Community Event / Creation Thrustmaster Warthog Configuration & Sheets

[MikeyTT]

Im gonna try to play with the TARGET software too. Thanks for that heads up...
Oh yea, why wouldn't the standard keyboard mappings not map perfectly?
I mean why would you say this? Have you seen things not map correctly within TARGET Mikey?
Just wondering...

The hostility in your post isn't appreciated imadot.
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As I stated, I did start mapping the Target controls against the published keyboard maps. I don't recall exactly why on certain controls I have drifted from the default keyboard map. It could have been that the key binding didn't work on the switch, or that the feature was limited if it did. Or that it seemed logical to me to map to a DX binding instead. It may be that the keyboard map has changed over time. It's many months back since I created them and since I have run ED for that matter, so I just don't know.
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I needed a hand when I first started with the Warthog, which was kindly given to me. I chose to publish my profile and mapping on the off chance that it helped others. I'm sure that there has been at least a couple of people who the profile has helped. If you are not one of those then that's fine. I never intended it to be a must use profile, just a leg up into the world of Target profile mapping.
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If you think that having a profile based on the default keyboard map is a better approach then, go for it. Why not create a thread and share it with the community. When I finally get around to launching ED, then I might even check your version out to see if it's a better fit.

 

[Eirichur]

My Thrustmaster HOTAS configuration is based on MikeyTT's profile. I'm also using Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals to control the yaw axis.

What do you think is most practical to map to the individual pedals commonly used for toe brakes? For the time being I haven't been using them at all, as I've gotten used to controlling all the essentials (aside from yaw) using the HOTAS.

 

[imadot]

The hostility in your post isn't appreciated imadot.
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As I stated, I did start mapping the Target controls against the published keyboard maps. I don't recall exactly why on certain controls I have drifted from the default keyboard map. It could have been that the key binding didn't work on the switch, or that the feature was limited if it did. Or that it seemed logical to me to map to a DX binding instead. It may be that the keyboard map has changed over time. It's many months back since I created them and since I have run ED for that matter, so I just don't know.
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I needed a hand when I first started with the Warthog, which was kindly given to me. I chose to publish my profile and mapping on the off chance that it helped others. I'm sure that there has been at least a couple of people who the profile has helped. If you are not one of those then that's fine. I never intended it to be a must use profile, just a leg up into the world of Target profile mapping.
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If you think that having a profile based on the default keyboard map is a better approach then, go for it. Why not create a thread and share it with the community. When I finally get around to launching ED, then I might even check your version out to see if it's a better fit.

Hostility? I was surprised when I read this.

I guess im just too blunt- sorry..
And Im sorry that you think I was being hostile... That was not the case ; )
I was just asking why is all, I hate text for that reason sometimes.
And BTW- when I get hostile you will know it. <gg> ; )
That said, no harm was intended, really, and I appreciate your help!
I did get the WartHog set in and wish I could get them to work with the new Saitek Pro Combat rudders, but as of 3.91 the Rudder Pedals wont bind in analog for me...
I just read elsewhere that its due for a fix tomorrow- YAY!

 

[MikeyTT]

Hostility? I was surprised when I read this.

I guess im just too blunt- sorry..
And Im sorry that you think I was being hostile... That was not the case ; )
I was just asking why is all, I hate text for that reason sometimes.
And BTW- when I get hostile you will know it. <gg> ; )
That said, no harm was intended, really, and I appreciate your help!
I did get the WartHog set in and wish I could get them to work with the new Saitek Pro Combat rudders, but as of 3.91 the Rudder Pedals wont bind in analog for me...
I just read elsewhere that its due for a fix tomorrow- YAY!

I did re-read the post a few times and line 2 and the start of line 3 just kept jumping out as hostile to me. I've often see the whole "lost in translation" effect, which is why I'm normally very careful. I got the wrong end of the stick, so please accept my apology for that.
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I'm hoping to finally get into ED tomorrow and see what's changed since I was last on in anger, which was probably the end of July!! I'm sure one or two things have changed, so I'll give the control mapping a double check over and see if it needs an update.
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Did you have a look at the default keyboard mapping and see if it should have worked with Target? I did have a quick look earlier tonight and there were a few that mapped to DX controls, like the Hard Points and heat sink. I really cannot think why I strayed some of the mappings. I'll have a look when I'm in tomorrow and see if I can switch some back to match the keyboard maps for consistency...

 

[Brun]

One good reason for modifying the keyboard mapping is that there are several functions not mapped by default. For example 'cycle prev fire group, prev target/subsystem'. There's also now the option to use separate bindings for supercruise/hyperspace but these aren't mapped by default either.

Given the number of buttons available on the warthog it would be daft to not customise the mapping to take advantage of these.

 

[Raven King]

I'm hoping to finally get into ED tomorrow and see what's changed since I was last on in anger, which was probably the end of July!! I'm sure one or two things have changed, so I'll give the control mapping a double check over and see if it needs an update.

Hi MikeyTT, first of all thanks for posting your profile and custom bindings. I think they're a whole lot better than the default Thrustmaster Warthog bindings built into ED at the moment (where so far as I can tell, a lot of the switches and hats don't appear to do anything even thought they are mapped to a function according to the in-game Options > Controls menu, which seems odd). It feels like those could relatively easily be updated by FD at some point - maybe even before the 16th Dec launch? But I'm looking forward very much to seeing whether you decide you need to update your profiles for the Warthog or not.

Anyway, to my question - aimed at Thrustmaster Warthog users in general. How often do you find ED crashes when you try to rebind buttons and switches to new functions. It seems to crash about 70% of the time I rebind a control - odd that it's not 100% or nothing, but somewhere between. I've raised a support ticket for this, but I was curious to know if it's just me or whether others are seeing it too, as I've not spotted a known issue or a lot of discussion on the forums about this. I just got my stick & throttle yesterday, so I'm a newbie with them, but it doesn't feel like user error at the moment. Anyone else getting crashes rebinding buttons?

Thanks all!

 

[terminatahx]

No binding related crashes.

 

[flyjdix11]

Gamma: In game control bindings not recognizing TARGET generated X/Y/Throttle Axis?

Is anyone else suddenly having issues with the Gamma release using their TARGET profile for warthog? After running the script, the in-game control configuration is not recognizing the "virtual generated axis" provided by the script software. The ingame config recognizes the buttons fine, I just have no control axis. I had no problems with this before the Gamma. When not using a script... (no virtual generated axis using TARGET) the in-game control configs recognize the stick and buttons fine.....

But then I lose all my fancy special and fun buttons and switches that I set up with my profile... and this makes me a sad panda

 

[Blazer1023]

Hi,

Thanks for the great information so would the best option be to program the WARTHOG in TARGET if you have the right or preferred profile or still try to alter in the in game Thrustmaster WARTHOG option page? I see the profile offered above but also see in their post no Joy Stick selections were made. Can someone please help a newbie who just opened Elite and just opened his first WARTHOG HOTAS with a profile that would work on both the Thrust and Joystick components. I've tried several times to alter the in game profile but it doesn't seem to save correctly and I have to redo selections. What may I be missing?

 

[Yaffle]

Hello Blazer

The warthog works fine by just using it in Elite. You can't do some esoteric things, such as make the LEDs change, but other that than you can do just about everything, including double button presses (imagine one button as a SHIFT key).

I used TARGET for a while, not I just use my own mapping of the default. Main problem - remembering where everything is.

 

[CATPAIN KIRK]

Hello Blazer

The warthog works fine by just using it in Elite. You can't do some esoteric things, such as make the LEDs change, but other that than you can do just about everything, including double button presses (imagine one button as a SHIFT key).

I used TARGET for a while, not I just use my own mapping of the default. Main problem - remembering where everything is.

Well - that may be among the esoteric things you refer to, but I personally use TARGET for:

• Micro scripts, like automated heat sink deployment on switching silent running on for instant cooldown
• Using the two stage trigger to fire all guns when fully pressed (couldn't get that one to work without it)
• Taking a high res screenshot
• Start recording video
• Mp3 player controls (play/pause, next/previous song, music volume +/-)

It's not a necessity, but I really appreciate its functionality.

 

[Blazer1023]

Thanks for the input guys! I've tried several times now to just use the in game Option Menu and then select Thrustmaster WARTHOG as my default and make edits to that. I would go out to the radioactive canister demo try a few things and then go back edit, back edit etc. It seems that when I do that the changes do apply correctly and revert and I lose what was edited. Once selected shouldn't the HOTAS option stay selected and allow me to jump in and out with edits? Thanks for your thoughts. I love the equipment great eye candy and solid feel just need to get a solid bind and learning HOTAS control.

 

[Blazer1023]

Thrustmaster Warthog Joystick and Throttle

All,

Just to clarify and I just experienced it again. When I go to Options and select Controls I select the Thrustmaster Warthog binding. Question, I can make edits but they don't seem to Save when I finish. I hit the Apply button and Resume the training scenario to test the changes and their gone. I go back to the Options panel and Custom is in the selection window NOT Thrustmaster Warthog and I have to re-select it again. Can edits be made to that configuration or is that menu selection set and NO changes can be done to it?? Do I have to start from scratch and hand enter everything from the beginning? Go in and out of the panel the issue, it would seem the correct coding would allow Thrustmaster to be selected and stay selected with your edits or change configs in and out of scenarios allowing you to change and save. Could this be a over site or designed that way?

Blazer
:S

 

[flyjdix11]

All,

Just to clarify and I just experienced it again. When I go to Options and select Controls I select the Thrustmaster Warthog binding. Question, I can make edits but they don't seem to Save when I finish. I hit the Apply button and Resume the training scenario to test the changes and their gone. I go back to the Options panel and Custom is in the selection window NOT Thrustmaster Warthog and I have to re-select it again. Can edits be made to that configuration or is that menu selection set and NO changes can be done to it?? Do I have to start from scratch and hand enter everything from the beginning? Go in and out of the panel the issue, it would seem the correct coding would allow Thrustmaster to be selected and stay selected with your edits or change configs in and out of scenarios allowing you to change and save. Could this be a over site or designed that way?

Blazer
:S

I'm having the same issue Blazer. Seems like they need to get a more solid way of saving custom binds.

 

[Polared]

once you've made a change to the default profile it's title will change to custom, that will contain the changes you have made, if you then choose HOTAS from the control device menu again it will revert back to the default HOTAS profile, thus wiping out all your changes.
so basically, choose HOTAS from the menu once and only choose it again if you want to reset to defaults, otherwise leave it on custom and it'll retain any changes you make.

BTW once you've got it set up make sure to make a backup of your custom profile, that way you won't need to go through the whole setup rigmarole after every update. you'll find it in \Users\USER\Local\Frontier Developments\Elite Dangerous\Options\Bindings
make sure you've got show hidden folders turned to on in windows

 

[Blazer1023]

Well that certainly explains my frustrations, and yes I've sent quite a lot of time now modifying custom for both throttle and stick plus adding keyboard actions in prep for Voice Attack. I need to offload and get voice working to many things on Warthog right now. Maybe with time I'd get used to the actions but I've seen too many You Tube with voice commands to not try it right away. Warthog and VA together will be awesome. BTW thanks for the advice on the Binding file, found it and it's saved. Maybe a little explanation on how that Options area works for the new folks coming on board in a couple of weeks might help.

 

[VRevs]

Hi MikeyTT,

Firstly, thanks for the hotas Target scrips. I'm having fun setting up the game.
Totally a newbie when it comes to Target Software. I have my warthog for less than a week...

Running through the control setting, there's one button that I'm confuse about.

The Reverse Trottle and Deploy Heat Sink seem to share the same key when I run them in Elite Dangerous. (Using Target)
They both show 'JOY 32'

Running through the Target profile, I see that they're on a different setup... but its not the case when I run Elite.. No clue where I went wrong.

PS: If I don't use Target and use the Default Warthog from Elite, I don't have the issue.

 

[Halface]

Sine myold 52 pro descided that its firebutton wouldt work i went for a New stick and throttle...plan was x55 how it lokked the prize range..but thatka toi Saiteks slow weird shipping to my contry it has taken over two months..so i said F.... it iam getting a Warthog ....i have combat rudders ...and well had it for two days still little unused to the configuration iam running...but i love it......and my Controls are kinda running the Elite opetion thrustmaster...With my own buttons mix....kinda like a bad burned Music cd..only i love it ...

 

[dirkw2002]

Joy 29

Hello Mike and everyone else who is helping out here,

Thanks for all your efforts!

I tried to follow your video and do the settings within ED, but I got stuck at the point where you assign "Decrease Senor Range" to 'Joy 29' (around 8:26 in the video)... What button/switch are you actually activating there?

I am unable to locate 'Joy 29' on the Throttle pad... On the diagram it shows 29 as the right throttle.

Thanks,

Dirk

 

[LeLv30_Superbus]

Again a shame they are hidden by the throttle. I can only assume the aircraft has the same "feature"?

A-10C aircraft does not have any lights on the throttle panel (except backlighting on the lettering - all of the lettering, unlike TM Warthog). The controller isn't really a replica of A-10C's throttle and LASTE panels, just close enough to be marketed as such. (It's also awesome and actually cheap - but you know all that.)

The real one does not have a Friction Wheel in the front of the throttle panel either. The analog axis on the right side is the friction control on the real thing. That's why it's so difficult to reach - you are not supposed to adjust it on every flight!

However, the most notable difference is the leftmost analog stick on the right throttle. The real thing looks the same, but works much better. The tiny stick isn't there, instead the whole moves around, just like the rightmost (digital) hat next to it.

The leds are useful for testing purposes only, they are too difficult to see in flight. However, if you add the excellent TM MFD panels, they have four programmable leds on top which can be useful indicators. They are controlled by Target too.

Sorry if this was discussed before, I stumbled upon this thread today.