindeer species seems to be the nordic one.
The classic part of the never ending cycle! We don’t need more cats! The Pallas cat will be nice. We don’t need more dogs! Maybe the bush dog isn’t too bad! We really need a baboon. Ok, but have we considered the gelada? We have so many crocodilians! Africa really needs one! We have so many antelopes! Asia could use a true antelope. If we get a ratite it should be the greater Rhea. Ok, but how about the tinamou? We already have three monitor species. Have you seen the perentie though?
I have nothing against any animal choice, but all of this is due to the fact that there is a micro niche for every single animal. Which means there will always be another animal to ask for. That’s why in my unpopular opinion post I think birds and monkeys are the last group that truly needs expansion on (I’ll honestly give some exceptions), many of those big niches are still left very empty. Entire continents do not have bird representation in game, Africa and South America have barley even scratched the monkey surface.
The speculation is definitely fun, and obviously whether it is someone’s favorite animal or whatever niche they need there is nothing wrong with it. I do find the whole cyclical conversation funny though.
Perhaps it's not the same people
I for sure could name Animal Pack worth of ungulates that I would love to see in game
The funny thing is it's mostly the same people asking for birds change to asking for more carnivores and ungulates depending on the week.Perhaps it's not the same people
I for sure could name Animal Pack worth of ungulates that I would love to see in game
We don't complain about too many ungulates just that half of them are african, most are antelopes and some packs were filled with them instead of more interesting choices. But i still want several ungulates: blackbuck, markhor, musk ox, gerenuk, greater kudu, muntjac, Brazilian tapir, etc.
And i want all of them
Oh I want them too! I was using it as an example!We don't complain about too many ungulates just that half of them are african, most are antelopes and some packs were filled with them instead of more interesting choices. But i still want several ungulates: blackbuck, markhor, musk ox, gerenuk, greater kudu, muntjac, Brazilian tapir, etc.
And i want all of them