I have over 30 fully engineered ships, but I won't upgrade all of them with the new SCO, maybe my explorers and one or two others
The new SCO Drive and it's jump range...
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Not quite...My guess is that our resident pest control officer will be among them.
But almost.
I did pledge to SC for about the same as a regular game some years back, but they haven't (and won't) got another penny from me.
I'll not be bothered too much if FD sells stuff on the store which players have to work toward in the game, to 'encourage' new / less active players to do more, but it will be the players who actually decide if the idea sinks or swims.
Me? I know how to say "No" and am not afraid to exercise it, it is my favourite word to salespeople and I don't intend to change that ability for a game, even if I'm willing to spend a small amount to have more fun, I ain't much bigger than a minnow financially
I too have many ships, but I still am not going to be mad if my old FSDs become effectively obsolete, because I will end up saving time in the long run tbh. Less than a week of upgrading traded for months and months, if not years, of more efficient game play is something I'm on board with.
You know Jack, mine was a rhetorical question/joke, we know the answerPask said:
at least ppl will stop asking to make avail all size CG pre-eng FSD, because only the 5A v1 can be bought at human tech broker.
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I wouldn't start making any plans around the SCO FSD stats being shown off on partner streams. There's something obviously wrong with the numbers on the test server. For example not only did an A grade SCO have better range stats than existing A grade FSDs, but a C grade SCO of the same size was also shown to have the same stats as the A grade SCO except with lower heat during overcharge. So not only did C grade differ from live on the test server, but it was also objectively better than the A grade drive with no downsides for some reason.
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More money for FDev means more life-time for Elite, so yay to everything! I wouldn't even mind them admitting that they committed to the dark side and offering unicorn modules and murderboats for cash. It's just this "oh no, it is no pay2win, it is a convenience for the customers, it is a time-saver" crap I find kind of funny. In the end they will continue on the road they started with ARX, anyway. And people will still defend it right up to SC levels. My guess is that our resident pest control officer will be among them
Of course some people will defend any monetisation scheme no matter what. There are still enough players such that that a wide variety of opinions can be found. I'd bet that some people objected to the introduction of Arx. People argue about P2W because they have different ideas about what crosses that line, and over how much monetisation they're personally willing to tolerate in the games that they play. I feel like this leads to a lot of toxic discourse when people don't recognise this subjective element.
It's my understanding that it's still not clear whether these A-rated FCO FSDs will be available without Arx, apparently various partners have been saying conflicting things on the subject. Clarification from FDev would be most helpful.
If the old tech is cheaper and still works well then it could remain relevant.
I bought small town cars with 1.4 and 1.6 engines for decades and put up with two-figure horsepower.It devalues what I have done as if it were nothing.
You can do better signing up to the game now.
Why not leave the SCO advantage as being only one thing, Super Cruise Boost?
Then Ford released the EcoBoost Fiestas which are 1.0L and three-figure horsepower.
By your logic I "wasted" money on the earlier Peugeots, Suzukis, Seats, Ladas (ok we don't talk about that one)
Are you suggesting I should have walked everywhere knowing that all of these 1.0l biturbo miracles would appear on the market in the 2010s?
I've read some people complain that the SCO should have worse jump range and I think to myself, "What??? Why can't something new just be better than something old?"
Not everything has to be a "hard decision" or a "trade off" just because this is a video game. Example: Supercruise Assist and docking modules. They should just be software installed by default on ship computers. But instead we get the "hard choice" about if its worth a size 1 slot. The answer is always NO. Having my ship auto-fly itself in the blue zone the entire way to a destination is not worth the trade-off of any other module that could fit in a size 1 slot. That slot is 100% always better served as a DSS, HRP, 1A Prospector Controller.... I fitted a SCA module the first day they came out and I thought it was fun to use but there is no build I'll ever make where module economy allows for it so I'm kind of sad that something cool was added to the game that I'll never use.
And then I remembered that some of the people who play this game are the reason we have to pay for the privilege to wait for our ships and modules to be delivered anywhere, and I rolled my eyes.
Not everything has to be a "hard decision" or a "trade off" just because this is a video game. Example: Supercruise Assist and docking modules. They should just be software installed by default on ship computers. But instead we get the "hard choice" about if its worth a size 1 slot. The answer is always NO. Having my ship auto-fly itself in the blue zone the entire way to a destination is not worth the trade-off of any other module that could fit in a size 1 slot. That slot is 100% always better served as a DSS, HRP, 1A Prospector Controller.... I fitted a SCA module the first day they came out and I thought it was fun to use but there is no build I'll ever make where module economy allows for it so I'm kind of sad that something cool was added to the game that I'll never use.
And then I remembered that some of the people who play this game are the reason we have to pay for the privilege to wait for our ships and modules to be delivered anywhere, and I rolled my eyes.
Agree with you that SCA should be a "software" feature that takes up no module space, but feel completely different about actually using it. While I can live without a docking computer and these days I tend to leave it out so that I can get better at using my HOSAS setup, I absolutely can't stand the "gameplay" offered by regular supercruise travel. Losing a small module slot is absolutely worth not having to just sit there making tiny adjustments while watching a number go down.
Same, and hopefully these new SCO drives will be able to alleviate some of that.
Seconded.
Yeah, there's self driving cars IRL with much smaller hardware than 1 slot.
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Personally not much complaining, just pointing out that it would be a rather dramatic change. Make an entire line of modules obsolete. Outfitting better stop selling them so newbies won't mistakenly buy the bad one. I do think it would be more interesting if it would be a choice, but won't say no for all-out better drives. Can't refit all of my ships at once, but it'll be easy enough to do the ones I fly most first and slowly work through the rest of the hangar.
I still have the Type 9 as trader for my main account at least. Nicer jump range and can comfortably fit a some sort of fuel scoop and still have as much cargo capacity as my alt's Cutter. Depends a lot on how you like to build your ships, of course.
The Cutter should be outjumping the Type 9 by quite a bit. As for obsolete items, the game is littered with them. They have Explosion resistance buffing engineering for shields after all. Turreted large cannons? Some of this stuff was obsolete the moment it was released, even. The difference is that a regular FSD can probably be found everywhere, but an SCO might be harder to get and cost more money. For new players, that at least gives them a "pre-engineering" upgrade they can buy with credits. For veterans, it gives us something to work on. It sounds like a win-win to me.
No, Bad Design is Bad Design.
I think that is what we are saying.
This is not good design.
I think the grind part is then having to engineer them (new SCO Drive) all.
Which is what people were talking about.
So you missed what has been talked about.
I would go for the A Size, because in this game A is better and C is worse.
Have to wait for the release in game.
We are talking about the game and the effort in the game.
Taxi Drivers here have to buy their license plates.
They started at AUD $20,000 when they were first available.
They then went up to AUD $250,000.
People use them as their retirement fund.
Around 10 years ago Uber was allowed, the value is now gone on those plates.
Real world example. They earnt money, but it was not worth the long term investment.
Stock market crash is another one, not a little one, the big ones were people have to stop their retirement and start working again.
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I heard it too.When did I hear T8 in FD streams ? Can't remember