For Carnivorans, much higher than it should be IMO. For monkeys, lower than it should be.
DLC 19 Speculation
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Honestly I would say the odds of one cat, dog, or bear is pretty high. Now let’s assume we finally get a visit back to the Americas, we could get:
- American black bear
- Ocelot
- Bobcat
- Coyote
- Bush dog
- Grey fox
Now the monkey question is a bit tougher, it’s kind of like the bird one. It’s not unusual to think we could get at least one, even though some community members would want more than one in a pack. Zookeeper did give us two primates, however Frontier would usually give only one primate a year, if even that. However South America has been long requested, so I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if we got a monkey. If we don’t get a South America pack I think it’s possible we could get an old world monkey, though I find those odds to be a bit lower since we got the baboon.
So I think the odds of getting at least one member of Carnivora would be around 70-80% and if it’s like ZooKeeper we may even get two. For monkeys I think the odds are lower, at max a 50% flip of the coin. It really depends on if we get a South America/ arboreal pack.
Cat~0.50
Monkey~0.40
Bear~0.25
Dog~0.10
- I give it a 50/50 cats are going to show up... Of all the themes I think of a cat is still somehow highly requested, aside from the likes of Polar, Coastal, or Aviary... I would say its almost guaranteed a cat will show up but I've been wrong so many times I'm just leaving it at 50%.
- Monkeys are more likely than the community would suspect IMO. Frontier seems to almost like primates now and we have been asking for them for a long time! Still, I think its less likely than a cat for some reason.
- Bear depends entirely on the theme, IMO. If its anything to do with temperate or New World, there's the ABB who will take a slot!
- Dogs I hope for (sorry not sorry) so to keep my expectation in check I'm saying very low probability. That, and we don't need a new dog. I hope for one though. Aside from like Coyote or Corsac Fox.
IF its Neotropics themed I'd love to see: ocelot AND bush dog. Coati though is almost a given... Could you imagine three carnivores in one pack this late in the game. People would be upset... So, I think it will be just Coati and Ocelot.
Depends on the theming. If it is Americas pack i would say bear has 90% chances, cat 75% chances, dog 25% (bush dog) and monkeys (just 1) like 75% chance (though it should be 100%). But i think it will be a pack dominated by carnivores instead of ungulates: for instance, ABB + ocelot + coati.
Probabilities for monkey appearing HAVE TO BE high right now. Right?
By all means the support should have ended with Zookeeper pack, they wouldn't "return" if they didn't think they can sell a theme or two still. Themes that convinced some higher ups to keep things going. And those themes are few.
You don't make pack with "we're done" theme, and then come back to sell "Large mammals of continental Asia scenery pack".
I, of course, know how Frontier has designed packs in the past, but I don't expect last pack(s) to be "business as usual". Otherwise they could've called it after Zookeeper. Or even after Eurasia for that matter.
Let me put it this way: I strongly believe, that if we don't get monkey(s) in our last DLC(s) it's because we're getting (flying) birds and/or aquatic animals.
By all means the support should have ended with Zookeeper pack, they wouldn't "return" if they didn't think they can sell a theme or two still. Themes that convinced some higher ups to keep things going. And those themes are few.
You don't make pack with "we're done" theme, and then come back to sell "Large mammals of continental Asia scenery pack".
I, of course, know how Frontier has designed packs in the past, but I don't expect last pack(s) to be "business as usual". Otherwise they could've called it after Zookeeper. Or even after Eurasia for that matter.
Let me put it this way: I strongly believe, that if we don't get monkey(s) in our last DLC(s) it's because we're getting (flying) birds and/or aquatic animals.
Call me crazy but im going to say that a monkey has the highest likelyhood.
If they dont do a new world monkey at this point i dont know anymore, like there are 3 of the darn things in the top 10 at this point (in addition do another african one).
There is 100% going to be atleast one carnivoran tho probably more, because lets be real there always is. So a carnivoran has the higher likelyhood than monkeys, but monkeys have the higher likelyhood than cats, dogs and bears indiviuallly. For the love of everything i hope so
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And yet somehow we still all struggled with deciphering it last time lol
I remember thinking it was a Zookeeper pack because of the keepers in the background and people telling me I was wrong!
Which was fun imo. If it was really easy and straightfoward it would be kinda lame eh?
So IF they are gonna do it again i hope the art sends mixed messages again lol
I remember good chunk of community (maybe not majority, but still good chunk) correctly combined Dictionary words with scenery in the art and with Zookeeper to guess the theme.
I guess the specific choice of animal silhouettes was the divisive factor
What is everyone's dream Neotropics Animal Pack?
I'd like:
I'd like:
- Ocelot
- Bush Dog
- Patagonian Mara
- Black Howler Monkey
- Roseate Spoonbill
- Geoffroy's Spider Monkey
- White-nosed Coati
Probably something like
-Coati
-Mara
-Howler
-Ibis
-Arrau river
-Southern screamer
-Squirrel monkey
- White nosed coati
- Black howler monkey
- Squirrel monkey
- Arrau river turtle
- White faced whistling duck
- Roseate spoonbill
- Scarlet ibis
- Exhibit animals: red belly piranha, and electric eel
1. Black Headed Spider Monkey
2. Common Squirrel Monkey
3. Patagonian Mara
4. Greater Rhea
5. Roseate Spoonbill
6. White Faced Whistling Duck
7. Arrau River Turtle
Those themes are just two with current mechanics: latinamerica and birds.
My dream neotropica animal pack? Here it is
1. Southamerican coati
2. Patagonian mara
3. Greater rhea
4. Black amd gold howler monkey (or spider monkey only if made right)
5. Scarlet ibis or roseatte spoonbill (on a lesser degree the southern screamer but i would still be happy with it)
6. Ocelot (yes sorry i really want it)
7. Southern tamandua or giant armadillo (but i do want another unique xenarthran)
Now my TRUE ideal pack would be 12 animals, to that i would add:
8. Brazilian tapir
9. White face whislting duck or turrent duck or.muscovy duck (a duck)
10. Brown pelican
11. Arrau river turtle
12. Ex: green anaconda
Is really hard to make a selection when we are lacking so much from SA. Special mentions to argentinian tegu, red footed tortoise, seriema, golden lion tamarin, squirrel monkey, guanaco, vicuña, marsh deer and pudu.
That’s an interesting theory, but I’ll also say if packs are selling normally as they are now why stop?
I guess to expand on this further, why add flying birds now 6 years into development? If the DLCs are selling well enough without birds I would be shocked to see Frontier flip the script.
Maybe they want to boost PZ sales due to PC2? Even then regular DLCs sell fine and then you got to take development into cost.
I mean if we get flying birds, or even a good bird variety in the WTE I wouldn’t complain. I just think there is a super low chance of this happening.
I think flying birds are at lower chance than Latin America or non-flying birds. But I wouldn't be surprised if we got handful of flyers as a hint for PZ2 (and for feedback) like JW got Pteranodon