DLC18 discussion and predictions

Islands won’t happen cause there’s no iconic animals left other than the tree roo.

Anything to do with an old world continent is out of the question because we’ve gotten packs for all 3 twice.

Probably not a biome pack since we haven’t gotten one in forever and there really isn’t many left except mountains which doesn’t feel summer-y to me. Rainforest could work but we’ve had that so many times already.

Then there are other random themes that also make no sense like an endangered pack cause we already have one, or a specific region pack like India which isn’t happening cause we’ve never gotten a country pack plus we just got Asian animals.

So for me, that leaves 2 options, Latin America or Keeper Collection - I just see the collection pack as too likely I can’t think of any other scenario even for a LA pack. It truly feels like the end and a keeper collection pack is the perfect way to end things, definitely not changing this idea at least til we get more info.
Why not both? Zookeeper's Collection with half or over half of roster being SA. It certainly wouldn't go against the spirit of the pack
 
Islands won’t happen cause there’s no iconic animals left other than the tree roo.

Anything to do with an old world continent is out of the question because we’ve gotten packs for all 3 twice.

Probably not a biome pack since we haven’t gotten one in forever and there really isn’t many left except mountains which doesn’t feel summer-y to me. Rainforest could work but we’ve had that so many times already.

Then there are other random themes that also make no sense like an endangered pack cause we already have one, or a specific region pack like India which isn’t happening cause we’ve never gotten a country pack plus we just got Asian animals.

So for me, that leaves 2 options, Latin America or Keeper Collection - I just see the collection pack as too likely I can’t think of any other scenario even for a LA pack. It truly feels like the end and a keeper collection pack is the perfect way to end things, definitely not changing this idea at least til we get more info.

- I agree that islands isnt likley everything possibly left would be very much oddballs there is enough to make a pack but it would be a strange potentially with a focus of south east asia pacific islands or the caribbean.

- as far as im aware there is only one north america pack and 2 asia packs what are the others?
Also there is an incredible bias towards these continents so it wouldnt surprise me if we still got another pack dominated by them since people still want even more asian animals even though it has the majority of ingame animals.

- the last biome pack wasnt even a year ago I could very easily see them bringing back another one for something like tundra or coastal

- we have gotten a country pack its name is australia. India is just as diverse in terms of wildlife due to its unique state as a continent but ultimately alot wouldnt be super iconic so I would see it being a more general asia pack with a heavy focus on india.

- I have no problem with your predictions and I think both are going to happen before support ends.
 
- as far as im aware there is only one north america pack and 2 asia packs what are the others?
Old world continents are Europe Asia and Africa, Africa pack, Arid pack, Eurasia pack, SEA pack, Europe pack, and basically Barnyard as a third european pack.
- we have gotten a country pack its name is australia.
Australia is both a country and a continent so I consider it a continental pack like the rest not a country.
being a more general asia pack with a heavy focus on india.
I can't see this happening when we already have the SEA and Eurasia packs.
 
Old world continents are Europe Asia and Africa, Africa pack, Arid pack, Eurasia pack, SEA pack, Europe pack, and basically Barnyard as a third european pack.

Australia is both a country and a continent so I consider it a continental pack like the rest not a country.

I can't see this happening when we already have the SEA and Eurasia packs.
My bad for some reason I completely blanked and thought oldworld referred to laurasian continents not the stupid colonial term for eastern and western hemispheres and I can see what you mean now except for africa which I still dont know which pack your saying is africa 3.

Realistically biogeographically india is a continent or at least a strongly independent region and considering that we have both australia and oceania the continent australia is apart of that argument falls flat.

People want more asia it is like the one global region that everyone wants more of because asian animals are some of the most common globally cobras and monkeys would almost be enough to sell the pack alone. We literally have a thread here dedicated to asian deer that is still fairly active there is definitely demand. South america / central america is a much more likely regional pack than asia / india but it isnt impossible.
 
what are peoples thoughts on console release doing well enough to consider physical release do we think it will extend support not necessarily dlc for longer than we thought.
 
what are peoples thoughts on console release doing well enough to consider physical release do we think it will extend support not necessarily dlc for longer than we thought.
Id guess that it didnt make a difference.
Im pretty sure you cant deceide something like that on a whim. So if support was planed to end after the next DLC, console selling well probably is coming to late as a factor to have any impact on that since thats something i assume you have to plan in advance as a company. I mean you have to notify employees about getting moved to other projects or getting layed off completely in time, in addition to probably 100s of other things going along with ending support for a title
 
Old world continents are Europe Asia and Africa, Africa pack, Arid pack, Eurasia pack, SEA pack, Europe pack, and basically Barnyard as a third european pack.

Australia is both a country and a continent so I consider it a continental pack like the rest not a country.

I can't see this happening when we already have the SEA and Eurasia packs.

Tropical and Conservation are also a split between África and Asia. Only the exhibit animals are from the "New World".
 
WHERE ARE MY LATINOS?! I can't wait for the announcement of the next DLC which MUST be about neotropical fauna
I will say, as much as it would make me sad to lose some old world animals, I really do think LATAM/ South America/ the “Americas” should have this next dlc.

Every dlc of last year focused on the old world (and Oceania), with the Americas only getting the sloth, and peccary. Even the barnyard pack was European breed heavy, though the donkey is nice it doesn’t quite cut it.
 
I will say, as much as it would make me sad to lose some old world animals, I really do think LATAM/ South America/ the “Americas” should have this next dlc.

Every dlc of last year focused on the old world (and Oceania), with the Americas only getting the sloth, and peccary. Even the barnyard pack was European breed heavy, though the donkey is nice it doesn’t quite cut it.
I also recognize Frontier would never do a pack how I would like it. LATAM/ South America 2/ Americas as a pack would probably be more safe, providing less of the monkeys/birds/rodents/reptiles than I would like. Still, South America needs the representation more than most regions, especially after last year basically buffed most of the old world.

I’m open to being pleasantly surprised, but I am keeping my expectations low.
 
Any pack can and would work if the content is good enough.
Its just that frontiers decision making can be very hit or miss.
An island pack for example can easily still thrive with tree roo, shetland pony, kunekune, nene, rhinoceros iguana, crested macaque, radiated tortoise and any whacky island exhibit animal like the legendary stick insect. That is a pack that isnt unreasonable in work load, would add 2 reptiles, a monkey and a bird and has 2 great petting zoo animals as the obligatory cloney ungulates of the pack aswell as the treeroo as the clear headliner. And a free update where the iguanas would be moved to the rhinoceros igunanas rigg as habitat animals and a system where some animals can be put both in habitat and exhibit with the radiated tortoise, rhino iguana and cuviers dwarf caiman also using that feature would make for a more then solid free update.
Would frontier actually do this?
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Tbh out of that roster the only ones that interest me are the tree roo and the nene. An habitat iguana would be nice Indeed though, but i deffinetly don't need anymore English domestics and even if it is not English, deffinetly not another pig. A Victoria crowned pigeon would be much more interesting than any oh them, Caribbean flamingo and brown pelican would work for Caribbean Rep while adding more birds and variety and we are also missing the aye-aye for Madagascar, which looks and behave very different from the other lemurs we have and it is fairly requested. And please not the creepy macaque 🫣

So for me a good Islands animal pack roster would be
  • Tree kangaroo (Australia/ New Guinea)
  • Victoria crowned pigeon (New Guinea)
  • Brown pelican (Caribbean Islands)
  • Nene goose (Hawaii)
  • Aye-aye (Madagascar)
  • Marine iguana (Galápagos)
  • Japanese serow (Japan)
  • Ex: Coconut crabs

You get three birds, 1 primate, 1 arboreal marsupial, 1 reptiles and 1 obligated ungulates.

That said i think an Islands pack is extremely unlikely after Oceanía and Tropical.
 
Here's my Island Animal Pack Idea.
  • Matchie's Tree Kangaroo
  • Channel Island Fox**
  • Nene Goose
  • Japanese Serow
  • Sulawesi Bear Cuscus
  • Walrus
  • Kakapo
  • Pigeons and Doves (WE)
**I know Island Fox was said as a joke but I think he would be a fine addition being related to genetically unique Grey Foxes...
 
An island pack for example can easily still thrive with tree roo, shetland pony, kunekune, nene, rhinoceros iguana, crested macaque, radiated tortoise and any whacky island exhibit animal like the legendary stick insect.
I mean if Frontier kept up this diversity packs like in Wetlands and Grasslands then I would be excited for every pack. I do like this choice of animals! As you said though the problem is Frontier can be hit or miss, even something basic like picking the most common petting zoo breed they can mess up. Which is why packs like Islands or others I struggle with. While I’m sure they will have options I like, the rest of the pack may leave me scratching my head. Now I’m not the 100% end all be all opinion for packs, but it can be so weird sometimes.

  • Tree kangaroo (Australia/ New Guinea)
  • Victoria crowned pigeon (New Guinea)
  • Brown pelican (Caribbean Islands)
  • Nene goose (Hawaii)
  • Aye-aye (Madagascar)
  • Marine iguana (Galápagos)
  • Japanese serow (Japan)
  • Ex: Coconut crabs

You get three birds, 1 primate, 1 arboreal marsupial, 1 reptiles and 1 obligated ungulates.

That said i think an Islands pack is extremely unlikely after Oceanía and Tropical.
I like this list of animals too! But once again the problem is “the community” can make up better pack ideas than whatever limitations/ choices Frontier makes. I don’t know why, Wetlands was wonderfully diverse , Grasslands was great, then they barely tried to keep that pace up.

I just hope for this next dlc they go back to Wetlands/ Grasslands styles of animal packs.
 
Tbh out of that roster the only ones that interest me are the tree roo and the nene. An habitat iguana would be nice Indeed though, but i deffinetly don't need anymore English domestics and even if it is not English, deffinetly not another pig. A Victoria crowned pigeon would be much more interesting than any oh them, Caribbean flamingo and brown pelican would work for Caribbean Rep while adding more birds and variety and we are also missing the aye-aye for Madagascar, which looks and behave very different from the other lemurs we have and it is fairly requested. And please not the creepy macaque 🫣

So for me a good Islands animal pack roster would be
  • Tree kangaroo (Australia/ New Guinea)
  • Victoria crowned pigeon (New Guinea)
  • Brown pelican (Caribbean Islands)
  • Nene goose (Hawaii)
  • Aye-aye (Madagascar)
  • Marine iguana (Galápagos)
  • Japanese serow (Japan)
  • Ex: Coconut crabs

You get three birds, 1 primate, 1 arboreal marsupial, 1 reptiles and 1 obligated ungulates.

That said i think an Islands pack is extremely unlikely after Oceanía and Tropical.
Wait whats wrong with the macaque?
 
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