DLC18 discussion and predictions

Annie_konik

Annie_konik
I'm quite hyped to see the tree kangaroo, the Markhor and sifaka on this list. The first two are among my favs. Sifaka is quite nice addition on its own. But I would find it super disappointing if SA gets nothing again 😌

Maybe we would still get some SA animals that don't require new dictionary words like the spectacled bear, bush dog or spider monkey?
 

jcp011c

jcp011c
Narwhaler said:
I think the sifaka is good given the uniqueness of its motion, but I also hope we get at least one primate from South America... not a single species confirmed thus far is from there and the last pack not having a single south american species would feel horrible. I have faith frontier will at least add the howler monkey/marmoset and the coati. Rhea and spectacled bear would be welcome additions too (maybe the bear could be the anniversary animal instead).

btw how many species do you think the pack will have? Given we already have basically 8 habitat species confirmed this means it is not following the format of an animal pack, so I feel it might have either the amount of 2 animal packs (14 habitat species) or maybe a little less (12 habitat species or so). What do you guys think?
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Yeah that's the only reason I think that if the dictionary words are true, we'll be getting a pack after this next one. This might change after the pack comes out, but at this point I cannot believe that they would totally ignore South America in the last pack. I mean even getting 2-3 species would counter that and make me feel that that's it, but none? I just can't see it.

What if South/Central/Latin America is next, and the words are being kept out of the dictionary, and then some of the words found in the dictionary are actually the final pack?

ETA: looks like the 8th of October is a safe bet, and non-logically, of course it would be since I'm on vacation the whole week before that when I'd have plenty of time to play. o-O Naturally. Of course, then I could at least work on getting my zoos ready for the new animals.
 

RightWhale

RightWhale
Marvinb said:
Hate to bring it to you but hamadryas and goodfellow in the dictionary suggest otherwise
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Lord, I have seen what you have done to others (@Swiftie_Midnights_ and the porcupine)…….
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Fallax

Fallax
My local zoo, Chester Zoo, has Coquerel's Sifaka. They have bred them but so far haven't been too successful in raising them but then again the European breeding program only began a few years ago. I've seen Crowned Sifaka too at Cotswold Wildlife Park, they've had those for a good while.
 

NachoB

NachoB
Fallax said:
My local zoo, Chester Zoo, has Coquerel's Sifaka. They have bred them but so far haven't been too successful in raising them but then again the European breeding program only began a few years ago. I've seen Crowned Sifaka too at Cotswold Wildlife Park, they've had those for a good while.
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If Chester zoo has them that's one more reason why is very likely that we are getting them.
 

RightWhale

RightWhale
Fallax said:
My local zoo, Chester Zoo, has Coquerel's Sifaka. They have bred them but so far haven't been too successful in raising them but then again the European breeding program only began a few years ago. I've seen Crowned Sifaka too at Cotswold Wildlife Park, they've had those for a good while.
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Markiz said:
Chester also has Spider Monekys

Just sayin'
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NachoB said:
And spec bears. Don't remember if they have coatis. I don't think they have rheas and maras.
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It also has Caribbean flamingos, Humboldt penguins, grey crowned cranes, and scarlet ibis. Also not listed on the website is apparently the zoo has bred endangered white wing ducks.
 

jcp011c

jcp011c
Markiz said:
Yeah Spec Bear is still an option

Park they worked with more than once, Shepret, has both Coatis and Maras if I remember correctly
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Honestly if the whole dictionary word lineup is true and the next pack the Spectacled Bear is a possible inclusion in the pack still, considering both words are used for other animals already. Spider Monkey as well depending on the exact species.

Hmmmm, let's see:

Brown Spider Monkey
Spectacled Bear
Brazilian Porcupine
Giant Armadillo
American Flamingo

what other Latin American animals could we come up with that could be included just based on words already used?
 

Markiz

Markiz
jcp011c said:
Honestly if the whole dictionary word lineup is true and the next pack the Spectacled Bear is a possible inclusion in the pack still, considering both words are used for other animals already. Spider Monkey as well depending on the exact species.

Hmmmm, let's see:

Brown Spider Monkey
Spectacled Bear
Brazilian Porcupine
Giant Armadillo
American Flamingo

what other Latin American animals could we come up with that could be included just based on words already used?
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Thylaco said:
The fact we've got more than 7 habitat candidates, with no obvious Americans is a bit of a red flag.

There's quite a few highly requested ones that are constructible

Here's the list of constructible species using the dictionary, in order from the 2024 meta-wishlist (2 supporters or above, even mildly suspicious terms are highlighted):
  • Secretary bird
  • Ornate/Mexican Spider Monkey
  • Goodfellow's Tree Kangaroo
  • Spectacled Bear
  • Markhor
  • African/Grey Crowned Crane
  • Hamadryas Baboon
  • American Black Bear
  • Bush Dog
  • Honey Badger
  • Sea Otter
  • African Spurred Tortoise
  • American Flamingo
  • Giraffe Gazelle (primarily known as Gerenuk)
  • Southern Elephant Seal
  • Black Swan
  • Japanese/Chinese Raccoon Dog
  • Nile Crocodile
  • North American Porcupine
  • Mountain Goat
  • Olive Baboon
  • Chinese/Japanese Giant Salamander
  • Leopard Seal
  • Brazilian Porcupine
  • Brazilian Tapir
  • North American River Otter
  • North American Wood Duck
  • African Civet
  • African Dwarf Goat
  • Axis Deer
  • Black/Sulawesi Crested Macaque
  • Prairie Dog Hunter (for American Polecat, Pole & Cat would be expected to be one word)
  • Chinese Alligator
  • Crocodile Monitor
  • Sumatran Rhinoceros
  • Sumatran Tiger
  • African Leopard
  • South American River Turtle
  • Asian Golden Cat
  • Grey Fox
  • Green Sea Turtle
  • Rhinoceros Iguana
  • Southern Screamer
  • Javan Rhinoceros
  • Marine Iguana
  • Red Wolf
  • African Dwarf Crocodile
  • African Forest Elephant
  • Black Caiman
  • Black-necked Swan
  • Brown Fur Seal
  • Eastern Grey Kangaroo
  • Eurasian Brown Bear
  • Eurasian Otter
  • European Hedgehog
  • Giant Armadillo
  • Impala

Species that are close to constructible (a few older in-game species are similarly close to constructible, being the Burrowing Cockroach, Red-Ruffed Lemur, Clouded Leopard and Goliath Birdeater, but generally unique terms are given):
  • Black Howler Monkey (Howler is not a term, but Howl is)
  • Short-Beaked Echidna (Beaked is not a term, but Beak is)
  • Shoebill (Shoe & Bill would be expected as one word)
  • Southern Ground Hornbill (Horn & Bill would be expected as one word)
  • Greater Roadrunner (Road & Runner would be expected to be a single word, and only Great exists, not Greater)
  • Victoria Crowned Pigeon (Victoria is not a term, but Victorian is)
  • Bighorn sheep (Big & Horn would be expected to be a single word)
  • Burrowing Owl (Burrowing is not a term, but Burrow is)
  • Bat-eared Fox (Eared is not a term, but Ear is)
  • Fishing Cat (Fishing is not a term, but Fish is)
  • Lion-tailed Macaque (Tailed is not a term, but Tail is)
  • Ringtail (Ring & Tail would be expected as one word)
  • White-faced Whistling Duck (Faced & Whistling aren't terms, but Face and Whistle are)
  • Ethiopian wolf (Ethiopian is not a term, but Ethiopia is)
  • White-tailed Deer (Tailed is not a term, but Tail is)
  • Yellow-footed Rock Wallaby (Footed is not a term, but Foot is)
  • Arabian Oryx (Arabian is not a term, Arabia is)
  • Bobcat (Bob & Cat would be expected to be a single word)
  • Red Howler Monkey (Howler is not a term, but Howl is)
  • Tufted Deer (Tufted is not a term, but Tuft is)
  • Asiatic Lion (Asiatic is not a term, but Asian is)
  • Eastern Long-beaked Echidna (Beaked is not a term, but Beak is)
  • Red-footed Tortoise (Footed is not a term, but Foot is)
  • Sandhill Crane (Sand & Hill would be expected to be one word)
  • Vulturine Guineafowl (Guinea & fowl would be expected to be one word, Vulturine is not a term, but Vulture is)
  • West African Slender-snouted Crocodile (Snouted is not a term, but Snout is)
  • Western Long-beaked Echidna (Beaked is not a term, but Beak is)

Species with just a person's name missing (Cuvier and Dall are the only DLC examples of not being there, and are pretty old):
  • Pallas's Cat
  • Kirk's Dik-dik
  • Matschie's Tree Kangaroo
  • Coquerel's Sifaka
  • Pere David's Deer
  • Grevy's Zebra
  • De Brazza's Monkey
  • Francois' Leaf Monkey
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Markiz

Markiz
Marvinb said:
If we imagine here for a second that the pack could be alot bigger and have another 5 animals in stock for SA, just going by the dictionary the potential animals seem really lackluster to me. Like monkey aside the main animals i want from SA are coati, mara and ibis/spoonbill noone of which are in there
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Well it should be kept in mind that of all new words, we knew about some for quite some time, while some arrived just few days ago. It can be entirely possible that there are animals in new pack that just haven't been put km dictionary yet.

At the end of the day, we don't know the criteria for putting new words in
 
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