frontier fr said, you guys are debating over hamadrya's and gsnm. So how about both of them!
DLC18 discussion and predictions
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My prediction looks something like this:
- Goodfellow's Tree-Kangaroo
- Hamadryas Baboon
- Markhor
- Muskox
- Pallas's Cat
- Silky Sifaka
- Spectacled Bear
- Lord Howe Stick Insect (exhibit animal)
If this isn't the last DLC, then I'll try to be more positive.
Even if we end up with 4 more recolours of animals we already have, at least we know that 3 of the animals are actually kinda interesting.
Hope the markhor can use the goat mountain enrichment
Even if we end up with 4 more recolours of animals we already have, at least we know that 3 of the animals are actually kinda interesting.
Hope the markhor can use the goat mountain enrichment
Whilst I actually love the Arid pack, there are a few animals from elsewhere that do fit the theme perfectly. Examples such as: Patagonian Mara, greater bilby, desert bighorn, percentile, collared peccary, saiga and Pallas’ cat (the last 3 being species in or coming to the game).
I'm seeing a very similar pattern to earlier this year when barnyard was announced, people were extremely bitter towards the idea of this being the last pack only for weeks to pass by and realise it's not the last pack and gradually accept the pack as a decent addition to the game.
It's looking like this pack is using the Barnyard pack format, 7 habitat animals and 60 pieces. Looks like any exhibit animals trying to join has lost hope.
Whoop! Whoop!
Still sooo happy!
And after sleeping over it, I still can't find any evidence that this will be the final pack. Of course, they never announced the end with their other games, but I thought there might be a obvious hint in the stream. I didn't find it, so I'm slightly optimistic there will be at least one more DLC after this one.
Still sooo happy!And after sleeping over it, I still can't find any evidence that this will be the final pack. Of course, they never announced the end with their other games, but I thought there might be a obvious hint in the stream. I didn't find it, so I'm slightly optimistic there will be at least one more DLC after this one.
I love this pack man, its all I ever wanted. All I need is a GSNM, Domestic Yak and this is my #1 favorite pack of all time.
Also for those asking "2 monkeys is unlikely" but like man GSNM is right there. Standing there, and while I think its somewhat unlikely 6 months should get us atleast 2 primates and a bird.
There were tons of "Arid" animal species. For insteance a lot of North american (desert big horned sheep, road runner, coyote, bobcat, burrowing owl), South american animals (patagonian mara, rhea, guanaco) and australia (bilby, Perentie, short beaked echidna).
You are mixing two complaints we had about the pack: one was that it wasn't a worldwide biome pack like Grasslands and Wetlands were, and a separete complaint was that even if they wanted to make an all african / middle Eastern pack at least it could have had some variety, and that's were hamadryas baboon, secretary bird (not really a fit imo) and spurred tortoise came up as suggestion for a more varied roster. There was also the fact that Arid was at the time the perfect pack for the baboon and a cobra/chameleon that were very requested and we got none haha
The pack itself was clearly meat to be an african / middle Eastern pack.
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This pack is going to be a Full Asian Pack then, its literally themed around a Tibetan High Ground Pack, looking like we are getting GSNM, Yak and Himalayan Monal is super high right now.
Basically this is another Arid Situation, where the theme is about Highlands and the name is the Highlands pack, but its fully about the entire Asian Continent
Though, this can result in a good pack. A pack like this was very needed to represent the Chinese Player base. Just need a GSNM and this will be looking amazing.
Its also looking to be very themed around the Himalayan Mountains with only some animals from outside himalayan mountains.
Though, this can result in a good pack. A pack like this was very needed to represent the Chinese Player base. Just need a GSNM and this will be looking amazing.
Its also looking to be very themed around the Himalayan Mountains with only some animals from outside himalayan mountains.
I'm really feeling that our last four are the following:
Honestly I'd be really happy with this lineup and I think it could be the best since Grasslands.
- Spectacled Bear (This is such a shoe-in its crazy, fits perfectly with the theme, bears are an instant hit, and that much awaited Latin American representation - it checks every box)
- Goodfellow's Tree-Kangaroo (Extremely popular and supported by the leaks, would add some tropical variation into the pack)
- Yak (We are almost certainly going to get another ungulate and apart from goats this is by far the most iconic mountain ungulate and it would be quite easy to make from the various bovines we already have)
- Himalayan Monal (Frontier has been pretty good with the birds recently, all three of the last packs have had at least one and here is a relatively popular mountain species that wouldn't be too difficult to adapt from the peafowl. In fairness this could also be another pheasant or something similar, either way I'm feeling we will get a fowl finally)
Honestly I'd be really happy with this lineup and I think it could be the best since Grasslands.
This does look like a really good pack that I would love, but I don't know mate. This upcoming pack could be Arid 2.0 but instead gives us actual diverse animals instead of a porcupine, a feline with ungulates.
I'm feeling like this is an "Asian Animal pack"
I mean it could but we don't really have much reason to believe that. I will be really surprised if we don't get the spectacled bear and the dictionary leak supports the tree-kangaroo which does happen to fit quite well into this pack.
Also its funny how I said the other day the only three animals I thought the leak actually strongly supported was the baboon, markhor and tree-kangaroo... and well we got two out of three with none of the other leaked animals in sight... And the one that happens to fit into this pack the most is the roo.
I've been thinking about the dictionary and yesterday's news and the different options we could have:
Option A: Highlands animal pack
With the baboon, Markhor, Pallas's cat and tree kangaroo. That would leave out the Echidna, Secretary, Spurred tortoise, dikdik and Sifaka (all of these are found in shrublands, even the Sifaka although its main habitat are forests).
Option B: Old world animal pack
With the baboon, markhor, Pallas's cat, secretary, spurred tortoise, dikdik and Sifaka. That would leave out the echidna and tree kangaroo.
Option C: Zookeeper's collection animal pack
This is hard to imagine. There are 3 confirmed animals, but 6 candidates for 4 slots. And the lack of American species makes this less likely. The only way would be that this pack is a bigger one.
So my conclusion is that either we are getting at least 2 more DLCs or that the dictionary animals were put there to mess with us or because they were discharged options from old DLCs.
Option A: Highlands animal pack
With the baboon, Markhor, Pallas's cat and tree kangaroo. That would leave out the Echidna, Secretary, Spurred tortoise, dikdik and Sifaka (all of these are found in shrublands, even the Sifaka although its main habitat are forests).
Option B: Old world animal pack
With the baboon, markhor, Pallas's cat, secretary, spurred tortoise, dikdik and Sifaka. That would leave out the echidna and tree kangaroo.
Option C: Zookeeper's collection animal pack
This is hard to imagine. There are 3 confirmed animals, but 6 candidates for 4 slots. And the lack of American species makes this less likely. The only way would be that this pack is a bigger one.
So my conclusion is that either we are getting at least 2 more DLCs or that the dictionary animals were put there to mess with us or because they were discharged options from old DLCs.
This would be a great pack, although I am convinced of corroboree or lake Titicaca frogs as a mountains exhibit
I think the addition of the Tree Kangaroo is very low, they probably are holding it back for the next pack after this so we have something that we want to buy.I mean it could but we don't really have much reason to believe that. I will be really surprised if we don't get the spectacled bear and the dictionary leak supports the tree-kangaroo which does happen to fit quite well into this pack.
Also its funny how I said the other day the only three animals I thought the leak actually strongly supported was the baboon, markhor and tree-kangaroo... and well we got two out of three with none of the other leaked animals in sight... And the one that happens to fit into this pack the most is the roo.
Option D: Highlands Animal Pack [Arid Edition 2.0]
They go full Arid and make the entire pack centered about Asia with Palla's Cat, Himalayan Monal, Markhor, Domestic Yak, Markhor, GSNM, Hamadrya's Baboon and 60 Tibetan scenery pieces.
Regardless of my opinions on more pack after this one, it's almost impossible for us to know how profitable Planet Zoo really is because we're looking at the cumulative numbers.
We have no information on sales of individual DLCs. At most, we have the active users from Steam, but that's not a one to one ratio to how much a DLC sold. Especially given that many DLCs come with a period in which the rest of the DLCs are on sale so the active users could also very much come from that.
Because of that, we can't even objectively say that there are lesser DLCs. Arid and Barnyard might have been controversial on social media and the forums here; but we have no real objective data we can base on that our assumptions are correct when it comes to sales. We might just be in our own bubble here. (Not saying I really think Arid was a massive hit, but I also can't really back it up).
Same goes with the recent growth in sales in what we saw in the financial documents. It looks like the same kind of jump we saw when Planet Coaster's Console release, so we again have no real way to doublecheck if that growth is sustainable.
We're looking from the outside to the tip of the iceberg, there's too much that's unknown to make any meaningful assumptions really. I'm not saying that Planet Zoo as a brand isn't profitable, that is something we can know for sure from the financial documents, but like any conclusions on how sustainable that profit is, that's at the end of the day completely impossible for us to know without more insights.
Honestly, we might be holding on way too much to the idea of a "Zookeeper's collection" pack than we should. Yes, JWE2 got one, but that's at the end of the day one single point of reference.
When that pack was released, we had a bigger chance to know that if Planet Zoo would release a similar pack, that it was the end of support. But that was realistically the only real conclusion we could draw from that. We can't draw the conclusion that if it's not a pack like that that it isn't the last one, we can't even draw the conclusion that Planet zoo will for sure receive a pack like that.
It's like the famous math problems that if a test is 95% accurate that we might instinctively think that it means that there's a 5% chance that it's not accurate; but in reality that's not how it works at all.
(TLDR I love math but absolutely detest probability calculus, it is so counter-intuitive lol)
Please can we keep in mind that the Hamadryas baboon is primarily an African animal? Its range dips into Yemen but if you were asked where it's from, broadly speaking it's from Africa. This is not an Asian pack.