The Quest To Find Raxxla

Jorki Rasalas

Jorki Rasalas
athulin said:
Before you do so, take a look at the EULA, in particular section 4 where it says "4.5 You may not collect or harvest any information or data from the Game, the Online Features or our systems, ...".

Even mention of the technical possibility is tainted by heresy.
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I was going to raise this point but you got there first. In the last we had at least one third party tool that used OCR screen scraping to get planetary coordinates and assist the player in navigating srv on a surface. It was banned by FD as breaking the EULA, then they gave us the players journal, so if a system description isnt in the journal we're not allowed electronic access. Pity, because I have wondered in the past if some clues weren't buried in those descriptions, at least for systems around the bubble. Though manynof them appear to be fluff
 
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Rochester

Rochester
The Metaphoric structure of Paradise Lost

An interesting read, especially concerning Fortuna, an allusion which has stayed with me for some time,

In game contextually, the system Fortuna may be intentionally placed as one of the heavenly muses (set among the Greek Fates and Norse Norns) such a positioning is key for Paradise Lost as Milton like Dante was reliant on a muse as directional aid, however in game this is not so direct.

Remember that Fortuna in game is very close to the Thetis signal, she aligned with my ‘mountains’ theory and of course is the namesake for the Trinkets, which were linked to the removed missions. Is she the Astrophel?

Project MUSE - The Metaphoric Structure of Paradise Lost

muse.jhu.edu muse.jhu.edu
 
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Jorki Rasalas

Jorki Rasalas
Ian Doncaster said:
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In the sense of "I think Raxxla is here" / "Well, I know that's not where I found it", sure.

In the sense of "I think this station name is a clue to Raxxla" / "No, sorry, that was a player competition winner", you can miss that some of your theory's components are wrong.
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Yes, both of those are valid..
But I could imagine FD burying Raxxla (or a gateway to it, or a clue to either) in something like a player-named entity,
just for the sheer humour value (to them)! 😉

So I still hold that nothing is totally refutable.

You didn't find Raxxla? but you came so close we even let you name the container it was in! Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
😱
 

Neestar

Neestar
Jorki Rasalas said:
Any clues there may be must be gleaned from the game. This thread is only a collection of our interpretations, musings, hypotheses, a few examples of mental breakdowns, and quite a few trolls. We have no idea where (or what) Raxxla is, so it can contain no clues!
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i dunno... i feel like that entire page 15 i mentioned & linked earlier at least gave me a clue or 2 ( more than i had before, that's for sure ) .
Jorki Rasalas said:
We have briefly discussed in the past whether people would want to have the secret of Raxxla disclosed (if it is ever found by a Questor, and I haven't (yet)). The consensus seemed to be no they wouldn't but would like to see a certificate of some form from FD that it had been found. I suspect any discoverer of Raxxla might become the target of numerous griefers thenceforth, so it might be kept quiet.

Only FD know!!
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There ain't no secrets anymore. Internet saw to that.
Personally, i find it very very VERY hard to believe a) some player found it but didn't tell anyone ... or b) some player found/finds it , but FDev doesn't make a public announcement or spectacle?!?! ( not even to further promote content/storylines, or heck just to celebrate?!?! pfft )
 

selbie

selbie
Rochester said:
The Metaphoric structure of Paradise Lost

An interesting read, especially concerning Fortuna, an allusion which has stayed with me for some time,

In game contextually, the system Fortuna may be intentionally placed as one of the heavenly muses (set among the Greek Fates and Norse Norns) such a positioning is key for Paradise Lost as Milton like Dante was reliant on a muse as directional aid, however in game this is not so direct.

Remember that Fortuna in game is very close to the Thetis signal, she aligned with my ‘mountains’ theory and of course is the namesake for the Trinkets, which were linked to the removed missions. Is she the Astrophel?

Project MUSE - The Metaphoric Structure of Paradise Lost

muse.jhu.edu muse.jhu.edu
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Excellent read, and the author's discussion on the aspect of time is an interesting one. The way she talks about space becoming time in P.Lost and Milton's framing of movement does make me wonder if there are any relativistic elements to the mystery.
Prof. Nicolson mentions how, from the perspective of the Empyrean/God, time is viewed like a place - and that made me think of the Station Gardens. All of time and space is figuratively 'encapsulated' in one garden space and maybe the design's symbolism is showing a progression into time or 'peering into' the cosmos at various levels?

the trouble lies in the depiction of heaven as place. Lying outside of space, it cannot be captured in any metaphors of substance. The jasper before the throne is now a “bright / Pavement” (III, 362-3); now it “flows” around Jacob’s Ladder (III, 518-9); in another moment it is even indeterminate whether “a bright Sea flow’d / Of Jasper, or of liquid Pearle” (III, 518-9)
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I recall a while back some discussion around the directions described as to where Satan fell among other locations and it has struck me now - Milton is effectively dealing with a mathematical equivalent of Infinite as a unit among many Infinites. So to attempt to locate the cardinal directions of "east" or "west" when facing the totality of the infinite would be impossible - unless we juxtapose it against another infinite void such as Chaos and the dominion of Hell diametrically opposite to the Empyrean. Furthermore if we bring time into the equation maybe North and South could therefore be situated easier. If the Fall occurred from the North, would that suggest they were cast out from "past" transgressions or were they punished for all "future" eternity?

Something about Braben's station signal clue has me thinking about time as well...
 

mach10

M
Neestar said:
For some reason, you didn't quote my post but you referenced my exact quoted words? Anyways, for the record, when i said "PROBABLY a futile search" before, i was meaning my own personal search thru this entire forum thread. ( trying to find clues within 10 years worth of PRIOR posts , from players----or Devs---long gone/forgotten )
i certainly don't think The Search for RAXXLA is "futile" . Someone soon has to find something! Right?

You've been saying that for months/years now ( re: post-history ) , yet you never seem to include any screenshots nor details. How come?
Wouldn't things ( odds ) go better if searched as a collective group effort?
The ultimate discovery "credit" , as it were, is still gonna be dispersed amongst all 2000 pages of this thread + all 10 years worth of Elite Dangerous search pilots anyway, no?

Ever since i had my very 1st encounter back in November--> https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threa...-target-systems.612125/page-327#post-10491608 with that ^ particular map room , i've been wondering if perhaps it was some small ( or big? ) piece to the RAXXLA puzzle.... 💫
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I let me clear and to the point: I don't owe you anything.
 

Neestar

Neestar
mach10 said:
I let me clear and to the point: I don't owe you anything.
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lol it's not about me CMDR. It's about basic respect for the community and those who paved the way before YOU.
But no worries. Your typical evasive "reply" and predictably defensive/aggressive tone says it all.
All questions will be answered eventually anyway. ;)
 

Jorki Rasalas

Jorki Rasalas
Formidine Rift could be interesting...I still think there's another alien/AI threat locked in Bovomit sector

but I thought colonisation is limited to a few tens of ly??
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but might open a brandy distillery somewhere....😋
 
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Comandante

Comandante
athulin said:
Before you do so, take a look at the EULA, in particular section 4 where it says "4.5 You may not collect or harvest any information or data from the Game, the Online Features or our systems, ...".

Even mention of the technical possibility is tainted by heresy.
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Yes I've seen the EULA.

You have a number of choices:

  1. Write down the text; little bit laborious. But split between many searchers/researches would lighten the burden;
  2. Reach out to FD to determine if that would be a violation of the EULA just to confirm - it doesn't hurt to be polite and ask the right questions. If they're OK go ahead with OCR;
  3. Keep it private and don't tell anyone. Naughty and I wouldn't do it but you can't stop others if they don't know you're doing it; and finally
  4. Ask for the details to be included in the logs.
There's probably some other options too.

For all intents and purposes the entire codex repeated on Inara could have been done by using OCR. Probably wasn't but who would know?

Anyway, OCR or not, I don't see any other options right now - after 10 years - and I think it would be worth it if only to rule it out.

Start a new thread, OP to update post #1 when text is confirmed to be non-player based, and everyone else post in with their finds. Organise finds alphabetically by system name, then add planet descriptions if the planets have descriptions too. The more the merrier. I'd offer to start a thread but haven't played for over 3 years and have no plans in the short term for coming back (more time constraints than anything else).

Where's there's a will, there's a way. I see no other ways at present.
 

Comandante

Comandante
Actually, IIRC there's an audio feature whereby you could listen to some kind of information (Galnet/codex?)

Was/is this available for system/planetary descriptions? I am guessing not but do not remember.
 

Neestar

Neestar
Alexium67 said:
Colonization will give us many Raxxlas. If the rename function will be allowed.
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No mention of "renaming" here--> https://www.elitedangerous.com/news/system-colonisation-beta-details
i'll be shocked if FDev allows for "RAXXLA" ( or any important lore/codex names ) to just be sprinkled about the galaxy willy-nilly by every colonizer & troll. Then again, i still can't believe their own game filter code allows for player Fleet Carriers to use that word/name already.

Guess we'll find out tomorrow (about renaming colonised SYSTEMS) with patch-notes released.
 
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SHEA PARDH

SHEA PARDH
I've been going over Warren's interpretation of Paradise Lost universe, and this is probably not changing much in terms of overall quest, but one thing stood out for me so far.

On page 44 he starts talking about the "bridge" (aka causeway) from Hell to Heaven.

Masson does not picture it but tells us how it may be inserted in his diagram. He says: "The bridge not only followed the track which Satan had taken across Chaos, but it terminated, in adamantine fastenings, exactly at the spot ('the selfsame place') on the bare outside shell or Primum Mobile of the Cosmos where Satan had alighted after his toilsome flight; i. e. on its upper boss, near the orifice where the Cosmos was suspended from the Empyrean. If the reader, then, will take the diagram in the Introduction, and draw with pen or pencil a curved line, from the middle of what is there the arched roof of Hell, upwards on the left hand into the angle made by the equatorial line and the circumference of the little circle representing the Cosmos, that line will mark the track of the bridge built by Sin and Death.
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So, I think I need to adjust a couple things. Since Satan is pictured in PMD2009 48, I suspect THAT is the Gate to Hell (after all, Barnard's Loop looks very much like a doorway to Hell would. Hell itself is a bottomless abyss.

The other thing that stands out is that there is a "golden ladder" going through Chaos to Heaven Gate. In order to find Heaven Gate properly, we need to find the "golden ladder" (aka golden stair, mystic stair, etc.)

BTW, this whole description also paints an alternative interpretation: The causeway is one of the spiral arms of Milky Way, and the mystic stair is some trail of stars going up from the center, and Heaven Gate is hanging above the middle. With one small caveat that the bubble and things around it, including Barnard's Loop are not actually in one of the major spiral arms. If we go beyond it, we get into Elysian Shore and that arm takes us to Empyrean Straits.
 
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Comandante

Comandante
RyloTerrik said:
I believe mach actually mentioned this a while back as well.
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I've mentioned it previously too but wouldn't be surprised if @Macros Black got there first!

I really wish I had time otherwise I'd have kicked off a thread and been a no-friend-kid and started it myself, maybe dragging a few unfortunates in on the trail.

Thing is, this '10 year' complete absence and lack of any progress despite the valiant, noble and ultimate-stamina brain-burning ideas these folk have put in has led to nothing. Not because they're no good. We've just we got nothing to go on. The 'clues' we have, however a-tiny-bit-obvious that they are, are about as populated as the Milky Way if you remove all the nebulae, systems and dust.

So I guess I am just clutching at straws wishing I was retired so I could devote my week to this game!
 

SHEA PARDH

SHEA PARDH
Following on my latest musings, I think NGC 7822 is the mystic stair - that's why the stars are set up the way they are. And it points to "NGC 40 STAR" - yes, that's the system name. That also is a well treaded place (2 ships in last 7 days on EDSM). I guess that's just part of the journey.
 

Neestar

Neestar
RyloTerrik said:
I believe mach actually mentioned this a while back as well.
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Correct he sure did--> https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/the-quest-to-find-raxxla.168253/page-1843#post-10543919

Side-note: i've been legitimately critical/skeptical ( aka "hostile" lol whatever forums ) of CMDR @mach10 , simply because of his snarky condescending & vague ( selfishly cryptic in public thread for the sake of just being cryptic ) type POSTS , but i must check myself here and offer an apology for my previously incorrect/inaccurate question/word choice about him "never" posting any documentation to support his numerous boasts. He actually did indeed show 2 ss's here--> https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/the-quest-to-find-raxxla.168253/page-1853#post-10547589

My mistake on that one. Accept it or don't. Couldn't care less cuz uhh it's a video game. :geek: But i def. care about accuracy & facts; especially in this thread of all threads.

BTW , speaking of "descriptions" ... Whenever i use the FSS ( so addictive! ) , i always wait for the resource %'s to complete on upper right corner of FSS screen for planetary descriptions listing box to see if maybe certain resource(s) might signify greater chance of RAXXLA ( sorta like Ammonia based = Thargoids? ) .
But the problem is: Okay so let's all start inspecting planetary ( or 'bodies' ) descriptions, cool. But umm, looking for what exactly? Anomolies?

Like, we're all just still flying blind here , except for rose-Codex glasses, no?
 
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