Unknown Artefact (or artifact) Community Thread - The Canonn

[rizal72]

Thank you for the rep.
And yay finally my post show up right away.
I really hope someone proves me right soon. I am sitting at an outpost listening to it it does sound like the UA. If nothing happens soon I will go crazy.

As there are many different outpost types, can you tell us exactly where are you? Jut to be sure to hear you same sound. Unfortunately I cannot check it myself as I'm on Holidays right now, but I hope someone will check it very soon...

If it is the same sound, it really could be that the UA is transmitting to a human base. First the morse that acknowledges its position, then the purrs and the Howls: the long range transmission. It's an example of course...

 

[Cmdr Lausi]

As there are many different outpost types, can you tell us exactly where are you? Jut to be sure to hear you same sound. Unfortunately I cannot check it myself as I'm on Holidays right now, but I hope someone will check it very soon...

If it is the same sound, it really could be that the UA is transmitting to a human base. First the morse that acknowledges its position, then the purrs and the Howls: the long range transmission. It's an example of course...

It is only CIVILIAN outposts no other type, but as far as I can tell it happens on all civilian outposts.

edit: I am at Palitzsch Port in Sibilja

 

[rizal72]

So this is the thing - I agree a hybrid of either way (alien first, human after; human first, alient after) is plausible - but until we find out its true nature we don't *know* and so can't assume either way and certainly cannot assume it as 'canon'.

I'm not criticising you - just trying to focus the mind, get that 'mental rigour' the community around this thread is (I think) famous for (some say just 'mental' I know!).

The next step must come purely from our observations of the thing as it appears in front of us, and, I think, the one piece of behaviour we have that we know we can influence reliably: the Morse that is emitted. After extensive study, no other behaviour like this has been found. Anomalies, yes, but it's all apparently random.

So I ask the question - what would you do with an object that knows where it is in space, which seems automatically to scan the nearest large mass (since it does stations too) and echo its name - *even when your ship doesn't yet 'know' that name*?

As I've said before - it's being transported by humans, and it's a dangerous thing to transport, so it must have some use. Or is it simply the case that it's value is just that - as an Artefact, and that the 'secret' is only unlocked by allowing the market to be flooded with the things?

Yes, you are right. My use of the word Canon was most to mean: "Put it in our mind very firmly"
I agree with you, as always...

 

[Arcanonn]

There are no sane people left on this thread. Sanity is for the weak.

The quest is sane, FD set us a puzzle that we have yet to solve.

However if we are no longer sane it's because the puzzle is insane...........I still thinks its going to play a rock roll at some point.

 

[Gerrard Adkinson]

Things are moving really fast. I have recently tuned up to this thread and it's so interesting

I wanted to know if you guys have tried bringing it to Sol and more importantly to Earth. Since it detects nearby celestial objects then maybe the key is bringing to a certain object. Perhaps it's meant for Earth and it will unlock once it scans our homeworld.

 

[Derthek]

The galaxy map search function has been broken since the PP release. You likely won't be able to use it to find any system where the sector part has three elements as in "COL 285 Sector". It's been reported as a bug several times.

If you click search, wait 5 seconds, and click search again your galmap will search. It's the only way I know how to bypass the bug

 

[Grumbleweed]

Thank you for the rep.
And yay finally my post show up right away.
I really hope someone proves me right soon. I am sitting at an outpost listening to it it does sound like the UA. If nothing happens soon I will go crazy.

In game now, Möbius, Timocani, bored to tears, happy to change scenery and listen to spooky sounds. Do you mean the pirate ones or can someone point me to how you can tell the outpost type from the system map?

Edit: don't worry Pennington is a civ outpost. I'll grab a recording and stick it up on the tubes.

 

[rizal72]

Things are moving really fast. I have recently tuned up to this thread and it's so interesting

I wanted to know if you guys have tried bringing it to Sol and more importantly to Earth. Since it detects nearby celestial objects then maybe the key is bringing to a certain object. Perhaps it's meant for Earth and it will unlock once it scans our homeworld.

Yes. Check the Wiki.

Btw I'm still waiting for someone to take it near the moon, for that "Claire de Luine" Thing
Does anyone remeber it?

- - - Updated - - -

In game now, Möbius, Timocani, bored to tears, happy to change scenery and listen to spooky sounds. Do you mean the pirate ones or can someone point me to how you can tell the outpost type from the system map?

He said he is in Palitzsch Port in Sibilja

 

[Derthek]

I know people have tried communicating with it over local comms, but has anyone tried echoing back the celestial body name (the "English" name of whatever body name it's transmitting in Morse). A bit like the Close Encounters music sequence.. shows we understand what it's saying.

Yeah! I suggested this earlier this morning, you could text something like
- .... .- .-. --. --- .. -.. ... / .- .-. . / .-.. .- -- .

Into local comms and see what happens.

 

[simulacrae]

In game now, Möbius, Timocani, bored to tears, happy to change scenery and listen to spooky sounds. Do you mean the pirate ones or can someone point me to how you can tell the outpost type from the system map?

I think if i remember right it was "unsanctioned" outposts that made the weird noises ...

 

[Cmdr Lausi]

In game now, Möbius, Timocani, bored to tears, happy to change scenery and listen to spooky sounds. Do you mean the pirate ones or can someone point me to how you can tell the outpost type from the system map?

As far as I can tell any CIVILIAN outpost will do it doesnt matter if unsanctioned or not. I can confirm that unsactioned civilian outpost make the sound as I am at one at the moment and hearing it. Going to find another civilian type to confirm for those too.
(I remember being at differnt ones yesterday and hearing the sound at every civilian one, sadly I forgot to write them down so I cant be a 100% sure)

edit: could someone tell me if there is a way to tell what kind an outpost is without flying to it? That would speed things up because at the moment I just fly around to every system that has an outpost and then to the outpost to see if it is civilian.

edit 2: found a normal civilian outpost. It makes the sound too: Miller Dock in Blido Piru

 

[Allitnil]

If you click search, wait 5 seconds, and click search again your galmap will search. It's the only way I know how to bypass the bug

Different bug.

 

[Atinus]

Okay, riddle me this.

Based on what we can observe:

1) The artefact decays in space rapidly.

2) The artefact can only be found by navy convoys carrying it.

3) No ship in the game can carry it without their systems failing.

So, where is the navy finding the artefacts? It can't be in open space, since it decays too rapidly. It must originally have been "on-board" something else. And not a normal ship. Not even a Capital Ship could carry it if that's indeed what brought down Halsey's ship.

Alien ships, perhaps? Federal navy shoots down a Thargoid, and out pops one of these things.

And then there is Kerrash's June 27 joke that a human-Thargoid war might start if somebody stumbled on a Thargoid and "You do a cargo scan and [inaudible] they're full of unknown artefacts" and so the human pilot shoots and suddenly we're at war with Thargoids at about 12:20 of this video clip:

[video=youtube;4RD6rmO_28s]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RD6rmO_28s[/video]

So maybe it's an alien version of a cargo container?

 

[who?]

Yeah! I suggested this earlier this morning, you could text something like
- .... .- .-. --. --- .. -.. ... / .- .-. . / .-.. .- -- .

Into local comms and see what happens.

Haha. If the Thargoids come and aren't friendly, we'll know whose fault it is.

Yup, the only difficulty with repeating it in Morse, is how you represent it. Hyphens or underscores for inter-character spaces? And how do you represent word-breaks? I like the idea of the "English" name simply because it shows some understanding on our part, rather than just repeating the Morse signal back, but at this stage all tests are good, up to and including poking it with a stick.

 

[LordZoltan]

Things are moving really fast. I have recently tuned up to this thread and it's so interesting

I wanted to know if you guys have tried bringing it to Sol and more importantly to Earth. Since it detects nearby celestial objects then maybe the key is bringing to a certain object. Perhaps it's meant for Earth and it will unlock once it scans our homeworld.

Hi there, and welcome! I believe it has been taken to Earth, possibly by CMDR Branch (apologies if it was somebody else) and unfortunately nothing special happened.

For the record, though, I have a strong suspicion about the 'bring it to a certain object' angle. The problem with this idea, though, is *which* object. There are quite a few to choose from

However, it's being taken on more and more sightseeing journeys right now, with the video evidence being poured over by many people here.

We do know (well, it's been suggested to us by Kerrash - so the validity of that 'evidence' depends on your level of trust in him) that there are hints in Galnet - and that, moreso, we've previously discounted the valid clue(s) that is/are there.

It's this uncertainty that's prompted my last couple of posts. We're lost in a sea of multiplicity right now (although we'll hopefully be able to discount/prove the plague link and selling it ideas soon enough) and while that doesn't prevent us from success, I think it dramatically reduces our chances.

I do think the Starship One angle is a possibility - the CG when it disappeared was after 'gravitational anomalies', and it seems to me that the UA is almost purpose built to find and identify large masses. But, in a cruel twist of this human fiction of a universe - we don't even know if we can trust the premise of the CG in the first place! Indeed - there is an FD Galnet telling us to stop being 'sheeple' and that 'we are being lied to'. It's all very Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy.

 

[simulacrae]

Okay, riddle me this.

Based on what we can observe:

1) The artefact decays in space rapidly.

2) The artefact can only be found by navy convoys carrying it.

So, where is the navy finding the artefacts?

yep - maybe - yep .... what i have been hoping... is that the UA and the Plague and or the Halsey disappearance are all tied to some other Unknown ....

 

[daygobah]

Okay, so at the risk of drawing us in a full circle. @knowles2 is right - it's supposed to be pretty obvious, and I'm pretty sure we're all intelligent folks (not sure about Kerrash tho, right ) - so what is the simplest explanation?

The facts are on the wiki, of course but in terms of behaviour - it:

- Makes an alien/insectoid sound
- Taps out (or rather gurgles out), in Morse, the name of the local body or system, depending on proximity to the nearest body.
- Expires in line with all other dropped cargo, except it does have a unique animation for this (and sound)
- Does corrosive damage to the carrier's ship
- Can only be found being transported in human convoys
- The pilots in the convoy don't know what it is
- ...and don't appear to have been well-prepared for carrying it
-...and the places where these convoys are found doesn't seem to centre on any one particular area (does everyone agree with this?)
- Looks like it contains 'something' or a lot of 'something's
- Is surrounded by fairy-like sparks that move a bit like flies when viewed from a certain distance
- Causes visual distortion when viewed from a certain distance, specifically, it blurs the objects that are behind the UA from the observer's POV

So, again - ignoring all the tests that have been tried, all the theories that have been put forward. Based on this information alone, what *is* it? Most logical answers please - and let's see if we can't come up with next steps from that. If you'd humour a tired 'scientist'

Witch Space Nav Beacon/probe (It scans the system records and plays that back, then it flashes into witchspace)

 

[Derthek]

Haha. If the Thargoids come and aren't friendly, we'll know whose fault it is.

Begone thargoids, or i shall taunt you a second time.

 

[LordZoltan]

Okay, riddle me this.

Based on what we can observe:

1) The artefact decays in space rapidly.

2) The artefact can only be found by navy convoys carrying it.

3) No ship in the game can carry it without their systems failing.

So, where is the navy finding the artefacts? It can't be in open space, since it decays too rapidly. It must originally have been "on-board" something else. And not a normal ship. Not even a Capital Ship could carry it if that's indeed what brought down Halsey's ship.

Alien ships, perhaps? Federal navy shoots down a Thargoid, and out pops one of these things.

And then there is Kerrash's June 27 joke that a human-Thargoid war might start if somebody stumbled on a Thargoid and "You do a cargo scan and [inaudible] they're full of unknown artefacts" and so the human pilot shoots and suddenly we're at war with Thargoids at about 12:20 of this video clip:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RD6rmO_28s

So maybe it's an alien version of a cargo container?

Yeah - all points I agree with: where are the convoys getting them (via a third party, but where do *they* get them!?)

An escape pod makes sense, but a Thargoid ship wouldn't be carrying full escape pods as cargo would it - which kinda contradicts what Kerrash says there. Unless they're terraforming 'seeds' or something like that; that could conceivably be Thargoid 'cargo'.

 

[Cmdr Lausi]

Ok got a normal (sanctioned if you want) civilian outpost. It makes the sound too.
It is: Miller Dock in Blido Piru