There are a lot of planets that were in Elite or FE2 or FFE that are not in ED - I don't think there is a complete list of these "missing" systems anywhere, they only have x and y coordinates anyways, and I am sure they are not all "dark systems". Dark systems were originally planned but never implemented (at least at launch). And if they did exist, as we do not know their coordinates, we can't find them or jump to them. How would you scan for one? From an adjacent system based on the x and y coordinates if we knew them? How would it be discovered?
When I used the term "missing systems" above, I meant a known-obvious-formerly-associated-with-aliens-in-the-lore system, like Polaris or Soontill or the like, that is actually already on the map, but we have somehow missed the possible association between it and the UA, or need to do the more in-depth sort of scanning that Zoltan describes. If there are none of these, that leaves us with the usual suspects - Polaris, Soontill, Quy/Quiness, Merlin, Peregrina, and maybe a few others if we start including known ammonia-atmosphere worlds.
Perhaps we are looking for "dark worlds", not "dark systems" also - i.e. a hidden planet or hidden celestial body in a known system.
Edit: And of course it is possible that we have missed one of these known-obvious-formerly-associated-with-aliens-in-the-lore systems with our UA tests, which was my other reference to missing a system. Known Unknowns and Unknown Unknowns and all that.
Edit 2: Soontill was originally intended to be a dark system, hidden also by the name Kumbaya also IIRC in Out of the Darkness, yet both of these systems were in ED at launch and visible.
I'm still waiting for my Timocani Tinfoil Hat
My vote the future of The Canonn is to get added as minor faction in Timocani, and then convince FD to add a rare good, the Timocani Tinfoil Hat.
The sound recordings are, if I may say, insectoid in nature. Clicking, chirping. It does not sound artificial. Like, I don't want to jump to conclusions but... thargoids are the only insectoid anything in the game.
This! And make the faction 10000x more resistant than any other faction to any PP subversion.My vote the future of The Canonn is to get added as minor faction in Timocani, and then convince FD to add a rare good, the Timocani Tinfoil Hat.
as some one who has seen those massive permit locked areas (see my avatar) i can say that to me (3 years in 3d modeling/ 2 years programming) they seem like nothing more than unrendered parts of the galaxy. they exist in perfect cubes that are 1000ly x 1000ly exactly, and the stars in those systems are all the same (bright white) as if they hadn't been designated a star class.
My theory is that either the Elite dangerous servers couldnt handle the entire galaxy size at the time the initial galaxy was created, or they are saving these zones for future Xpacs. Either way, i can almost certianly say they are 2 things.
1. Unimportant for now
2. incredibly immersion breaking & ugly to see
there are probably about 100 of those massive permit locked cubes out there.
I was out exploring near Azaleach ... I checked out a WSS and there was a wrecked Mk III cobra. While salvaging I found this:
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Had to pry it out of the unfortunate pilots cold hands ...
That's very cool. Did you put it together?
Just a quick question, does the UA corrode systems that are turned off? (life support, power plant, fsd mainly)
Thanks ! Ya started playing with mapping things ... and well ... it got out of hand
Just a thought.. have we considered base 12?
Considered what in base 12 ?Just a thought.. have we considered base 12?
Well, yes we have, mostly thanks to you and the other UA holders, as you guys (with infinite patience for our mad theories I should add) have crossed a bunch of possibilities off the list of theories between you doing all those tests, and provided lots of video and audio for folks who don't have UAs to (over)analyse. So don't listen to the naysayers. Take a read through Zoltan's last few posts a few pages back and see what you think of his dark systems/dark worlds theories. Might be worth trying one or more of them out at Soontill or Peregrina or the like?
As do I - or at least dark masses.
So how would that manifest?
1 - misjump into dark system. Method of triggering? Unknown, but all other attempts by brave CMDRs to do this have failed - so one would expect it simply to happen when carrying a UA. Most of the UAs are very well-travelled and it hasn't happened - so does this rule that idea out? I think so.
2 - New location on map available when UA stowed. Again, the things are well travelled and nobody's noticed anything like that yet... But... One wonders exactly how a CMDR is meant to know where to look on the map! Could be a place that definitely should be in a well-known place (from lore) but isn't, and only shows when you have UA onboard but also, possibly, when you're near the location. Lore-fiends? Any systems we can definitely place, relative to other locations we do have, that are missing?
3 - Picking up a new target in a system while in SC and UA stowed. I.e. the UA unlocks a previously hidden location from an ADS. Or, you have to re-do the ADS with it stowed for it to work. Again, though, we'd need likely systems to try this out.
4 - We come across a planet or other body in a system where it's name is 'unknown' or similar - I.e. where the standard system naming convention doesn't hold. Dropping the UA nearby might yield Morse for a proper name. Again, though - need likely system *and*, more importantly, no such body has been found by anyone ever that we know of.
5 - In some system or other (see above!) there is a substantial mass or other object the UA can identify that we cannot see. My biggest issue with this would be that there's nothing in the UA's behaviour that could read as a distance indicator, only identification - so at best all it could do is tell us there's something there that we can't see.
Have I missed anything? What do you guys think? Favourite ones from this list? Systems that should be visited based on this? Are our UA carriers willing to go on a stomp to a few places based on these ideas?
I've already suggested taking another good look in Soontill. Regardless of anything - it's an important location from lore, and a few of the ideas listed above could be carried out there reasonably easily![]()
Just a quick question, does the UA corrode systems that are turned off? (life support, power plant, fsd mainly)
Just a thought.. have we considered base 12?
It is the only faction where you collect merits for making forum posts.This! And make the faction 10000x more resistant than any other faction to any PP subversion.![]()
Yes ... uploading now sorry it's a big file don't have an editor on this machine. Starts around 15 minutes into the Vid. https://www.dropbox.com/sh/6qsf525u5cc1z8n/AAAjajIzhxbJPeLmFN4kk2Ksa?dl=0