True. And if you wanted to abuse it that way,.you could since the block feature is necessary..but I'd rather it require the extra steps at minimum.
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Now question is do want these kind of shenanigans on your PP or not? That would happen if you PVP gate it.
Lesser of two evils for powerplay, so yes.
Is it lesser, no need to clear list outside PP?
I'm sorry I don't understand the question
I mean those blocked for PP purposes tend to remain blocked for good.
Yeah just like it is now..and the thing you mentioned of people using open but blocking select targets, is available now too.
@Cheese Helmet : I enjoy the game the way it is. I enjoy PP in a PG, Exploration and Trade. Everyone of those I have to go somewhere in order to do them. Why do you feel that you should not have to also ? You could move to Deciat and do all the ganking and PVP you want or is that crowd to good for you? BTW I have no intention of changing my game play for you or anyone else.
You think PP is perfect and requires no improvement?
@TiberiusDuval I guess you'd need to have sth like a CZ in certain systems and only PvP kills would count.
It's exploitatble with alts perhaps but the block button may not give you an advantage there. Even if you blocked "superior" pilots the instancing may mean you don't see anyone.
Ofc this means that each instance would have to be stable for X amount of CMDRs and then we're back to technical limitations
Edit:- but this makes it a straight up PvP fight - there's no available nuance with adding a cargo or merit delivery requirement, taking away escort missions and a role for non-combat ships
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Well maybe, but prudent design from fdev should skew that, like your ship needs to have cargo racks to transferr certain stuff. Eliminating pure murderboats from equation.
Where is this stated? I've made it clear I want to go to powerplay systems and have all the powerplay possibilities, including fighting other powerplay commanders. But you know that, you're just baiting.
I agree, but the issue is that if there is a cargo delivery element, a bad actor could do as we have said and simply block all opponents, fiddle with ports etc.
Even if we could somehow tag cargo/merits as Open Only, like quite a few Open CGs sometimes you face no opposition at all.
Short term I think only something like a CZ for a specified time that's Open/PvP only could work.
CQC could also be buffed so players join powers - I know it's not the same as organic PvP - but here you could limit people to stock Eagles only or similar.
Or even (and you can perhaps tell I am on my 5th coffee) have a CQC where it IS an escort missions where a T9 needs to be escorted by x amount of ships Vs Y amount of attackers. Massively abstracted but probably more possible than trying to do it in game.
You're misunderstanding by thinking my feedback on the topic is connected to if I think it'll happen or not. Regardless of if I think it will happen, my opinion that it should happen wont change. If that bugs you, nothing I can do for you.
This whole Hotel California thread is made as a padded room, so pay no attention to will they figure out or not - this is a place for them to shout Yaarrr.
I mean this is California lite because it's specifically addressing Power Play in terms of mode.
Block, at least the way it's been implemented, is only necessary because FDev has abdicated responsibility for enforcing their own rules.
I'm firmly of the view that if it's legitimate interaction or gameplay, then one should not be able to opt out of it in a multiplayer setting. If it's not legitimate, then it's either cheating, or out-of-character harassment, and the player in question should be promptly and permanently removed from the game. In any case, the rules should be clearly defined and the onus should be on Frontier to police players.
Barring a few naive types, essentially no one thinks their suggestions will be seriously considered, let alone implemented.
I imagine that very few people consider the game to be perfect, and that most of us muse about hypotheticals, without expecting their hopes to be realized.
Its about power play now because PVP crowd realises that currently that is their best bet. If they get that its open only BGS, then open only, then open only without block, them full loot pvp fest. And then game dies.
Slippery slope fallacy is a fallacy for a reason
Just like you are hiding in your own instance ?? It's a valid gameplay and even though you dislike it many others prefer it . BGS and PP could be RNG to many folk . It doesn't affect my gameplay / role that some smelly feds are now in charge of a system . I could be the enemy and still dock and trade or fill up my buckets faster than someone who thinks that blowing up commanders is emergent game play
. Instancing allows say 32 depending on the connection . So 10,000 players in elite would mean 312 opens . Now imagine being number 33 a new instance is brought noone around but by your definition the other 32 are in solo . But to the other 32 the majority you are hiding on solo or PG . You see the problem that's why I even have difficulty in expressing elite as a MMO . I see it more of a could possibility that you may meet some one but that possibility is in the 10% mark if that . So open isn't open it is a fallacy it's a low possibility of maybe instancing with someone .
I've been saying this for years when it comes to open only debate .