News Elite: Dangerous Steam Keys
- Thread starter Edward Lewis
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Depends if there is any tech staff in at this time of night or whether it is indeed FD and not the connection to Steam somehow.
Check again in the morning?
For those saying that Valve taking a cut makes no sense...
Valve takes cuts of DLC sales on any game activated on their service as part of their terms of service. This is well known. They had a huge tussle with EA over it. Google it.
Think of it like this: What is to stop me from selling a game on Steam for $1, or a free demo, and then selling the $40 DLC on my web site that enables key features just to sidestep the royalty? Valve's ToS, that's what.
In those terms it makes perfect sense for Valve to take a cut on any future DLC purchases linked to the steam account, regardless of where the DLC was purchased.
Valve takes cuts of DLC sales on any game activated on their service as part of their terms of service. This is well known. They had a huge tussle with EA over it. Google it.
Think of it like this: What is to stop me from selling a game on Steam for $1, or a free demo, and then selling the $40 DLC on my web site that enables key features just to sidestep the royalty? Valve's ToS, that's what.
In those terms it makes perfect sense for Valve to take a cut on any future DLC purchases linked to the steam account, regardless of where the DLC was purchased.
Same here, Just wait it out would have been taken down for a good reason
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I agree but I bought the game before released on steam. Once it was released and we hadn't heard anything for awhile I decided to buy the steam version then 2 days later they said everyone will get a steam key. So my question is since I paid twice for one account would frontier either refund which I know is a long shot and understand if they don't or let people create a second account that bought it twice for the one account. I hope how I explained it makes sense. If not it doesn't change anything I love the game but feel kinda burned by the steam thing. Especially since I paid twice but I did choose to pay twice so I guess can't be to upset
@Jim
It's a big thread, no?
I've looked up everything I've seen Ed say on the subject, which seems to be just the initial post. As far as a search pulled up for me. This is what he said:"This won't affect how much you pay for the game or for paint jobs, but sticking with the EliteDangerous.com store remains the best way to support ongoing development with 100 percent of your money on future purchases. We especially appreciate it when you buy direct from us, but we're happy for you to play how and where you like. Just enjoy the game, and fly safe Commanders!"
So, if you buy through the store, you're fine. No where does he say that a part of proceeds go to Steam. In fact, all he is doing is saying that if you want to support ED directly, buy through the store.
I'll admit, it is a bit confusing, and could have been more clearly stated, but I suspect Frontier isn't entirely wild about so many people having the option to purchase through Steam. I wish they'd be a bit more understanding about how profitable this is going to be for them in the long run, providing such an ease of service and purchase for so many people, instead of, perhap unintentionally, dissuading the current player base from following through... but [shrugs].
Frontier just needs to understand that people are going to be buying. Anyway you facilitate that is great. And they need to make it clear, from their own mouths, how this functions, because there are a LOT of passionate people wanting to do their best to help out Frontier.
I'm just not crazy about the confusion people are having, and the inconvenience, or personal wants and desires they may be putting aside, because of a misconception.
You are still supporting Frontier if you get your Steam key. Buy through the store if you want to help them directly. Ed said as much.
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And where is this little factoid written? 30% seems excessive.
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almostpilot
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Finally, I have more interest in my steam key than in the powerplay.
@Jim
It's a big thread, no?
"This won't affect how much you pay for the game or for paint jobs, but sticking with the EliteDangerous.com store remains the best way to support ongoing development with 100 percent of your money on future purchases. We especially appreciate it when you buy direct from us, but we're happy for you to play how and where you like. Just enjoy the game, and fly safe Commanders!"
So, if you buy through the store, you're fine. No where does he say that a part of proceeds go to Steam. In fact, all he is doing is saying that if you want to support ED directly, buy through the store.
I'll admit, it is a bit confusing, and could have been more clearly stated, but I suspect Frontier isn't entirely wild about so many people having the option to purchase through Steam. I wish they'd be a bit more understanding about how profitable this is going to be for them in the long run, providing such an ease of service and purchase for so many people, instead of, perhap unintentionally, dissuading the current player base from following through... but [shrugs].
Frontier just needs to understand that people are going to be buying. Anyway you facilitate that is great. And they need to make it clear, from their own mouths, how this functions, because there are a LOT of passionate people wanting to do their best to help out Frontier.
I'm just not crazy about the confusion people are having, and the inconvenience, or personal wants and desires they may be putting aside, because of a misconception.
You are still supporting Frontier if you get your Steam key. Buy through the store if you want to help them directly. Ed said as much.
I believe that you are wrong.
I think Steam's ToS, forbids developers from selling DLC without giving Valve a cut. I think that is why some EA games were pulled from the Steam store, years ago.
It is stated in the very part that you quoted, that if you purchase through FDev store 100 percent pf the proceeds go to FDev. The obvious implication here, is the opposite. That being if the game is purchased through Steam (or anything after you'd linked your profiles), some other part (less than 100%) of the whole, proceeds go to FDev, presumably the rest goes to Valve or Captain America.
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It was my understanding that the EA case related to buying DLC in game/redirecting to EA's storefront. There wasn't anything said about if you decided to manually go "over valve's head" as it were, and buy it from their storefront...just that these purchases couldn't be made from in-game.
I've seen multiple Developers (mostly indies, but still) ask people to go buy from their own store page and that they'd give out steam keys later. Unfortunately I didn't make a note of each instance so I can't provide a list for you. Maybe Valve has put a stop to that practice somehow? I don't know exactly the terms of the agreement you have to sign to get a game on steam, so I don't know all the details.
I'm still not 100% convinced. I backed the kickstarter so I definitely want the game to succeed. Either way, steam is only going to increase sales of the game with the extra exposure from people playing, streaming, posting screenshots, reviewing it, etc. I don't see that as a bad thing at all.
I think we're fabricating cons for the developer that they've made no mention of. And EA pulled their games from Steam because they wanted all the monies for themselves via their fantastic and wildly successful Origin Client, which is quickly outpacing Steam because EA knows what customers want.
...ok... I was being a bit sarcastic in that last line.
Ian Phillips
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I have never seen any official statement about how much of a percentage Valve gets for E: D sales on steam. Everyone simply assumes that it is 30% as that is the "usual" figure.
He suggest that as long as you buy through ED store, 100% will go to FDev, regardless if you linked your account or not. I believe that is not the case. Once the account is linked, a portion (presumably 30%), will go to Volvo, even if you buy from the store, because it essentially becomes content for a game that you have on Steam.
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