She's a beauty! (New ship revealed--Mandalay)

Michael Ryan

Michael Ryan
Jack Winter said:
I've just realized that if they keep adding 4 new ships a year, they'll get a bit more than 50 quid a year from me.. :)
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We are want to thank you for support our favourite game with real money :)

Rat Catcher said:
Excellent... So you don't exist for them either!
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Mm... i love this kind of irony :D

Shir said:
I'm wondering how will they balance this ship. It's basically competing with the Anaconda, which being large will always have more space for utilities and extras, but also basically with the Asp explorer. Both these ships have to stay somewhat relative, although being able to use the Sco drive to reach planets half a million clicks away kinda kills the competition. Then there's also the Diamondback Explorer..
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These are new ships. There shouldn't be balanced. Retcon is the key.

Danieros said:
Looks great - would be even better if those large wings are to fit a size 8 FSD!
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With the mass of the mamba FSD 6A makes it jump like more than 100 Ly :)

TiberiusDuval said:
That zero rebuy for example gives you nice advantage. Unfair one.
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Few milions of rebuy doesn't sounds like big advantage.

Alien said:
I'm not complaining it's unfair. Everyone has that option, so in a sense it is fair, but it's the attitude* Frontier now seem to have towards us players I don't like. It's changed from making a game we will enjoy playing and want to play to how much money can they get us to part with. That's what I don't like about the pay-with-arx-to-get-the-thing-early business model Frontier now work under.

At some point, you have to take a stand for what you believe to be right. I don't want to give Frontier any more money for anything now, be it Elite or Planet Coaster or anything they do. They've ruined Elite for me and I rarely log in now, I just don't want to give any money to a company that thinks it's ok to rip off their customers.

* = the attitude is 100% how I perceive it to be, and if you consider it to have no basis in fact, that's your choice, I don't care, just like how Frontier don't seem to care what you and I think any more. And no, I'm not complaining about that either, but I don't have to be happy about it.

EDIT: and yes I will keep bringing it up, because I'm not the only one not happy about the way Frontier have gone, and it would be wrong for everyone (incl Frontier) to think people are ok with it now and will just forgive and forget.
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Money are important if you need to spend hours working on a game improvement. Paying once 10 years ago for a game and expected to creators are like goldfish making dreams come true? Not reallly possible.
 

Rebel Yell

Rebel Yell
Alaska Sædelære said:
This comes from "andale!" in Spanish. My immediate association was with the city of the same name in Myanmar and my first thought was wtX how did they come up with this for a spaceship? I guess it's just supposed to sound somehow beautiful, knowing that the masses don't care much about geography.
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Indeed... I'd have named it Cascabel or Copperhead (besides my fav remains Bushmaster, but not very suitable for an explo-ship).
 

Michael Ryan

Michael Ryan
Alaska Sædelære said:
[*]It doesn't seem like you can see downward from the cockpit. This would make a big difference for searching the ground, which is usually the most time-consuming aspect of exobiology.
[*]How big is the landing footprint, considering the frequent need to land in rugged terrain? Looking at the underside it seems indeed quite a bit smaller than the bird's silhouette suggests. Is it comparable to smaller ships in this regard, e.g. DBX?
[*]The vectored thrusters are very cool, of course. Beside the fun to look at them, does it have an effect on the physical simulation, i.e. does it afford palpably faster take-off than we're used to?
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Alaska Sædelære said:
Valid point about staying within the medium ship class for comparison, but I was thinking of the possibly smaller landing footprint, if true. This would be of great importance to me. Also in regards to jump range since they made it such a strong point, DBX would be the nearest dedicated exploration ship.
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I fly with nose down, so the cockpit is still good, I don't look down in the DBX or other cockpits like that. If it will be good in atmospheric flights it is more than enough to great exploration experience.
Checked here and there, I did some comparision and it looks like footprint will be almost same size as DBX, but DBX needs all that surface to land, and this ship has three legs and very lot of spice under "the belly".


Ozric said:
I would say that if you're putting a new Medium Exploration ship into the game then the benchmark should be the other medium exploration ship the Asp Explorer. Why would we want to choose this over the Asp. Obviously we need more details on this, but the cockpit alone is concerning. A long jump range and better manoeuvrability on atmospheric planets isn't going to cut it, as manageability means nothing if you can't see where you're aiming to land 😅
I completely agree that the Anaconda is not the benchmark, and hearing that the thinking was this way saddened me quite a lot. Jump Range is probably the least important consideration if you're going to do an exploration trip.
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About the cockipt view - I wrote about it above, but if you are talking about comparision. They just siad about jump range similar to 'explorerconda'. So I think like 80-90 Ly, becasue with SCO you can easly do anaconda fitted for exploration with 85 Ly jumprange.

Weps said:
Surprised no one is talking more about this (shamelessly ripped from Pit's video):

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Fdev said about folding wings. So I think this is it.
 

DjVortex

DjVortex
Ozric said:
Talking about what exactly? They said on stream that it's quite close in design to the Mamba and it has the Mamba cockpit.
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About the fact that if we assume it has the same cockpit as the Mamba, then the ship would be too big for a medium landing pad. The wings are too large, as seen in the picture.
 

BDelacroix

BDelacroix
Alaska Sædelære said:
This comes from "andale!" in Spanish. My immediate association was with the city of the same name in Myanmar and my first thought was wtX how did they come up with this for a spaceship? I guess it's just supposed to sound somehow beautiful, knowing that the masses don't care much about geography.
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Its a snake. The Mandalay spitting cobra. So fits the original model of naming ships after snakes.
 

Ozric

Volunteer Moderator
Ozric
So theory crafting elsewhere and I noticed something that stood out.

Zac said it's been designed for flying in atmospheres, but there's currently no difference between tenuous and non atmospheric planets.
So...

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Flaps?

Slightly thicker atmospheres on the way..?
 

CMDR Charybdis

CMDR Charybdis
PiLhEaD said:
I'm not convinced by its looks.

It looks very unspaceshippy (it's a real term!) and too much like a flying bird from the OP image, and yet from the underside it's much more a collection of hard-edge boxes, so overall I'm not yet feeling that it's coherent. Compare it with the Eagle.
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I must admit that I'm really liking the aesthetic of the ship from all angles, with the one exception of that rather large and angular underbelly.

Smoother edges, perhaps the underside being a bit broader and 2/3 the height, and it would pretty much capture the synthesis of graceful, atmospheric capable, and practical all at the same time.

Beauty is always in the eye of the beholder of course ;)
 

Shurimal

Shurimal
DMaster said:
At the actual stage it seems clearly to be the 2 seated mamba cockpit.
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Yup. From the releases of PII and T8 the trend seems to be that the first reveal images picture pretty much what we will get at the release. No major changes in shape and form; the cockpits of PII and T8 are exactly as shown in first WIP sneak peeks🙂
 

PiLhEaD

PiLhEaD
uncle bulgaria said:
...I really hope the as yet unannounced new feature is atmospheric landings - especially ELWs but that might be pushing it.
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Very yes please to both of these, and atmospheric landings have been on my mind since they said a 'new feature'....

Is it to be 'Expansion III - A New Hope'....

...squee....
 
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