Totally. Plus is such an iconic animal with such an important conservatión value that if we have not got it by now people will be actively asking for ir.
DLC 19 Speculation
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the difference between the ratites and rhinos is that all ratites has something unique going for them, emus lives on arid australia, cassowary on tropical oceania, Kiwi is carrying NZ in it back while ostrich and rhea are the main birds on they continents, while bears have something similar (Though i got say that The abb sounds really mid and i believe the sloth bear was unecessary).
Meanwhile the black rhino doesn't do nothing that the white rhino couldn't.
Agree on (some) of the bears, (especially with how many we have) but my issue with the black rhino is that it's very similar to the white rhino from a niche perspective. It's only major difference is in behavior and how real zoos mix it with far less species than the more docile white rhino. With the exception of the cassowary and emu, (which I'd argue still differ far more than the two African rhinos, mainly in habitat), the ratites all occupy different regions (and are more essential to said regions than two rhinos in the same area IMO) and fill a different role in game.
Don't get me wrong the black rhino isn't a bad pick - hell it's among my favorites of the pack, but I just don't think it adds that much to the game's actual roster in the grand scheme of things when we already had its more common, versatile alternative.
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Fact is even if a pack is years old, the bad decisions in it shaped the game till this day. Yes exclusions might be included at a later point in time, but that doesnt mean every miss becomes a hit. Some animals grow and defy their early bad reputation, for example the spectacle caiman turned out to be a fantastic addition in the long run even if at arrival most people just hit it with "just another croc", but it turned out to be the best general use croc.
Others people just mellow out on, personal example would be the arctic wolf, yeah its a suppar choice but hey i can live with a white wolf that doesnt look like its ported from zoo tycoon 2 like the base game timber wolf
And others were never a hit, prime example would be the himalayan brown bear in the base game or the tamworth pig in the barnyard pack. Those really never should have been in the game and have clear superior alternatives in the EBB and literally any other pig thats even slightly present in zoos, but especally kunekune and vitnamese pot belly are comicical missed opportunitys.
So yeah, just cause things are old it doesnt make some choices less bad
Others people just mellow out on, personal example would be the arctic wolf, yeah its a suppar choice but hey i can live with a white wolf that doesnt look like its ported from zoo tycoon 2 like the base game timber wolf
And others were never a hit, prime example would be the himalayan brown bear in the base game or the tamworth pig in the barnyard pack. Those really never should have been in the game and have clear superior alternatives in the EBB and literally any other pig thats even slightly present in zoos, but especally kunekune and vitnamese pot belly are comicical missed opportunitys.
So yeah, just cause things are old it doesnt make some choices less bad
Do you really consider yourselves animal lovers? It seems like the entire concept of zoos and conservation hasn't quite sunk in.
As someone who really didn't like the rhino, here's my reasoning:
All of the in-game ratites look very distinct in size and appearance, and are from different continents and/or different biomes: Rhea from SA grasslands, Ostrich from the African deserts and savanna, Emu from basically all over Australia, cassowary from the tropical regions of Queensland and Papua New Guinea, and finally the Kiwi (which is the most unique of the bunch) being our only exclusive New Zealand animal and one of only two animals from NZ.
A similar thing can be said about bears: while eight bears is personally a lot, and some of these (notably Formosan, Sun and Sloth) share the same habitat and region, at least they look pretty distinct. The Sun Bear, for example, has short fur, a long tongue, and its trademark yellow chest patch; the Sloth Bear, which lives in a very similar area (with some overlapping even), has long shaggy fur which makes it stand out quite a lot. Formosan Black Bear... Well, it was in the base game, can't do much about it. Then we have the Himalayan Brown Bear (a baffling choice, I know, but at least it's different from the other Asian bears...?), the spectacled bear, which was heavily requested, and the iconic three: the panda, the grizzly and the polar bear, which are kinda essential for a zoo game.
As for the rhinos instead, well. Two rhinos are absolutely fine: one representative for Asia, and one for Africa. But two African rhinos? That's kinda overkill, especially when the two species look so close and are basically from the same habitat. Heck, they even had to make the black rhino darker (even darker than its real-life counterpart) to make it stand out
I mean this in the best way possible, and I don't want to get in an argument over a silly zoo game, but you could always try suggesting something constructive instead of leaving passive-aggressive comments that don't help anybody just because they don't agree with your take on a video game.
This getting added over the EBB still hurts me to this day
I really don't understand this comment.
According to this logic, since the Himalayan Brown Bear is critically endangered, it should be spared from criticism, because "conservation". And yet I've never seen a single soul defending it.
At least the HBB is kind of excused because I didn't have to pay for it, but the black rhino? It's just the same animal I paid for two years before, and arguably looks worse than the old one
I don’t understand the hate for the black rhino. Conservation value, visually different and yet people would rather get an Asian ssp. Same goes for ABB.
I don't think it was the quokka which displaced the tree roo. I would make the bat more responsible.
I would have liked a blackbuck just as much as a saiga, and I would have taken a markhor or musk ox instead of the sloth bear definitely.
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Constructively, education about conservation is essential to understanding the role of zoos and the importance of biodiversity.
The bat was WE. A tree roo at WE would be terrible. Saiga and Sloth Bear don t deserve hatred too. They are two visually unique animals that are really neat to the general public.
I don't get the hate for any species tbh. Yeah some are way better picks than others but at the end of the day I'm happy with whatever we get as long as we still get stuff (the exception is whatever baffling addition the 3 toed sloth over the much more common 2 toed one was which why it was right there but a sloth is a sloth so)
Real life conservation means nothing about how fun they are to build for in game and how good of an addition they are.
Yeah in real life black rhinos are >>>>>>>>> more imortant to be kept then the least concern white rhino, but once one is in the game the other is whatever and the white rhino is more iconic in general as it really is THE rhino.
Real zoos are important for conservation and im very proud of my local aquarium for swapping out all their beautifull pet trade fish for mostly very plain and/or ugly looking fish that need the conservation effort, but that doesnt mean i wouldnt rather have ur basic amazon pet trade aquarium set up for planet zoo instead of some murky indonesian swamp aquaria of tiny see through fish and shrimp
Why so harsh? I know what conservation is about (but then I don't hate on the black rhino so much, but do see why it is seen as the most superfluous animal of the Arid Pack).
I was personally against the idea of a third rhino in general. I didn't hate the black rhino specifically, I just feel like three rhinos are kinda overkill.
I can barely tell the two African species apart anyway
ABB would be cool because at this point we're in too deep with the bears. We have 7/8 species, we need to complete the collection
All sloths are equal!
It was the sloth that the community chose and requested from the random’s list.
If I don't like a particular species, I simply don't use it, rather than complaining every chance I get.
Kind of shows my point, I don't get why a 3rd Rhino is overkill, but 8 Bears is perfectly fine