warning - griefer in Sag A*

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Technically no crime was committed.
Sag A*is 25000 light years from the nearest Jurisdiction and is classed as an anarchy system.

That someone would go to the effort to fly out there just to shoot people for no gain is entirely another matter of if it was an in game crime or not.

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As above technically not murder

In this case you are sadly correct.
But in a none anarchy system my Ideas for murder are sound.
I would find that more understandable than the pilots fed offers insurance to murderers !
 
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1. however annoyed you may be this isn't a griefer its someone who for whatever reason has turned pirate in Sag A*

Wrong. Piracy is the act of demanding someone hand over goods under the threat of violence. Please tell me any explorer that'd be carrying X tons of cargo out to Sag. A*


2. This sort of play should be encouraged not discouraged the game is about blazing your own trail after all and if they want to kill you in Sag A* then that's an anarchy system..

Seems reasonable, except you're robbing another human player of the time they've spent gathering exploration data - which could amount to millions of credits and hundreds of hours. I say that's particularly unreasonable behaviour and should be discouraged.

3. You knew the risks when you set off for the Core....

There are many risks to setting off for the Core - one of which shouldn't be getting murdered by some human player "just because".

4. It's Called Elite Dangerous not Elite Fluffy.....

Please read : https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=138836&page=4&p=2124765&viewfull=1#post2124765

I made that post especially for people like you.

5. It was only a matter of time before this happened I was talking with other cmdrs about how this would happen soon enough

That's been realised for quite a long time - it was just a question to see which sociopath (not a good thing to be) would be the first.

6. It now becomes a game to remove said pirate from Sag A*

Why do you keep calling it piracy when no piracy was involved, only murder?

7. I've always said its far too easy to go to the core anyway regardless of the fact it takes you 2/3 weeks flying time

You just contradicted your point 3. You don't take into account other player's available time to play the game - which will be different to yours. Getting to the Core is not as easy as you say as there are many difficulties to overcome - one of which is being constantly vigilant whilst playing.
 
I was afraid of something like might happen. I mentioned it on the forums as a weird nightmare I had 2 months back. It was only a matter of time.
Im on my to Saggy A in "Annie-Conda" as soon as I get home from work. If anyone kills this clown shoe before I get there please post.
 
I was afraid of something like might happen. I mentioned it on the forums as a weird nightmare I had 2 months back. It was only a matter of time.
Im on my to Saggy A in "Annie-Conda" as soon as I get home from work. If anyone kills this clown shoe before I get there please post.

I have no chance in fighting off a anaconda but i assure you i will have fun whilst trying. Or just thrust out of range and taunt you...
 
So everyone is off because someone flew off in to the great unknown with no defensive capabilities, with no shields or weapons in open online play and paid the price?

Am I missing something? It's you're own fault dude.

If the guy cheated to get there (though he seems very open in saying he didn't) than that's bull......... but the situation on face value is "Lesson learnt" imo.
 
It is true that Sagittarius A* has no authority governing it at the moment, so no laws to break, and no presence to enforce it.

Yet paradoxically, I feel it should need no enforcement by a single power, as given its currently understood role in the history of the Galaxy, it may well be the most significant single object in the galaxy. It should belong to everybody, a place for everybody to meet together and visit in peace, without permits, without prejudice, without malice.

Perhaps, with more people visiting the system now, it is time for the current human governments everywhere to recognise Sagittarius A* as a system in its own right and grant it Universal Protected Status due to its historical, natural and astronomical value? Specifically, in its role as neutral ground. It can then follow that any such attempts to defile the system with killings of innocent pilots result in a severe penalty: say, a prolonged Wanted period across ALL civilised human space?

Any thoughts? Something worthy of an official in-game petition?
 
It is true that Sagittarius A* has no authority governing it at the moment, so no laws to break, and no presence to enforce it.

Yet paradoxically, I feel it should need no enforcement by a single power, as given its currently understood role in the history of the Galaxy, it may well be the most significant single object in the galaxy. It should belong to everybody, a place for everybody to meet together and visit in peace, without permits, without prejudice, without malice.

Perhaps, with more people visiting the system now, it is time for the current human governments everywhere to recognise Sagittarius A* as a system in its own right and grant it Universal Protected Status due to its historical, natural and astronomical value? Specifically, in its role as neutral ground. It can then follow that any such attempts to defile the system with killings of innocent pilots result in a severe penalty: say, a prolonged Wanted period across ALL civilised human space?

Any thoughts? Something worthy of an official in-game petition?

Should be a science station there or something - with a security force. If its reachable in 13 hours then its feasible to have a station there.
 
Perhaps, with more people visiting the system now, it is time for the current human governments everywhere to recognise Sagittarius A* as a system in its own right and grant it Universal Protected Status due to its historical, natural and astronomical value? Specifically, in its role as neutral ground. It can then follow that any such attempts to defile the system with killings of innocent pilots result in a severe penalty: say, a prolonged Wanted period across ALL civilised human space?

Any thoughts? Something worthy of an official in-game petition?

Sounds good. The only other alternative I can think of is permit locking it to Elite explorers only
 
I too fly a A-spec CobraMkIII, with a rack of beam lasers, shields and mirrored surface composite alloy. It was for pure RP reasons and was quite happy to sacrifice the jump range and now quite happy I did.

I thought you also hod a torpedo rack for a "special probe"?
 
Are you Cmdr Rhodendron by any chance?

Yes, I thought that it seemed rather obvious who i was. If you look on page 6 you will see a screenshot of my right control panel in-ship displaying my CMDR name and current balance. If i die i will be at no loss regarding money and as i have already made it clear i wish to get back home to civilastion
 
Yes, I thought that it seemed rather obvious who i was. If you look on page 6 you will see a screenshot of my right control panel in-ship displaying my CMDR name and current balance. If i die i will be at no loss regarding money and as i have already made it clear i wish to get back home to civilastion

....so, much as it galls us.... don't kill him and make him chose between the long, boring flight home, and the nice easy self destruct button.... ;)
 
Sounds good. The only other alternative I can think of is permit locking it to Elite explorers only

I disagree with permit locking on the basis of rank or status, though. It would not be fair on people wanting to see it for themselves. I wouldn't mind having visitors' permits that can be bought nearby and rescinded for any transgression of the laws as part of the punishment.

I like to think of the system as being like a nature reserve in that respect: behave, and you will be welcomed; but break the country code and prepare to be shunned into submission.
 
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